Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- On 16 Jun 01, at 19:41, Damian B. Cooper wrote: Even more seriously, let's examine EVERYTHING about liberals, lets expose their vanity, narcissism, and hypocrisy, and let's hold them accountable for their destructiveness and perfidy. It seems some people have been filled by an almost psychotic exuberance since their hero, G. 'Dubya the Dimwit' Bush has won the Presidency with the help of his 'Evil father. Some people will never learn... so sad. Steve ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who or what do you see as the sinster forces loose in the world? LARGE CORPORATIONS. A rhetorical exercise, if you can stomach it; if not, that's OK. Take the Protocols or any other writing of the Jewish conspiracy genre. Delete the word JEW and substitute the words MULTINATIONAL CORPORATION. Delete the word ZION and substitute the words WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION. By doing so, I think a much more realistic picture emerges. And large corporations have no ethnicity or religion, so it is not (yet) hate speech to name them for what they are: predators. I qualify with the words large and multinational because I don't want to include small businesses, Ma Pa places, home-based operations, in my condemnation. And one strategy to combat the conspiracy is to patronize the latter rather than the former. Use the local hardware store down the street rather than drive down to the strip mall to the Home Depot, or Lowes, or Ace, or whatever the big chain is called. The little bit more that you pay will be more than made up in the gas you save, and keeping the dollars in your community. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Tenorlove wrote: who or what do you see as the sinster forces loose in the world? LARGE CORPORATIONS. A rhetorical exercise, if you can stomach it; if not, that's OK. Take the Protocols or any other writing of the Jewish conspiracy genre. Delete the word JEW and substitute the words MULTINATIONAL CORPORATION. Delete the word ZION and substitute the words WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION. By doing so, I think a much more realistic picture emerges. And after that exercise, read That Terrible Strength, by C.S. Lewis, the last book in what is termed The Perlandra Trilogy...it is not necessary to read the first two books (Out of the Silent Planet and Perlandra) to understand That Terrible Strength, although doing so will give the reader a deeper understanding of the underlying philosophy of the book... It is unsettling to realize that Lewis wrote this book in the late 1940s, as it is so 'spot on' in describing present-day society... June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- So, where is this conspiracy's clubhouse? Which organization do they meet under? Of the people you listed what makes them a liberal? And I would count some of those listed as conspirators against our republic, but not as under your scenario. Are there any heroes in your conspiracy scenario? All I see is fear, hatered, envy and ignorance being mouthed by someone that's being lead by their nose. I don't live in a Democracy but a Republic. Long may it stand! MHO Om K Hate to burst your bubble Kris, but you don't live in either. You live in a - representative Plutocracy - where the rich and representatives of the rich control the government. This is not an opinion. This is a precise definition of the political framework of this country. If you doubt it, open a dictionary. The Founding Finaglers invented it as such, and it has been very succesful in operating this way for over two hundred years. Joshua2 In a message dated 6/16/01 7:41:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Led by: Alpha-liberals: smart, narcissistic, amoral For what purpose: P-O-W-E-R The conspirators: Alpha-liberals: smart, narcissistic, amoral. cunning (Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham, Tom Daschle, Dick Gephart, Edgar Bronfman, Morris Dees, George Soros, trial lawyers, union bosses) Beta-liberals: stupid, self-indulgent, emotional, greedy (the underclass, criminals, government workers) The conspiracy: The Alphas simply promise the Betas that in exchange for the Beta's power they (the Alphas) will steal from the productive members of society on behalf of the Beta's and shower the loot on them, while excusing them from any blame by reassuring them that they are only (morally superior) victims. There. Now you know how Democracy works and why it is ultimately doomed to socialist authoritarianism. DBC This is ridiculous drivel. This is on the level of Rush Limbaugh nonsense. It works on the ignorant. No one else takes it seriously. Not even real conservatives. J2 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: -Caveat Lector- So, where is this conspiracy's clubhouse? Which organization do they meet under? I believe their clubhouse is right next door to the treehouse of the White Male Patriarchal Conspiracy. I don't know what organization the Liberals meet under but the white males refer to themselves as the He-Man Women Haters Club - their leader is an Alfalfa male. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/17/01 10:14:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hate to burst your bubble Kris, but you don't live in either. You live in a - representative Plutocracy - where the rich and representatives of the rich control the government. This is not an opinion. This is a precise definition of the political framework of this country. If you doubt it, open a dictionary. The Founding Finaglers invented it as such, and it has been very succesful in operating this way for over two hundred years. Joshua2 And it may seem to some. I still believe in our republic and working to restore. