Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-20 Thread Schmidt

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That's true. I think they argue that standing at a urinal is an aggressive
stance that is supposed to indicate dominance on the part of the male.
I suppose the woman sitting down to urinate is taken as a despised
symbol of submission or some such nonsense. The odd thing is is that
several women inventors have devised urinals for women - one is called the
She-inal I believe. I'm not sure what the feminist take on women using
She-inals is though.

BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
a man complain about women leaving it down.

I can't speak for other guys (although from what i've seen I'm no different to anyone 
else who uses them) but my posture whe using a urinal is no different to when I'm 
standing at a bus-stop. Given how much more hygenic they are (esp. in public 
facilities) it's outrageous that some ideological nit-wit wants to get rid of them.

By way of comparison, what if I started a campaign to ban women from using tampons 
because

a) There are no tampons mentioned anywhere in the bible
b) They encourage women to become lesbians
c) The allow multinational corporations to dominate women's bodies

?

In fact, I'm very tempted to start a parody website to clamp down on 'Satan's little 
cotton fingers' as the Landover Baptist Church calls them.


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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-20 Thread Schmidt

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Stupid observation.  Having grown up with six brothers (plus all their
friends constantly at the house) I can tell you that men are not all
that great at consistently hitting the toilet and that there is nothing
worse than running to the bathroom and falling a few extra inches onto a
urine soaked rim.


I suppose it's what seperates the boys from the men. Most guys get the hang of it 
eventually (although accidents do happen!).


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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-20 Thread Michael Pugliese

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  The smaller 4 legged animals need to organize an Animal Liberation Front
to prevent the larger 4 legged bullies from devouring them.
Michael Pugliese

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 In a message dated 7/19/01 7:46:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  look - while i think PETA is way off the mark here, we should teach our

 children to understand that when they fish they are killing something.

 that's a fact. they should be respectful and aware of what their actions

 mean. 

 Yeah, it means fish for supper.


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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/20/01 9:20:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   The smaller 4 legged animals need to organize an Animal Liberation Front

to prevent the larger 4 legged bullies from devouring them.

Michael Pugliese 

What a splendid idea! And when the little, four legged animals become too
powerful, politically, The larger four legged animals can bribe the fish and
game people to let them hunt the little four legged animals with large forks!

BHoward

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-20 Thread Yardbird

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 What a splendid idea! And when the little, four legged animals become too
 powerful, politically, The larger four legged animals can bribe the fish and
 game people to let them hunt the little four legged animals with large forks!

 BHoward

Or maybe they could unite and hunt the environmentalists. Granted an
underfed vegan may not be the most nourishing food source but they apppear
to be plentiful and are not listed as an endangered species. Besides
they're easy to catch - what with many of them chaining themselves to
trees in the middle of nowhere.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-20 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/20/01 2:03:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Or maybe they could unite and hunt the environmentalists. Granted an
underfed vegan may not be the most nourishing food source but they apppear
to be plentiful and are not listed as an endangered species. Besides
they're easy to catch - what with many of them chaining themselves to
trees in the middle of nowhere. 

I like it! I really do like this idea!! We would really be improving the gene
pool!

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-20 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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From: Yardbird
 What a splendid idea! And when the little, four legged animals become too
 powerful, politically, The larger four legged animals can bribe the fish
and
 game people to let them hunt the little four legged animals with large
forks!

Or maybe they could unite and hunt the environmentalists. Granted an
underfed vegan may not be the most nourishing food source but they apppear
to be plentiful and are not listed as an endangered species. Besides
they're easy to catch - what with many of them chaining themselves to
trees in the middle of nowhere.

Well, Findhorn and The Secret Life of Plants showed that flora are also
sentient beings, so they should also have their own PAC... ;-)



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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread thew

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what the fuck does how one feels about fishing have to do with sexual
orientation?

hello?

damn

look - while i think PETA is way off the mark here, we should teach our
children to understand that when they fish they are killing something.
that's a fact. they should be respectful and aware of what their actions
mean.


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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

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 how do grown people get away with this
 it sounds like a comedy sketch - are you sure
 this isn't just a joke ???
 so when boy scouts scout the wilderness for food
 what if they get taught that plants 'electronically scream'
 when you boil them [science lyall watson] and that the little plant spirit
 doesn't feel good right now about being eaten ???

 if this is true it sounds like EMASCULATION of the little
 boys survival instincts - taking away their little manly
 self sufficiency [ie. chopping away the manly bits]

 this is truly a homosexual agenda.

 andrew hennessey

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 PETA Targets Boy Scouts Fishing Merit Badge
 (CNSNews.com) - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is now
 targeting the Boy Scouts of America because of a merit badge given to
 members who exhibit a mastery of fishing, an activity PETA claims [teaches]
 young people that hooking, maiming, suffocating, and killing [fish] is
 acceptable. To spread its message, PETA has begun running television
 advertisements calling on the Boy Scouts to retire its Fishing and Fish
 and Wildlife Management merit badges.


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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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look at the psychology of it.
the catching and killing of a fish -
the whole process of hooking hunting and killing is
a part of masculine psychology -

the banning of such activity is emasculation.
governments propose to start young with their new
social engineering programmes
[I know - you are completely unaware of any such -]

 what the fuck does how one feels about fishing have to do with sexual
 orientation?

it isn't feeling thats the point of the issue - its that little boys
are not being allowed to do essentially masculine activities.

this is part of a bigger picture and agenda of emasculation

hello ?? do you research those things too about the Healthy Start programme,
healthy person - you seem completely unaware of the massive intrusions by
the state into the running of family lives and the promotion of some family
values -

I think you could do better than that -

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread Schmidt

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Sounds like the loony feminists who want to ban urinals, because they encourage rape. 
Apparently (and how the feminists know this I don't want to know) when men use the 
urinal they feel superior to women and it encourages aggression.

