Re: [CTRL] Barbara Marx Hubbard - Plus Ascension articles
In a message dated 00-06-20 21:10:38 EDT, you write: << The thing is they follow the belief that everything is maya in the physical world so its not really important if people live or die, because life is an illusion anyway. Hubbard worked out one quarter of humanity is electing to 'transcend' >> Nicky - I co-created for a while with Barbara Marx Hubbard in the 1980s - We met at the UniSpace conference in Vienna in 1982; and then we worked as colleagues on a variety of projects for several years as a kind of consciousness presence countering the Reagan years in Washington, DC. I actually saw a draft of her channelings early in 1982 in a loft of a mutual friend in San Francisco. These channelings later became the core of the Book of CoCreation. In various postings on the Internet, Barbara has denied or backed away from the 25% humanity ratio statements. I tend to think she is right that her statements are being taken out of context. My understanding of the concept of co-creation - which I derived from her writings and from helping her develop her ideas - is that we have an interactive relationship with higher source and higher intelligence in the Universe. This is a message that appears in many transformational literature (See Exopolitics.com) Some of the confusion in people's minds may be sourced from the fundamentalist Christian "rapture" material. For example recently of Larry King Live the authors of the #1 Best Seller "Left Behind" argue that 25% of the human population will be teleported into another dimension (Heaven), and only 25% of those left on Earth will survive. That's fundamentalist stuff. BMH's writings are more transformational; things that would feel right at home on armageddon or new age, surfingtheapocalypse.com and like-minded progressive sources. Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. Alfred :-) _ Exopolitics - Alternative News for ecology, consciousness & Universe politics. MIRROR SITES: USA http://www.exopolitics.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Barbara Marx Hubbard - Plus Ascension articles
Ynr Chyldz Wyld wrote: > "Pseudo-scientific" would be a better description... > > > Subject: Will 'Ascension' occur June 22? > > Anyone want to place any bets on this? Should we hold a Going Away > Party for Nicky today? ;-) Does the 'winky' take the sarcasm away? Nah, I don't think so. ;=) http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Barbara Marx Hubbard - Plus Ascension articles
From: "Nicky Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Scientific Proof for the Reality of Ascension "Pseudo-scientific" would be a better description... > Subject: Will 'Ascension' occur June 22? Anyone want to place any bets on this? Should we hold a Going Away Party for Nicky today? ;-) June http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Barbara Marx Hubbard - Plus Ascension articles
I posted some of this below previously on Hubbard but there is another paragraph on this. Typical Illuminati philosophy. The thing is they follow the belief that everything is maya in the physical world so its not really important if people live or die, because life is an illusion anyway. Hubbard worked out one quarter of humanity is electing to 'transcend'. What she probably means is when the Pleiadians and Sirians have finished reactivating the world gridlines with HAARP and they pull the switch to try to break the barrier between the 3rd and 4th dimension they figure a quarter will survive in an etherialized form. If anyone has the time, energy and endurance to check these posts out, then they will see exactly who is trying to bring this world into the next dimension. It was the Philadelphia Experiment, an 'accident' caused by Ets waiting hundreds of years for Aug 12 '43 for the biorhythms of this planet to be ready for them to tear a 40 mile rip in time that brought this about. Now after they saw that a person could dematerialise into the next dimesnion and even reappear they, the scientists, want to join their ET buddies and live in the next dimension too. Calling themselves the 6th Aryan race. [coined by Blavatsky and Alice Bailey from the Tibetan called Dwul Kull] They think it is the end of this physical cycle due to the Mayan prophecies and other ancient texts. We also have Dr Andrija Puharich who channelled Ets to find out about our consciousness and now HAARP is cutting up the ionosphere, where channeled Ets revealed our brainwaves operate from. Below is a post on the actual channelled info. So they figure that by wiping the memories of our lives they can put a new reality in electromagnetically. Just put Tom Beardon through search this archive if you want more on this. Also The Philadelphia Experiment and Ascension. Subject: Top Scientist channeled ET for brainwave info in '67 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1177?&start=874 Subject: Implants to hasten ascension? http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1367?&start=874 Subject: Scientific Proof for the Reality of Ascension http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1688?&start=874 Subject: Ascension plan http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/916?&start=895 Subject: Will 'Ascension' occur June 22? http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/2235?&start=895 Subject: Highlights of Keys of Enoch http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/170?&start=41 Subject: Council of 9 on timeportals Grid series No 11 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/697?&start=277 Subject: Quantum physicist ready to 'ascend?' http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/675?&start=277 Subject: What are we to believe? http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/711?&start=277 Subject: The Philadelphia Experiment and Ascension http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/281?&start=277 Subject: Conclusions on the Ascension 1/2 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/276?&start=41 Subject: Conclusions on the Ascension 2/2 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/277? Subject: Ascension/second coming links http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/285?&start=277 Subject: The 'Matrix' revealed - Earth's techno Second Coming http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/286?&start=277 Subject: Metatron on a flip the earth "Second Coming?" http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/493?&start=277 Subject: Drunvalo on 4th Dimensional Shift 2/2 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/629?&start=277 Subject: Philadelphia Experiment: Aliens, Time-Travel and Wormholes Interview - Al Bielek http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/270 Subject: World ascension day miserable failure Grid series 8 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/187?&start=41 Subject: Some will not make the transition - Ets tell us http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/124?&start=41 Subject: Ascension or Wishful Thinking??? http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/44?&start=41 Subject: Becker/Hagens: The Global Grid Solution. Grid series No 9 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/47?&start=41 Subject: Doorway Activations World gridline series No 7 http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/48?&start=41 Subject: HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS--PART I http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/219?&start=41 Subject: HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS--PART II http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/220?&start=41 Subject: The Keys Of Enoch by JJ Hurtak http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1473?&start=874 If you put the word Hurtak thru "search this archive" you will find out about ascension and who is doing it.These posts will show up. http://www.egroups.com/messages/armageddon-or-newage Nicky 1931 MACK, MAUSSAN, HURTAK HIGHLIGHT 95