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Liberals want bureaucrats to run our lives. Conservatives want businessmen to run our lives. Neither wants us to run our own lives, so a pox on both their houses. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Coulter's article was outstanding and tells the truth. If some don't like it, it does not matter. Strange choice of words here: dazzle On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:42:20 -0500 Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- No one who actually thinks for him/herself could ever take Ann Coulter seriously. She wrote one of many one-sided books trashing the Clintons and they are all the same. There are a few defending the Clintons which are just as bad on the other side. The only book I have read that even attempts to give a balanced view is Jeffrey Toobin's A Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Coulter doesn't seem to realize she is nothing but a trophy conservative taken off the shelf to dazzle strangers when it is convenient. Those backing her biased blathering probably snicker that she's a dumb blonde behind her back. Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- Do you really believe this? Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they buy a Brooklyn Bridge propaganda control line. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/16/01 3:44:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Coulter's article was outstanding and tells the truth. If some don't like it, it does not matter. Strange choice of words here: dazzle Seriously, let's take this debate beyong blaming liberals and conservatives. So you believe in a conspiracy by liberals? Led by who and for what purpose? Om k A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- At 09:07 PM 6/16/01 -0400, Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, let's take this debate beyong blaming liberals and conservatives. Even more seriously, let's examine EVERYTHING about liberals, lets expose their vanity, narcissism, and hypocrisy, and let's hold them accountable for their destructiveness and perfidy. So you believe in a conspiracy by liberals? Led by who and for what purpose? Led by: Alpha-liberals: smart, narcissistic, amoral For what purpose: P-O-W-E-R The conspirators: Alpha-liberals: smart, narcissistic, amoral. cunning (Bill Clinton, Hillary Rodham, Tom Daschle, Dick Gephart, Edgar Bronfman, Morris Dees, George Soros, trial lawyers, union bosses) Beta-liberals: stupid, self-indulgent, emotional, greedy (the underclass, criminals, government workers) The conspiracy: The Alphas simply promise the Betas that in exchange for the Beta's power they (the Alphas) will steal from the productive members of society on behalf of the Beta's and shower the loot on them, while excusing them from any blame by reassuring them that they are only (morally superior) victims. There. Now you know how Democracy works and why it is ultimately doomed to socialist authoritarianism. DBC A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Ann Coulter () June 15, 2001 DISESTABLISH THE CULT OF LIBERALISM This week the Supreme Court upheld the right of religious groups to participate in the beautiful mosaic of after-school activities. No new territory was broken: The case was almost identical to another case in which the Supreme Court reversed the exact same court years ago. This was massive resistance. Justice Clarence Thomas remarked on the oddity of having to reverse the same court twice, noting that while the appellate courts aren't required to cite all the Supreme Court's precedents, they might want to cite the last time they were reversed on the same facts. At least the 6-3 decision gives us an accurate count of the atheists on the court, probably as accurate as my dream of giving them all polygraph tests someday. (Do you believe in a Higher Being ... no, seriously.) Concerned someone might be reading Leviticus during school hours, Justice David Souter dissented in a hair-splitting exegesis about the precise time classes let out (2:56 p.m.), vs. the time the organizers would enter school property (2:30 p.m.). The New York Times' obligatory hysterical denunciation of the decision revealingly complained: (C)hildren that young are unlikely to discern that the religious message of authority figures who come to the school each day to teach does not carry the school's endorsement. It is simply taken for granted that it's desirable for children to revere authority figures at government schools. Normally those authority figures are teaching the youngsters to put condoms on zucchini or training them in the catechism of recycling. Sending a mixed message about government authority figures might interfere with the state's ability to turn small children into Good Germans inculcated in the liberal religion. It's well past time for liberalism to be declared a religion and banned from public schools. Allowing Christians to be one of many after-school groups induces hysteria not just because liberals hate religion. It's because the public school is their temple. Children must be taught to love Big Brother, welcoming him to take over our schools, our bank accounts, our property, even our toilet bowls. We're told