I'm not making this up, a number of universities and colleges have factions agitating 
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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/19/01 7:46:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 look - while i think PETA is way off the mark here, we should teach our

children to understand that when they fish they are killing something.

that's a fact. they should be respectful and aware of what their actions

mean. 

Yeah, it means fish for supper.

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[CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-19 Thread Yardbird

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Sounds like the loony feminists who want to ban urinals, because they encourage rape. 
Apparently (and how the feminists know this I don't want to know) when men use the 
urinal they feel superior to women and it encourages aggression.

I'm not making this up, a number of universities and colleges have factions agitating 
to take the urinals out of the male toilets.

That's true. I think they argue that standing at a urinal is an aggressive
stance that is supposed to indicate dominance on the part of the male.
I suppose the woman sitting down to urinate is taken as a despised
symbol of submission or some such nonsense. The odd thing is is that
several women inventors have devised urinals for women - one is called the
She-inal I believe. I'm not sure what the feminist take on women using
She-inals is though.

BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
a man complain about women leaving it down.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-19 Thread Euphorian

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 That's true. I think they argue that standing at a urinal is an
 aggressive
 stance that is supposed to indicate dominance on the part of the male.
 I suppose the woman sitting down to urinate is taken as a despised
 symbol of submission or some such nonsense.

Or standing anywhere?  Making holes in the snow should be especially troublesome.
Such aggression to the point of quasi-violent behaviour!!!  Schools would be
expelling right and left!!!  (And not only for poor penmanship.)

Is the standard commode a stylised egg in need of incubation?

The odd thing is is that
 several women inventors have devised urinals for women -

There were (reportedly) urinals for women a long time ago, the kind with the
protruding cup still in use today.

One might hear complaints about the seat being left down if men don't raise it in
the first place.  Some acts of decency go unrecognised and uncomplimented.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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From: Schmidt
I'm not making this up, a number of universities and colleges have factions

agitating to take the urinals out of the male toilets.

And then what?  You guys are supposed to go pee in the bushes?


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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-19 Thread Bill Howard

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In a message dated 7/19/01 10:15:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
a man complain about women leaving it down. 

Excellent Observation.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread thew

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maybe because men dont fall in if its down...
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  BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-19 Thread Nurev Ind.

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thew wrote:

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 maybe because men dont fall in if its down...

But... and it's a big butt, if the man doesn't put up the seat, then
the seat gets pissed upon. That's no good for either party. The standard
should be that men always lift the seat, and women should watch where they
put their ass.

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  In a message dated 7/19/01 10:15:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
  a man complain about women leaving it down. 
 
  Excellent Observation.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned (fwd)

2001-07-19 Thread Kelly

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Bill Howard wrote:

  BTW why do women complain about men leaving the seat up? I've never heard
 a man complain about women leaving it down. 

 Excellent Observation.

Stupid observation.  Having grown up with six brothers (plus all their
friends constantly at the house) I can tell you that men are not all
that great at consistently hitting the toilet and that there is nothing
worse than running to the bathroom and falling a few extra inches onto a
urine soaked rim.

I am all for urinals that are housed seperately from my bathroom.

So boys!  Please put the seat down.  It is only curtious.

Thank you.

Kelly

Oh, and the house I grew up in had six bathrooms, and I don't seem to
recall the boys ever cleaning one of them.  Or any of the other 15 rooms
for that matter.  But they did make great breakfasts after we'd partied
all night, so they were forgiven everything.

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[CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-18 Thread Yardbird


PETA Targets Boy Scouts Fishing Merit Badge
(CNSNews.com) - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is now targeting 
the Boy Scouts of America because of a merit badge given to members who exhibit a 
mastery of fishing, an activity PETA claims [teaches] young people that hooking, 
maiming, suffocating, and killing [fish] is acceptable. To spread its message, PETA 
has begun running television advertisements calling on the Boy Scouts to retire its 
Fishing and Fish and Wildlife Management merit badges.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200107\CUL20010716a.html



Re: [CTRL] Boy Scout Bloodlust Bemoaned

2001-07-18 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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how do grown people get away with this
it sounds like a comedy sketch - are you sure
this isn't just a joke ???
so when boy scouts scout the wilderness for food
what if they get taught that plants 'electronically scream'
when you boil them [science lyall watson] and that the little plant spirit
doesn't feel good right now about being eaten ???

if this is true it sounds like EMASCULATION of the little
boys survival instincts - taking away their little manly
self sufficiency [ie. chopping away the manly bits]

this is truly a homosexual agenda.

andrew hennessey

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 PETA Targets Boy Scouts Fishing Merit Badge
 (CNSNews.com) - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is now
targeting the Boy Scouts of America because of a merit badge given to
members who exhibit a mastery of fishing, an activity PETA claims [teaches]
young people that hooking, maiming, suffocating, and killing [fish] is
acceptable. To spread its message, PETA has begun running television
advertisements calling on the Boy Scouts to retire its Fishing and Fish
and Wildlife Management merit badges.


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