Re: [CTRL] A REAL conspiracy-For-profit health insurance.
-Caveat Lector- The US also has a socialist medical system. It has just failed in different ways than the Cuban system. Explain please how the Cuban health care system has failed. It looks to me like the best system on earth, so far, an overwhelming success. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Howard R. Davis III wrote: -Caveat Lector- -- From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Babies die, mothers arrested U.S. health care and 'criminal negligence' By Deirdre Griswold New York The corporate media here say repeatedly that socialism has "failed" and that Cuba is repressive. But Tabitha Walrond and Tatiana Cheeks lost their babies and their freedom in New York, not Havana. It's the profit system that has failed by creating a glittering high-tech world that is completely out of reach for an ever-growing part of the population. Howard Davis wrote: The US also has a socialist medical system. It has just failed in different ways than the Cuban system. Neither is free market. Howard Davis This is news to me. A socialist system? Living close to the Canadian border, I can pick up the Winnipeg talk shows on a regular basis. Three weeks ago, one of the topics of discussion was the fact that many Americans are coming north to Canada to buy prescription drugs. In Canada the very same drug will cost on the average SIXTY PERCENT LESS what it costs in the US because of the American pharmaceutical manufacturers' control of the American market. Also, there's a thriving insurance industry in Canada selling medical insurance to Canadians who plan on visiting the US. They have to take out policies because if they get into an accident here without insurance, they can expect to pay a good percentage of their savings to the doctors and hospital. We have a socialist medical system? uhnot quite. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A REAL conspiracy-For-profit health insurance.
-Caveat Lector- Babies die, mothers arrested U.S. health care and 'criminal negligence' By Deirdre Griswold New York The case of Tabitha Walrond, who is to be sentenced for "criminally negligent homicide" in the death of her infant son Tyler, brings into sharp focus the criminal negligence built into the U.S. health-care system. Tyler died after he and his 19-year-old mother were turned away from a New York clinic when she couldn't produce his Medicaid card. It arrived in the mail weeks after his death. He died because his mother, on the advice of doctors, had tried to breast-feed him but wasn't able to produce the necessary milk and never had a chance to find out what was wrong. Walrond's case has many similarities to that of Tatiana Cheeks, who was arrested in 1998 after her five-week-old daughter died of starvation. She also had been unable to successfully breast-feed the infant and had been turned away from a Brooklyn clinic because she had neither a Medicaid card nor the $25 required for a checkup for her baby. For most babies, breast milk is the best source of nourishment and in addition provides temporary immunity to diseases. In both cases, New York State's policy on paper is that a baby is covered for the first year of its life by its mother's Medicaid card. But the facilities supposed to serve the poor obviously violate this policy. Tabitha Walrond has been treated as a criminal to cover up the criminality of the profit system that has made access to health care unavailable for tens of millions of people in this wealthy country. If you're poor and depend on Medicaid, you have to fight for health care. You have to find out from others like yourself how to get past the red tape, how to deal with all the problems and errors that crop up to knock you out of the system. You're on your own against a bureaucracy that is rewarded for getting rid of you. If you're a person of color, like both Walrond and Cheeks, you can also face racist hostility. There are about 32 million people on Medicaid. Some 48 million more--and it's a growing number--have no medical coverage at all. Some have been cut from welfare and, with it, health coverage. Others are workers who can't get jobs with benefits because of several decades of reactionary restructuring of industry and union busting. But the health-care crisis also extends to workers who can't afford the high premiums now demanded for many medical insurance plans; seniors who are only partially covered by Medicare; and everyone who can't afford the expensive new medications prescribed by many doctors. What can be done about the health-care disaster? Has medical care just become too expensive? Is it impossible to have quality health care for all? Anyone who thinks that way should study the Cuban health-care system. If they truly care about the way all people are treated--and not just the elite few who can afford to buy the best coverage--they will be astounded by Cuba's success. One objective measure of this success is Cuba's infant mortality rate--7.1 per thousand live births, and still dropping. The world average is 59. Another measure is the ratio of doctors per inhabitant. Cuba's is the best in the world. It has 64,000 doctors, or one for every 170 people. For a developing country, this is an excellent achievement. For a country that has been blockaded for 40 years, it is phenomenal. Cuba has achieved this with a system that puts a doctor in every neighborhood and workplace. They call it an "integral community health program." Some 30,000 of Cuba's doctors work in community health clinics that put the emphasis on prevention. Everyone in Cuba has a personal physician through this system. The health workers live in the communities they serve. They don't wait for a sick person to come see them. They follow up and make sure that newborns get their shots, seniors receive proper care, everyone gets regular checkups. Cuban doctors--2,500 of them--are also helping 50 Third World countries. Eighteen Cuban medical brigades are currently in Guatemala, where they have treated 200,000 people affected by Hurricane Mitch. The numbers of Cuban doctors working in Haiti--400--and of Haitian students enrolled in medicine school in Cuba--123--are both about to be doubled. The corporate media here say repeatedly that socialism has "failed" and that Cuba is repressive. But Tabitha Walrond and Tatiana Cheeks lost their babies and their freedom in New York, not Havana. It's the profit system that has failed by creating a glittering high-tech world that is completely out of reach for an ever-growing part of the population. - END - DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor
Re: [CTRL] A REAL conspiracy-For-profit health insurance.
-Caveat Lector- -- From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Babies die, mothers arrested U.S. health care and 'criminal negligence' By Deirdre Griswold New York The corporate media here say repeatedly that socialism has "failed" and that Cuba is repressive. But Tabitha Walrond and Tatiana Cheeks lost their babies and their freedom in New York, not Havana. It's the profit system that has failed by creating a glittering high-tech world that is completely out of reach for an ever-growing part of the population. The US also has a socialist medical system. It has just failed in different ways than the Cuban system. Neither is free market. Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om