the First Amendment requires a separation of church and state, which, just as an incidental matter, is completely false. The whole point of the Constitution is to separate the federal government from the individual. In keeping with the general theme, the First Amendment provides that Congress cannot establish a religion -- but nor can it stop the states from establishing religions. That's why it says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Dear Congress: You may be eligible for a free country. You do nothing. The only thing that tempers my annoyance with the canard about states not being allowed to establish religions is imagining the kind of established religion we'd have in New York. We'd be doing daily devotionals to Saint Hillary. Still, it is a fact that when the First Amendment was ratified, several states had established religions. Fortunately for the burgeoning minority religions in those states, the established religions were things like Episcopalianism and Congregationalism rather than Liberalism. It's hard to imagine now, but before the official government religion was liberalism -- devoted to class warfare, ethnic hatred and intolerance -- Americans were kind to one another. They managed to get along even without ACLU lawsuits. Thus, when there were enough practitioners of other faiths in a state to be bothered by the established religion, the majority just disestablished themselves. Back to the New Country: Two malcontents at the Virginia Military Institute recently sued to ban VMI's tradition of saying a non-denominational prayer at mealtime. The cadets are not required to recite the prayer or even bow their heads. Merely having to stand while listening to an invocation of God is apparently very upsetting for them. (I'd hate to see these guys under fire.) A typical rendition of the VMI dinner prayer goes like this: Almighty God, we give our thanks for VMI, for its reputation, spirit and ideals. Let your favor continue toward our school and your grace be abundantly supplied to the Corps. Now, O God, we receive this food and share this meal together with thanksgiving. It doesn't get any more sectarian than that. How about: Designer of the Universe (if you're out there) ... Religious people keep cheerfully going back and trying to formulate some prayer that won't make liberals angry. But the problem won't go away. No prayer that assumes a belief in a Higher Being will ever be acceptable. God has no part in the religion of sex education, environmentalism, feminism, Marxism and loving Big Brother. In a totally unsurprising development, liberals finally suspended their opposition to the death penalty in the case of Timothy McVeigh. He was the
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Do you really believe this? Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they buy a Brooklyn Bridge propaganda control line. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- No one who actually thinks for him/herself could ever take Ann Coulter seriously. She wrote one of many one-sided books trashing the Clintons and they are all the same. There are a few defending the Clintons which are just as bad on the other side. The only book I have read that even attempts to give a balanced view is Jeffrey Toobin's A Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Coulter doesn't seem to realize she is nothing but a trophy conservative taken off the shelf to dazzle strangers when it is convenient. Those backing her biased blathering probably snicker that she's a dumb blonde behind her back. Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- Do you really believe this? Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they buy a Brooklyn Bridge propaganda control line. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Kris, I take it your question is addressed to me as this is my post although another posted the same article under a different header. Ann Coulter is known for her rather sarcastic wit but there is an element of truth in her contention that it is ridiculous to be so concerned with religion in after-school activities when all day long, children attending govt schools are being indoctrinated in the liberal point of view and having their values rearranged in other ways. I know this to be true for I have seen it happen with my own children. So in that context, I do believe this. Perhaps you do not appreciate Ms. Coulter's style of writing for it is designed to make people think and I do think some people have not considered the fact that much that is taught in schools that is social engineering at its worst. I am not the only one who thinks this for that is why we have such a rise in home schooling now. She does not literally mean liberalism is a religion but that it is taught in public schools (yes, I KNOW this to be true) yet they are the ones who object to any OTHER ideologies being presented. Do you believe there are no ideologies presented in the classrooms and that education if strictly academic and free from political and social orientation? That is all she is saying. Are we no longer about different aspects of the political dialectic? ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- Do you really believe this? Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they buy a Brooklyn Bridge propaganda control line. