Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory: The Movie]
-Caveat Lector- Johannes Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The numbers 5 and 23 crop up frequently. Hmmm...I would've expected 17 as well fnord. (Or perhaps the frequent occurrence of 16 is meant to imply 17 *by its absence*... "Indeed do many things come to pass!") Hail Eris! Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theory: The Movie
-Caveat Lector- Keep up the work! Now, I realise that life is just this random event, random moment after random moment. Yet, despite being on this freefall roller coaster, there are those who make a concerted effort to make some sense of it all. Ergo, religious texts, politics, learning (higher and otherwise), and other systematic analyses come into play --- oh, almost forgot 'writing'; the means by which thought and word are made into a system of symbols. And then there are the "Conspiracy Theory" -ists, who look at the world in a different way. The movie was about one of these folks, and was not one of the themes: "if you look at everything, the chances are you might get something right" ? Now, let's assume that the people who made the movie really had an idea of what they were thinking, talking about; it seems only natural they would put clues into the film for the discerning viewer. The movie was made **intentionally** and who knows what little tricks and games the creators played. The lettre "n" ? This is the 14th lettre of the alphabet (as we in the U.S. know it); 1 + 4 = 5 (2 + 3 = 5, too). I think the Illuminati might find this a significant number; if not them, certainly the Qabalists (a current craze in MovieLand). One hour and thirty-five minutes = 95 minutes; 9 + 5 = 14, and, well ... in a random world, coincidence happens and must be accepted as such, a random event. A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. -- : From: Johannes Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theory: The Movie : Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 7:50 PM : : -Caveat Lector- : : I rented the Mel Gibson flick Conspiracy Theory last week, and spent : some time flashing frame by frame looking for subliminals and other tid : bits. Heres what I found. : : The first and most obvious subliminal is the Warner Bros logo in the : first few seconds of the film. This isn't a subliminal per se but it is : there (I think) to let people know what to look out for. Theres a lot of : product names flashed around in the film (moreso than normal films with : 'product placement') : : The Best subliminal I found was in the scene where Gibson and Julia : Roberts are talking at her apartment for a few minutes. There is a bowl : of fruit directly in the foreground (I remember it was much clearer on : the big screen). The bowl of fruit looks exactly like a male genitalia, : and it is in the picture for at least a minute while they are talking. : : 1 hour and 35 minutes into the film, the letters N N or N I N are : clearly visible on crates as they drive past. The letter N seems to show : up a lot. : : Where Jerry goes into the Federal Building and looks at the board : showing the tenants, the following motley assortment are shown: : : Department of the Air Force, Office of Special Investigations, : Army Corps of Engineers, : Central Intelligence Agency, : Department of Commerce, : Bureau of the Census, : Minority Business Development, : FEMA, : Federal Employees Assistance Program. : Federal Executive Board, : Federal Supply Service, : Assistant Regional Administration, : General Services Admin, : Office of Regional Admin : Office of Personell : : : The numbers 5 and 23 crop up frequently. The bus they meet on is a : number 5. The SPace Shuttle (according to the article he clips) will be : in orbit 23 days 16 hours with a crew of 5. : The numbers 16 and 48 also are frequent. There seem to be some patterns : ut i am unable to discern them. : : His taxi number IS48 : Combination to his coffee 42312 : Bus Number 1648 (5 also visible) : Subway platforms: 4716 and 4717 : Name on Taxi License: Kaffi Paloulian 4650217 : ALice's Mobile no: 9179239597 : Taxi ALice takes to confront Jonas: 3N23 : Global Fund for Mergers and Aquisitions suite number: 1203 : Office Number Alice calls on her mobile: 2125551257 (stored number #3) : Fed Car at burst watermains 28073 : Gerrys Union Pin number 107 : : There are also a few characters who reappear. The most obvious one is : 'FLip', the newsagent/spy. Also note the old man in the bookstore who : asks Gerry about the Catcher in the Rye is a security guard at the : hospital he is held at near the end. There are probably others too. : : The newspapers Gerry clips state that: : The item on the president to visit turkey: On the rest of the page is an : incomp
Re: [CTRL] Conspiracy Theory: The Movie
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[CTRL] Conspiracy Theory: The Movie
-Caveat Lector- I rented the Mel Gibson flick Conspiracy Theory last week, and spent some time flashing frame by frame looking for subliminals and other tid bits. Heres what I found. The first and most obvious subliminal is the Warner Bros logo in the first few seconds of the film. This isn't a subliminal per se but it is there (I think) to let people know what to look out for. Theres a lot of product names flashed around in the film (moreso than normal films with 'product placement') The Best subliminal I found was in the scene where Gibson and Julia Roberts are talking at her apartment for a few minutes. There is a bowl of fruit directly in the foreground (I remember it was much clearer on the big screen). The bowl of fruit looks exactly like a male genitalia, and it is in the picture for at least a minute while they are talking. 1 hour and 35 minutes into the film, the letters N N or N I N are clearly visible on crates as they drive past. The letter N seems to show up a lot. Where Jerry goes into the Federal Building and looks at the board showing the tenants, the following motley assortment are shown: Department of the Air Force, Office of Special Investigations, Army Corps of Engineers, Central Intelligence Agency, Department of Commerce, Bureau of the Census, Minority Business Development, FEMA, Federal Employees Assistance Program. Federal Executive Board, Federal Supply Service, Assistant Regional Administration, General Services Admin, Office of Regional Admin Office of Personell The numbers 5 and 23 crop up frequently. The bus they meet on is a number 5. The SPace Shuttle (according to the article he clips) will be in orbit 23 days 16 hours with a crew of 5. The numbers 16 and 48 also are frequent. There seem to be some patterns ut i am unable to discern them. His taxi number IS48 Combination to his coffee 42312 Bus Number 1648 (5 also visible) Subway platforms: 4716 and 4717 Name on Taxi License: Kaffi Paloulian 4650217 ALice's Mobile no: 9179239597 Taxi ALice takes to confront Jonas: 3N23 Global Fund for Mergers and Aquisitions suite number: 1203 Office Number Alice calls on her mobile: 2125551257 (stored number #3) Fed Car at burst watermains 28073 Gerrys Union Pin number 107 There are also a few characters who reappear. The most obvious one is 'FLip', the newsagent/spy. Also note the old man in the bookstore who asks Gerry about the Catcher in the Rye is a security guard at the hospital he is held at near the end. There are probably others too. The newspapers Gerry clips state that: The item on the president to visit turkey: On the rest of the page is an incomplete article on GWS and Schwartzkopf claiming ignorance on why parts of his battle logs are missing. The orbituary for Harriman states he married Mellissa Garrison (any relation to Jim?). Anyway, if anyone can make any sense of any of the above, you probably need some time to relax! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
