Re: [CTRL] BUSH SAW SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE SAW

2001-12-17 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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June:
Thank you for this information.
Somehow I missed seeing the first plane video.
I think your explanation of what Bush said is
probably what occured.
I find one thing about all this still puzzling.
The President sees the second plane hit the
Trade Center. He goes ahead with the plan to read
to the children. His aide steps up and whispers in
his ear, something to the effect of:
"Mr. President we definitely have had a terrorist
attack on the World Trade Center."
Bush gives no visible reaction to this information.
He calmly goes back to reading to the children for
another 20 minutes???
This reactionor lack of reaction by the
President of the United States makes no sense at all.
Nakano
--- RevCOAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> From: Nakano Nakamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Has anyone on this list seen a picture or video
> >of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center?
> >We all saw the second plane hit the second Tower
> >over and over and over.
> >But were there any pictures ever shown of the
> >first plane as it hit the WTC?
>
> Yes, most people have seen the clip of the first
> plane hitting that was
> caught from a ground-level training video that was
> being shot in the Wall
> Street area that morning...but that clip wasn't
> broadcast until more than
> an hour after the plane hit, and then it too was
> played and replayed over
> and over...
>
> In addition, I remember the NYC station I was
> watching also showing a clip
> of the FIRST plane hitting that was caught by one of
> the many traffic
> helicopters that fly in the area on weekday
> mornings; I at first thought it
> was one of the many replays of the video of the 2nd
> plane hitting until the
> reporter stressed that it was the first plane, and
> indeed both towers were
> intact and not on fire until the plane hit the North
> Tower; this clip was
> replayed for a couple of minutes on this one
> station, and never
> repeated...neither did I ever see it shown on
> another station -- why it
> disappeared and what happened to it, I do not know.
> But this clip wasn't
> shown until almost noon time, so it couldn't have
> been what Bush was
> referring to...
>
> People are taking a simple statement from a simple
> mind, and blowing it out
> of context; what Bush ACTUALLY said was that he was
> watching TV at 9am and
> saw *A* plane hit the WTC...he does not specify
> 'first' or 'second' plane,
> just 'a' plane; a few minutes later he says an aide
> whispered in his ear
> that 'a second plane hit the WTC'; from this people
> are imagining that Bush
> said he saw the FIRST plane hit the WTC...
>
> But that isn't what he said, and it would have been
> impossible even if he
> DID say it, because the first plane hit the North
> Tower at 8:45 a.m., NOT
> at 9 a.m. when Bush says he watched as a plane hit
> the WTC; the second
> plane hit the South Tower at 9:02 a.m., so what
> ACTUALLY seems to have
> happened is:
>
>   1) the first plane hit the WTC North Tower at 8:45
>
>   2) all the media switched to live coverage of the
> burning tower
>
>   3) as Bush waited to go in to read to the kiddies,
> a TV was switched on
> for him to see the breaking news
>
>   4) at 9:02 all the live media coverage of the
> burning North Tower showed
> a plane plowing into the South Tower (the 2nd plane)
>
>   5) Bush then went in to read to the kiddies, a
> photo op that had already
> been put in place and couldn't be avoided
>
>   6) as he read to the kiddies, an aide came in and
> CONFIRMED that a second
> plane had crashed into the WTC
>
>
> Quite simple, really
>
>
>
> June
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Re: [CTRL] BUSH SAW SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE SAW

2001-12-17 Thread RevCOAL

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From: Nakano Nakamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Has anyone on this list seen a picture or video
>of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center?
>We all saw the second plane hit the second Tower
>over and over and over.
>But were there any pictures ever shown of the
>first plane as it hit the WTC?

Yes, most people have seen the clip of the first plane hitting that was
caught from a ground-level training video that was being shot in the Wall
Street area that morning...but that clip wasn't broadcast until more than
an hour after the plane hit, and then it too was played and replayed over
and over...

In addition, I remember the NYC station I was watching also showing a clip
of the FIRST plane hitting that was caught by one of the many traffic
helicopters that fly in the area on weekday mornings; I at first thought it
was one of the many replays of the video of the 2nd plane hitting until the
reporter stressed that it was the first plane, and indeed both towers were
intact and not on fire until the plane hit the North Tower; this clip was
replayed for a couple of minutes on this one station, and never
repeated...neither did I ever see it shown on another station -- why it
disappeared and what happened to it, I do not know.  But this clip wasn't
shown until almost noon time, so it couldn't have been what Bush was
referring to...

People are taking a simple statement from a simple mind, and blowing it out
of context; what Bush ACTUALLY said was that he was watching TV at 9am and
saw *A* plane hit the WTC...he does not specify 'first' or 'second' plane,
just 'a' plane; a few minutes later he says an aide whispered in his ear
that 'a second plane hit the WTC'; from this people are imagining that Bush
said he saw the FIRST plane hit the WTC...

But that isn't what he said, and it would have been impossible even if he
DID say it, because the first plane hit the North Tower at 8:45 a.m., NOT
at 9 a.m. when Bush says he watched as a plane hit the WTC; the second
plane hit the South Tower at 9:02 a.m., so what ACTUALLY seems to have
happened is:

  1) the first plane hit the WTC North Tower at 8:45

  2) all the media switched to live coverage of the burning tower

  3) as Bush waited to go in to read to the kiddies, a TV was switched on
for him to see the breaking news

  4) at 9:02 all the live media coverage of the burning North Tower showed
a plane plowing into the South Tower (the 2nd plane)

  5) Bush then went in to read to the kiddies, a photo op that had already
been put in place and couldn't be avoided

  6) as he read to the kiddies, an aide came in and CONFIRMED that a second
plane had crashed into the WTC


Quite simple, really



June

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[CTRL] BUSH SAW SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE SAW

2001-12-16 Thread Nakano Nakamura

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Has anyone on this list seen a picture or video
of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center?
We all saw the second plane hit the second Tower
over and over and over.
But were there any pictures ever shown of the
first plane as it hit the WTC?

Bush claims he saw it on TV before he entered
that school classroom to read to the children.
If he saw it on TV, he must have been watching
a very special closed-circuit government security
channel.
 Nakano

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