[CTRL] ACLU website

1999-02-03 Thread Teo One Thousand

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For those who do not belong to the ACLU or are unfamiliar with their website
or what they do let me urge you to visit their website.  There you can sign up
to become a member of the organization, get on their e-mail alert list and do
other things.  The best feature of their website is a free fax service that
will send a fax and e-mail to your representative and senator on issues of
importance.  I have just sent some messages opposing mandatory filtering
software on library computers and on asset forfeiture.  It is free and you
don't have to be a member, check it out.
http://www.aclu.org/index.html

Teo1000

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[CTRL] ACLU website

1999-02-03 Thread J FROST

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***.

One writes:

For those who do not belong to the ACLU or are unfamiliar with their
website
or what they do let me urge you to visit their website.  There you can
sign up
to become a member of the organization, get on their e-mail alert list
and do
other things.
  ***

I can't go to any website but ask your aclu buddies This
  ***
Here in Ohio when we has a prison riot, you should
have seen the govoner IN HIS OFFICE, IN OFFICIAL
CAPACITY PARYING AND USING GOD !

Just as the senate began to start the impeachment
hoax, IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY ... IN A PUBLIC
BUILDING, how they prayed to God and used the bible
to lay their hand on.

The next time you see the aclu going after some school for the use of
religion,
send them this post and ask the aclu why they have not filed law suits
against
politicians who integrate religion in the white house.
=

Politicians
Like clinton, they will carry their bibles in front of the cameras to get
support of Christians sunday morning and set on their desk with their
bibles while they are getting oral sex on the same Sunday night.
  ***
 God / Prayer / Scriptures on government property?

If school teachers or kids dare speak anything about God, the
bible or prayer .. if they dare quote the bible or even sing a
christmas song ...
THE ACLU WILL SLAP A LAW SUITE ON THEIR ASS!

But how is it John Glenn can quote the scriptures in official
capacity on the space shuttle?
   ***

How is it that Clinton can sit in the oval office and talk about
God and payer?
   ***

How is it that Clinton can use thousands of tax dollars to go to
a black church just before an election to campaign for his
politician buddies in a church?

You can't talk about God or prayer in school or on public
property? Then where in the hell is the aclu when it comes to
what goes on in the white house ... when it comes to politicians
integrating religion into the government?
   ***

===
Separation between church and state right in the United States Congress

The words of PUBLIC OFFICIALS on PUBLIC PROPERTY
in THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY ... !
===

[ APPLAUSE ] AND I PRAY, WITH ALL MY HEART, THAT HE WILL
RECONSIDER THIS DECISION.

AMONG OTHER THINGS, HE TOOK AN OATH TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE
WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

AND I PRAY THAT THE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS IN THIS CONGRESS
WILL FIND COMMON GROUND AND DO THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE OF THIS
GREAT AND PROSPEROUS LAND DURING THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

BUT EVEN AS MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ACROSS OUR COUNTRY ARE
HOPING FOR A QUICK END TO THIS CONFLICT, EVEN AS WE ARE PRAYING FOR
THE SAFETY OF OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS, MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES
ARE OBSESSED WITH A DIFFERENT TARGET.

BUT SOMETHING IS GOING ON REPEATEDLY THAT HAS TO BE STOPPED AND
THAT IS A CONFUSION BETWEEN PRIVATE ACTS OF INFIDELITY AND PUBLIC
ACTS, WHEREAS A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
AND ASK GOD TO WITNESS TO THE TRUTH OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

DESPITE HIS IMPEACHMENT YESTERDAY, THE PRESIDENT IS DETERMINED TO
PRESS ON, IGNORING A HECKLER WHO WAITED AT THE CHURCH DOOR TO TELL
THE PRESIDENT, "YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE PRESIDENCY.

DURING JOHN ADAMS' SECOND NIGHT IN THE WHITE HOUSE, HE WROTE THESE
WORDS: "I PRAY HEAVEN TO BESTOW THE BEST OF BLESSINGS THIS HOUSE
AND ALL THAT SHALL HERE AFTER INHABIT IT.

FOR IT IS WRITTEN, MR. SPEAKER, JUDGE NOT AND YE SHALL NOT BE
JUDGED.

GOD BLESS AMERICA.

GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

GOD HELP AMERICA!

GOD HELP OUR COUNTRY!

GOD HELP THE PEOPLE WHOSE STATESMEN WALK YOUR ROAD.

GOD HELP THE PEOPLE WHOSE STATESMEN WALK YOUR ROAD.

HE CARRIES A BIBLE WITH HIM ALL THE TIME.

HE TOLD US HE HAD BEEN IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH THE PRESIDENT THEY
PRAYED TOGETHER.

I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE NEWSCAST ANYWHERE IN IT OR STARTED WITH IT
THAT SHOWS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SHOWING CONTRITION
AND SAYS, I HAVE SINNED, AND I ASK GOD'S FORGIVENESS.

I PRAY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE
RIGHT THING IN THE DAYS AND WEEKS AND MONTHS TO COME.

I PRAY TODAY THAT YOU WILL OPEN UP THIS PEOPLE'S HOUSE AND LET
THE PEOPLE'S VOICE COME IN AND LET FAIRNESS REIGN!

I THINK OF CHARACTER IN ONE OF TOLSTOY'S NOVELS, HE ASKED GOD IF
HE COULDN'T BE USEFUL IN WIPING SOME THING UP OR FILLING A HOLE OR
BEING A BAD EXAMPLE.

IF IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO SAY I RAISE MY RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR
BY THE ALMIGHTY GOD THE TESTIMONY I'VE I'M ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE
TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, IF IT'S SOLEMN
ENOUGH FOR TH, IT'S SOLEMN ENOUGH TO ENFORCE.

IN GOD'S NAME, DO NOT TEAR APART THIS HOUSE AND THIS NATION WITH
A LO

Re: [CTRL] ACLU website

1999-02-03 Thread Teo One Thousand

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In a message dated 2/3/99 9:10:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< I can't go to any website but ask your aclu buddies This >>

Whoa there fella'!  I am not a member of the ACLU, but am considering
membership.  I am also not going to be drawn into a debate about the merits of
the ACLU's position on a variety of matters because they, like all
organizations, have an agenda to promote.  I would say that they definitely do
display hypocrisy about some issues, but it does not negate the tremendous
good that they do lobbying congress for protection of civil liberties,
preserving privacy rights, and preserving property rights, which are all
suffering under more governmental regulation.  They also do good in filing law
suits against organizations and individuals for violating some aspects of the
constitution.  I would venture to say that the case like you cite are
specifically promoted by their detractors in order to establish the (false)
premise that they are JUST in the business of suing people who pray or mention
God in school (which I'm not against since the Constitution does not prohibit
such).  So, in closing, the ACLU are not "my buddies", and yes, I do believe
they have an agenda, and no, I don't support everything they do, BUT they are
doing some good things and I wanted to give people a resource for research as
well as a tool to effect change in areas that they are concerned about.
So, take it easy would you?
Teo1000

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