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Well, Dale, how is that different than liberal commentators? She is supposed to be biased as she is a conservative commentator, not a news reporter or journalist. She does not present herself as being neutral. So you do not believe there are politics of the liberal persuasion being taught in schools? Been there lately? But what really concerns me is that although two different posters posted this same article, Coulter is far from the extreme right as in Falwell and The Christian Coalition. What would happen if a post from that element appeared? Are conservative points of view not to be presented, even as this was done, without comment or endorsement? Did I misread the Mission Statement of this list? I thought different sides of the political dialectic were SUPPOSED to be presented for the purpose of acting it out. Now it seems to me that this is not true judging from the reaction to this article, which should have been innocuous in and of itself. As I said, I have never seen Coulter deemed extreme. So is one side presenting here for only the convenience of the opposite (liberal) side to bash and validate themselves? That would not be very nice, would it? We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists but not from Falwell nor Christian Coalition, etc. yet even moderate conservative views draw fire. What is wrong with this picture, in light of the mission statement? ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Dale Stonehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- No one who actually thinks for him/herself could ever take Ann Coulter seriously. She wrote one of many one-sided books trashing the Clintons and they are all the same. There are a few defending the Clintons which are just as bad on the other side. The only book I have read that even attempts to give a balanced view is Jeffrey Toobin's A Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy. Coulter doesn't seem to realize she is nothing but a trophy conservative taken off the shelf to dazzle strangers when it is convenient. Those backing her biased blathering probably snicker that she's a dumb blonde behind her back. Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- Do you really believe this? Because if this is a true viewpoint of persons, boy are they buy a Brooklyn Bridge propaganda control line. Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Amelia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 12:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism Well, Dale, how is that different than liberal commentators? She is supposed to be biased as she is a conservative commentator, not a news reporter or journalist. She does not present herself as being neutral. That's correct, they are all the same and equally irritating. So you do not believe there are politics of the liberal persuasion being taught in schools? Been there lately? I have no disagreement with Ms. Coulter on that. But it doesn't matter to me what they are teaching; the problem is they teach people what to think instead of how to think and as a result people are unable to see there are two sides to everything. But what really concerns me is that although two different posters posted this same article, Coulter is far from the extreme right as in Falwell and The Christian Coalition. What would happen if a post from that element appeared? Are conservative points of view not to be presented, even as this was done, without comment or endorsement? Some of us dislike the conservative AND liberal view but to either side that is heresy. Politics is a hissy-fight over who gets to spend other peoples' money, and how much to skim off the top. A necessary evil that is very necessary so we must tolerate the imperfections. Now it seems to me that this is not true judging from the reaction to this article, which should have been innocuous in and of itself. You are correct; I have a problem with Ms. Coulter and that is a matter of personal taste. She rubs me the wrong way. We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists but not from Falwell nor Christian Coalition, etc. yet even moderate conservative views draw fire. Those are all labels that define people much too narrowly for my preferences. I try to keep politics and religion out of my thinking because they just clutter things up. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists Gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists are not the extreme side of the left. Many among them aren't leftists at all, not by any stretch of the imagination. Some gays, some wiccans, and some pagans are leftists. Some gays and some pagans are rightists. Most wiccans are apolitical. No wiccans are rightists. Anarchists are neither leftists nor rightists. Eco-extremism was founded by Nazis. Some contemporary eco-extremists are leftists, some are rightists and some are anarchists. Making it even more complicated is that the very definition of extreme is a relative one. The same position can be easily seen as extreme by one faction and as moderate by another faction. Get your facts straight. Better still, abandon the paradigm. Left/right is a false dichotomy. The spectrum is insufficient in scope to serve as a valid metaphor for the political landscape. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ===Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A ===To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
