Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie

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As opposed to the left wing ideologues of the Clinton administration?


Left wing, right wing, same bird. 

Forget the wings. Look out for the claws and the droppings.

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Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-11 Thread Jayson R. Jones

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On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:22:57 EST "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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  If this appointment process were carefully scripted it couldn't have
been done more prefectly.  Chavez drws fire and takes the heat off
Ashcroft.  Many think her appointment was intended to do that.  She
backs down and the heat is back on Ashcroft.  Thank God Almighty the
heat is back on
Ashcroft But WAIT.  Everyone is ignoring Rumsfeld.   Aha!  It
worked.
That slippery sucker is going to glide on through.
Samantha

It is a double layered tactic.  Chavez takes the initial heat over
something that is questionable.  A lot of people feel that what she did,
though illegal in a technical sense, was a good thing.  They are
ambivilent about dumping on her for this, ignoring the other things she
stands for that are the real issues, and why we should oppose her
nomination.  Then comes Ashcroft.  We are already set up, via the Chavez
thing, to have some sympathy for him.  I'm pretty confident that he will
also fail.  That really puts everyone in a bipartisan mood, after all we
shot down the first two nominations of George II.  The really nasty
people are subsequently passed in a rush of fellowship.  Corporate
America directly takes over the government instead of just owning the
people in charge.
Jayson

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[CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-10 Thread lloyd

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From: "nick.sandberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?
Date: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:38 PM

Checkout some of the ideas of Bush's proposed new US attorney general, Sen
John Ashcroft.

Anti-abortion and pro-death penalty, Ashcroft last year put together the
highly controversial so-called "Methamphetamine Anti-proliferation act",
("so-called" because it covertly attempted to attack proponents of any
restricted substance, not just meth), last year and has been involved in
much highly suspect proposed legislation in general.

Nick

PS - A commentary on the US Methamphetamine Anti-proliferation Act 1999,
exploring how the US government uses "Trojan Horse" tactics to conceal
ludicrously restrictive legal measures in otherwise fairly reasonable
legislation, is online at www.ibogaine.co.uk/antiprol.htm



Ashcroft Nomination for Attorney General Bodes Ill for Drug
   Policy Reform
   http://www.drcnet.org/wol/166.html#ashcroft

In a decision with important implications for drug policy,
President-elect George W. Bush has nominated Senator John
Ashcroft (R-M)) to be his Attorney General.  Ashcroft, who lost a
November Senate race to the late Gov. Mel Carnahan, is also a
former Missouri governor and attorney general.  He is also a
self-described Christian conservative who neither smokes, drinks,
nor dances, and has a long record as staunch drug warrior.

An anti-abortion, pro-death penalty ideologue, Ashcroft stands to
be a polarizing figure.  His ratings by various advocacy groups
suggest a sharp divide:  He scores 100% with the conservative
Christian Coalition and Phyllis Schafly's Eagle Forum, but gets a
big fat goose egg from liberal groups such as the National
Organization for Women and the League of Conservation voters.
The Leadership Conference for Civil Rights gave Ashcroft a 10%
rating.

Civil rights, civil liberties, and women's groups are already
gearing up to challenge the nomination in the Senate, and drug
policy activists are busily plotting whether and how to help,
though the conventional wisdom is that Ashcroft will be seated as
the next Attorney General.

Ashcroft introduced the Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act to
increase penalties for manufacturing or trafficking that drug,
and some of his comments on that occasion give insight into both
Ashcroft's thinking and why drug reformers are worried about it:

"... But there is another factor that motivates my opposition to
meth:  I want to fight meth because its use and production is
wrong.  And too few people are willing to stand up these days and
call drugs wrong... much of our current predicament stems from
the permissive attitudes that emerged from the 1960s.  The decay
of enforcement that began in the 1960s helped to cause the
problems of the succeeding decades... Laws are what protects
society from anarchy.  And when we choose not to enforce our
laws, our laws lose their effectiveness, and the bulwark against
anarchy withers."

The Meth Act was just Ashcroft's main attraction this year.
Outside the spotlight, he was busy preparing legislation crafted
to ensure that no one escapes the drug war dragnet and to punish
and punish again those who get caught.  For instance:

S. 587:  A bill to provide for the mandatory suspension of
federal benefits to convicted drug traffickers.

S. 2008:  A bill to require the pre-release drug testing of
federal prisoners.  (This masterpiece of vindictiveness demands
that prisoners be tested prior to release and, if their tests are
dirty, that the information be turned over to local prosecutors
for possible new charges of violating drug or prison contraband
laws.)

S. 2517:  A bill to amend the Individuals with Disabilities
Education Act and the Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 to allow
school personnel to apply appropriate discipline measures to all
students in cases involving weapons, illegal drugs, and assaults
upon teachers.  (Just because a kid is crippled doesn't mean we
shouldn't be able to get him on drug charges.)

Ashcroft has been riding the meth menace for some time, and has
bragged on his campaign web site and on the Senate floor about
such victories as the "one strike and you're out" policy for
methamphetamine violators living in public housing, securing the
death penalty for some methamphetamine offenses, and securing
High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA) status for his
state.

But his concerns with drug policy extend far beyond the borders
of the Show-Me state.  In 1998, he co-authored measures
preventing Washington, DC's needle exchange program from
obtaining local funding.  In fact, he went further than that.  He
even attempted to block studies of 

Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-10 Thread Carl Amedio

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As opposed to the left wing ideologues of the Clinton administration?  Get a
Life.

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Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-10 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/10/01 10:15:25 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Checkout some of the ideas of Bush's proposed new US attorney general, Sen
  John Ashcroft.

  If this appointment process were carefully scripted it couldn't have been
done more prefectly.  Chavez drws fire and takes the heat off Ashcroft.  Many
think her appointment was intended to do that.  She backs down and the heat
is back on Ashcroft.  Thank God Almighty the heat is back on Ashcroft
But WAIT.  Everyone is ignoring Rumsfeld. Aha!  It worked.  That
slippery sucker is going to glide on through.

Samantha

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