Re: [CTRL] A Disease that Causes Abortion and China Connection

2001-05-15 Thread Aleisha Saba

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The one article showed horses getting disease like HIV and AIDSnote
vets are warned about needle sharing?

Note:  Estrogen, etc. made from horse serum?

Organized crime has destroyed the Kentucky Derby - once it was a sign of
the old South - elegance and racing for love of it.Meyer Lansky in
70 period was bein hauled into court something to do with horses, and
when organized crime enters the picture it turns dirty.

Dead horses and dead golfers  is thre a difference?  Keep thinking of
Payne Stewart who took that Ryder Cup - and then his last plane trip - 4
dead men crossing the country while Clinton schemed maybe to shoot down
the plane??

All sports now corrupted - even the gentleman's game, of golf.

Saba

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[CTRL] A Disease that Causes Abortion and China Connection

2001-05-14 Thread Amelia

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Let's hope this is NOT what is happening in Kentucky for then we
could have all the horses destroyed as with cows in Europe!

 I have checked my immediate vicinity and there is nothing like this
happening here although this is a different type of horse.  These
are show horses, Tennessee Walkers, Quarter horses and such for
show, competition and some just for riding.  There are no racing
horses in the area.  This could be some sort of attack on racing
horses only because of the betting, etc.  Some mafia connection or
scheme to rig racing?  Although some of the local horses are quite
valuable, too, none have reported ANY lost foals.  In fact, the
foals are superfine and plentiful, two superior Walkers selling for
high prices but they would not tell me how much. :-  Hinted and
finally asked outright and they declined to reveal.

Breeders in this area are paranoid, myself included with the dogs.
NO ONE allowed around animals unless personally known.  These horse
people know me and that I do not have horses myself, etc.  Had a
friend have parvo deliberately introduced into her kennel (she
proved it in court) and lost 40+ dogs as vaccines are not always
reliable and there was a new strain (154, I believe) around then.

It is a sick world in which we live and all animals will have to be
kept from the public and all sorts of precautions taken to prevent
this form of bioterrorism. I do not allow people to handle the
parents when looking at puppies, etc.  Look through a fence but NOT
touch.  I know this is sort of cold but better safe than sorry. What
next?  Security guards at dairies?  Masks and gowns required?  Maybe
not a bad idea.
~Amelia~

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Re: [CTRL] A Disease that Causes Abortion and China Connection

2001-05-14 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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I'm betting on some interesting additive in the feed.  Or perhaps the lack of some 
vital element.  Remember the mink farmer and the cattle in Wisconsin.  Nothing like 
better whatever through chemistry.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] A Disease that Causes Abortion and China Connection

2001-05-14 Thread Amelia

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{{It could very well be that or maybe something new to make them run
faster since these are all race horses and the Tennessee Walkers,
etc. here are fine.
~Amelia~}}

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I'm betting on some interesting additive in the feed.  Or perhaps
the lack of some vital element.  Remember the mink farmer and the
cattle in Wisconsin.  Nothing like better whatever through
chemistry.  Prudy

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[CTRL] A Disease that Causes Abortion and China Connection

2001-05-12 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Ran across this item Amelia under Chinese vaccinesmade me wonder for
read between lines maybe a vaccine caused loss of foals who aborted?

So they slaughtered a lot of cattle; however this Chinese company making
abortion pill alsd other products which were tanted.   This item
mentioned horses aborting and also tests that run positive when negative
and negative when positive for this one.also reference to hoof and
mouth.


The E.I.A. Scare
The EIA Scare
by Gillian Smith, Saskatchewan Horse Federation

Lately, there are few words in any horseman's vocabulary that invoke the
passionate response of the initials E.I.A.
Is a positive Coggins test a meaningless death sentence or is it the
only way currently available to control a deadly and contagious disease?

Finding the answer requires setting aside the sensationalism surrounding
Equine Infectious Anemia, and that is not necessarily easy.

The idea of euthanizing perfectly healthy horses is enough to make most
people squirm and the current confusion and ignorance surrounding the
disease only serves to reinforce the notion that
Coggins testing is harmful, not helpful.
The controversy in Western Canada began to escalate last year, following
an eruption of EIA cases and changes in the control regulations set by
Agriculture Canada.

The new rules stipulated that although EIA would remain a reportable
disease and positive horses would be slaughtered or permanently
quarantined, in-contact animals would not be subjected to mandatory
testing. The level of positive tests appeared to increase accordingly,
with a total of 43 horses testing positive in Saskatchewan in 1995, in
contrast with one horse in 1994 and zero in 1993.

Similar increases were reported across the country, with the exception
of Ontario and the Atlantic provinces (where they continued to test
large portions of the horse population).

The change in regulations and the subsequent increase in incidences has
initiated the spread of a rash of misconceptions about the necessity of
testing for EIA and the nature of the disease.

The Disease Explained

Equine Infectious Anemia, or swamp fever, is not a new disease. It was
first found in Manitoba in 1881 and has been diagnosed on every
continent. Leroy Coggins developed the first test for identifying EIA in
1970 and the disease became reportable in 1971. Since the 1970s, despite
a marked increase in the frequency and range of transportation, the
numbers show a decrease in EIA incidence. Ron Rogers of Agriculture
Canada in Ottawa states that, In 1972 we tested 49,114 horses and found
2.9% reactors (1,424 horses)...In 1992, 70,000 horses were tested with
only .09% reactors (63 horses) found.

Equine Infectious Anaemia is a retroviral disease of horses and other
equids that affects the immune system. It is transmitted by blood,
mainly via blood-sucking insects, although also through other means such
as the re-use of needles and breeding. [A virus is a sub-microscopic
agent consisting essentially of a particle of nucleic acid enclosed in a
protein and able to replicate only within a living cell. A retrovirus
contains a type of nucleic acid called RNA (ribonucleic acid) and has
the ability, using a process called reverse transcriptase, to reproduce
itself over and over, spreading throughout the animal's system.]

The symptoms of EIA vary from horse to horse, but can include one or
more of the following: fever and/or sudden temperature fluctuations,
depression, decreased appetite, fatigue or reduced stamina, rapid
breathing, sweating, rapid weight loss, bloodshot eyes with watery
discharge, swelling of legs, lower chest and abdomen, haemorrhages,
weakness characterized by wobbly or rolling gait, pale or yellowish
mucous membranes, irregular heartbeat and/or weak pulse, colic and
abortion in pregnant mares.

EIA generally has three forms:

Acute, during which the virus is active, multiplying and harming the
immune system and other bodily systems.
Chronic, during which the horse may cycle between remission and
infection.

The animal may be thin or in poor body condition and may suffer from
recurring bouts of clinical signs, as seen in the acute phase.

Inapparent Carrier/Asymptomatic horses can carry the virus but show no
apparent symptoms. Although they may never become acute, stress or other
diseases can bring on acute symptoms.

The Coggins Test

The Coggins test, also known as the agar-gel immunodiffusion (AGID)
test, was developed by Dr. Leroy Coggins in 1970 and is the most
commonly used and accurate method of detecting EIA. The test is
consistently reliable and can only be analyzed by accredited
laboratories.

Positive tests are redone several times, both at the accredited lab and
at the Federal lab. According to Dr. Shelagh Copeland of the Provincial
Veterinary  Dairy Diagnostic Laboratory, When a formal positive result
on a horse is finally released, the owner can be quite confident the
horse tested truly and has antibodies to the