From: Nessie We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays,eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists Gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists are not the "extremeside of the left." Many among them aren't leftists at all, not by anystretch of the imagination. I second Nessie's statement. Every gay I have ever known has consistently voted the Republican ticket, and most Wiccans and otherflavors of pagans whom I've known have also been conservative, politically, economically, and socially. Some gays, some wiccans, and some pagans are leftists. Some gays andsome pagans are rightists. Most wiccans are apolitical. No wiccans arerightists. Here I will have to disagree. I've knowna few Wiccans who could be classified as 'rightist'... Get your facts straight. Better still, abandon the paradigm. Left/rightis a false dichotomy. The spectrum is insufficient in scope to serve asa valid metaphor for the political landscape. Yes, I found that out back in the days when I was active in antinuke groups...ostensibly a 'leftist' cause, I found I could find the best information from the 'rightist' militias and other conservative groups. I also found that groups labeled 'conservative' routinely treated the women in their organizations with more respect than the groups labeled 'leftist' or 'liberal' treated their female members June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio at: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 _IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- Well, Nessie, I basically agree with what you are saying but that was NOT the issue about which I was asking. I apparently did not express myself well. I was saying that just ANN COULTER was not considered extremists and giving some examples of possible groups generally considered one way or the other, like Jerry Falwell on the right and maybe Marxist on the left as possible people who would be counted extremists for contrast. My question was what was wrong with posting the weekly, nationally syndicated column of a person who is NOT extreme, frequent visitor of talk show news pundits on TV, etc. Ann Counter. Why does this deem me a fool and her article 'irritating' and 'propaganda' that requires I be so informed by the listowner? You, yourself, have raised the very subject she does with her article. It is how people view the ideology of others as being taught in schools, etc. at the expense of their tax dollars. You have said you do not like the superstitions of others so taught. She is aying what is so magic about the 'after school' aspect of what goes on when it has been going on all day. Why is it wrong to post this? Is this forum for liberal views only because when I signed up, I understood something very differently about different views, etc. all coming together and Hegelian dialectic and all sides being necessary to get a complete picture. If this post is inappropriate, I want to clearly know that. I will not post material that is in any way inappropriate to this list. I do not, on the other hand, appreciate being given the impression that all sides were free to post if they are not. Just asking for clarification as to why a Coulter post is not welcome when some post up to two entire newsletters of much more extreme material, page after page. I seem to have missed some rule or other and want to know what it is and where it is located because I got the same deal when I posted a Neal Boortz article. Coulter is Republican and Boortz is a Libertarian. If this is a liberal forum, I want t o know and that is what I am trying to find out. ~Amelia~ - Original Message - From: Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism -Caveat Lector- We have posts from the extreme side of the left in the form of gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists Gays, eco-extremists, wiccans, pagans, anarchists are not the extreme side of the left. Many among them aren't leftists at all, not by any stretch of the imagination. Some gays, some wiccans, and some pagans are leftists. Some gays and some pagans are rightists. Most wiccans are apolitical. No wiccans are rightists. Anarchists are neither leftists nor rightists. Eco-extremism was founded by Nazis. Some contemporary eco-extremists are leftists, some are rightists and some are anarchists. Making it even more complicated is that the very definition of extreme is a relative one. The same position can be easily seen as extreme by one faction and as moderate by another faction. Get your facts straight. Better still, abandon the paradigm. Left/right is a false dichotomy. The spectrum is insufficient in scope to serve as a valid metaphor for the political landscape. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Ann Coulter on the Religious Cult of Liberalism
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 6/15/01 8:22:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you believe there are no ideologies presented in the classrooms and that education if strictly academic and free from political and social orientation? That is all she is saying. Are we no longer about different aspects of the political dialectic? ~Amelia~ Wasn't really directed at you , just the claptrap. Yes, the schools have been and are used by sinister forces to groom new slaves, but the whole liberal / conservative dialectic is fashioned out of propagandic cloth. Let us get beyond that. And no I do not care for the rhetorical style of he piece which amplifies and divides and hardens the sides. It is not the vox populi. MHO I mean do you really think the liberals are out to get ya. Tell me who or what do you see as the sinster forces loose in the world? Om k MHO Om K A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
