Re: [CTRL] BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES CONSTITUTION

2001-01-29 Thread John Cone

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--- William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>
 BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES
 CONSTITUTION AND INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS,
 "The Constitution created a separation between
 religion and government..."


Nakano Comments:

   Arguing that anything "violates the Constitution"
is pointless and a waste of time.  The cold hard
truth is, the Constitution is not in force, it is not
the "Law of the Land".  Our Constitution was
unlawfully
suspended in March of 1933 by a traitorous
president (FDR) and an equally traitorous Congress.
Presidents now rule as dictators via Executive Orders.
Clinton did it blatantly.  George Bush hasn't wasted
any time issuing his first Executive Orders.
Under The Constitution, laws are made by Congress,
not by the President and not by the courts.
But the government is not operating in accordance
with the Constitution. It hasn't been since 1933.

Every president since FDR has defied the Constitution.

On June 17, 1995, The Executive Committee of the
Republican Party of Texas adopted by unanimous vote
RESOLUTION #5 entitled:
"Restoration of the United States Constitution".

I quote the very first paragraph of this Resolution:

   "Whereas, The Republican Party of Texas recognizes
that acts of the Congressional body and the Office of
the President of the United States of America created
an emergency condition, and that on and after March 6,
1933 and March 9, 1933 the same said Public Offices
effectively impaired and suspended the Constitution
for
the United States of America under pretense
of these same created emergency conditions, and that
the impairments and disabilities yet exist and are in
full force and effect throughout the Nation and
several States of the Union as of the date of this
resolution; and
 Whereas, there has occurred continuous breach of
trust, duty and obligation imposed under authority of
the Constitution for the United States of America,
resulting in a continued abridgment
of the Rights, Privileges, Immunities, and Liberties
of Citizens and others, all committed under pretense
of a continuing national crisis and furtherance of
emergency conditons..."

The Resolution concludes by demanding "the rescinding
of the state of national emergency declared on March
9, 1933...thereby returning the United States of
America to its original peacetime Constitutional
Republic."

A complete copy of this Resolution is
available from:
The Republican Party of Texas
211 East 7th St
Suite 620 Austin, TX 78701


Someone should ask President Bush if he will
terminate this phony "National Emergency".
Because until it is terminated, we are living
under a dictatorship.

   Regards to All
 Nakano


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Re: [CTRL] BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES CONSTITUTION

2001-01-29 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/29/01 7:13:43 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "In every instance where my administration sees a responsibility to help
>  people, we will look first to faith-based organizations, charities and
>  community groups that have shown their ability to save and change lives,"
>  Bush said on July 22, 1999.

  Notice he doesn't even provide a single disclaimer that all people will
somehow be served regardless of their religious or non-religious affiliation.
 He doesn't even bother to assure people that any other than Christian
institutions will be funded.  Add vouchers to this proposal and it looks like
we will have a publicly funded right wing Christian nation.  This is one
dangerous mutha.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES CONSTITUTION

2001-01-29 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Shannon forwards
"The Constitution created a separation between religion and
 government, not a  massive new bureaucracy designed to
 unite the two," added Lynn, a United  Church of Christ minister
 and an attorney. "The very existence of a federal office whose
  principal purpose is to give tax dollars to religious groups is
  in irreparable conflict with the First Amendment."
MJ
Nonsense.
The First Amendment prohibits CONGRESS ... hence the FIRST
word in the series.

That the President has no authority to do this AND that the
Constitution provides no branch the authority to take from taxpayers
and give 'benevolently' is apparently of no concern since those
AGAINST this measure wish to maintain THEIR unconstitutional
efforts at plunder.

Regard$,
--MJ

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propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful
and tyrannical. --Thomas Jefferson

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[CTRL] BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES CONSTITUTION

2001-01-29 Thread William Shannon
http://www.au.org/pr12501.htm

BUSH'S 'FAITH-BASED' SOCIAL SERVICE PLAN VIOLATES CONSTITUTION AND INDIVIDUAL
RIGHTS, SAYS WATCHDOG GROUP
BUSH INITIATIVE IS A 'RADICAL ASSAULT' ON AMERICA'S TRADITION OF CHURCH-STATE
SEPARATION, CHARGES AMERICANS UNITED
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The White House announced today that President George W. Bush will unveil
plans for a major "faith-based" social service initiative next week.
Americans United for Separation of Church and State, a national church-state
watchdog group and a leading critic of the Bush proposal, described the new
initiative as a misguided and dangerous approach to public policy. The scheme
will reportedly include a new office in the White House to promote government
aid to church-run social services.
"People shouldn't have to go to a church they may not believe in to get help
from the government," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of
Americans United. "Placing people in need in this kind of position is just
plain wrong. This is a radical assault on the American tradition of
church-state separation.
"The Constitution created a separation between religion and government, not a
massive new bureaucracy designed to unite the two," added Lynn, a United
Church of Christ minister and an attorney. "The very existence of a federal
office whose principal purpose is to give tax dollars to religious groups is
in irreparable conflict with the First Amendment."
According to materials distributed during the campaign, Bush wants to
distribute federal tax dollars to religious groups to provide a plethora of
social services now being provided by government agencies or secular groups.
These services would include after-school programs for children, job
training, drug treatment, prison rehabilitation programs and abstinence
programs.
Critics say these kinds of faith-based initiatives are burdened with many
serious flaws. Among the most serious is a provision that would allow
federally funded employment discrimination on religious grounds. A religious
group, for example, will be able to receive public tax dollars to pay for a
job, but still be free to hang up a sign that says "Jews Need Not Apply."
"Just imagine: your money pays for a job that you can't have because of your
religious beliefs," Lynn observed. "That's not compassionate conservatism,
that's blatant bigotry."
Critics also charge that the Bush plan will jeopardize the independence and
integrity of church-run social service programs.
"What the government funds, it always regulates," said Lynn. "Once churches,
temples, mosques and synagogues are being financed by the public, some of
their freedom will be placed in jeopardy by the almost certain regulation to
follow."
Bush's faith-based initiative is part of a broader effort to expand so-called
"charitable choice" funding, which originated with former-Sen. John Ashcroft
(R-Mo.) during the drafting of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. The concept
changed existing law to permit public funding of "pervasively sectarian"
groups where religion permeates every aspect of the institution.
Faith-based initiatives were a center point of Bush's presidential campaign.
As Bush describes it, this program will be part of a broader mobilization
effort of what Bush has called his "armies of compassion."
Bush has explained that the office, once in place, will remove barriers that
prevent additional funding of religious groups, coordinate federal funding
from multiple government agencies and encourage states to establish their own
offices of faith-based action to facilitate state funds going to religious
groups.
"In every instance where my administration sees a responsibility to help
people, we will look first to faith-based organizations, charities and
community groups that have shown their ability to save and change lives,"
Bush said on July 22, 1999.
"There's nothing compassionate about Bush's legally dubious scheme,"
concluded Lynn. "Contributions to religious groups must come from supporters
voluntarily, not be forced by the government. Bush's faith-based initiative
is a constitutional nightmare and a disastrous step in the wrong direction."
Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington,
D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization represents 60,000 members and allied
houses of worship in all 50 states.