[CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: Who's in charge here???
-Caveat Lector- http://news.cnet.com/investor/news/ newsitem/0-9900-1028-4825719-RHAT.html?tag=ltnc 2/14/01 4:57 PM Source:Bloomberg News Redmond, Washington, Feb. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating-system chief, Jim Allchin, says that freely distributed software code such as rival Linux could stifle innovation and that legislators need to understand the threat. The result will be the demise of both intellectual property rights and the incentive to spend on research and development, he said yesterday, after the company previewed its latest version of Windows. Microsoft has told U.S. lawmakers of its concern while discussing protection of Linux is developed in a so-called open-source environment in which the software code generally isn't owned by any one company. That, as well as programs such as music-sharing software from Napster Inc., means the world's largest software maker has to do a better job of talking to policymakers, he said. "Open source is an intellectual-property destroyer," Allchin said. "I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the software business and the intellectual-property business." Microsoft distributes some of its programs without charge to customers, although it generally doesn't release its programming code, and it retains the ownership rights to that code. Linux is the most widely known open-source product, though other programs including the popular Apache system for Web server computers also are developed the same way. COREL INQUIRY Allchin made his comments several hours before Microsoft confirmed that its $135 million investment in software maker Corel Corp. last October is being reviewed by the U.S. Justice Department. Corel said last month it willl drop efforts to develop the Linux operating system, though it will continue to make Linux applications. Corel said it hadn't consulted with Microsoft before making that decision. Brian Behlendorf, founder of open-source company CollabNet Inc., said most companies that use the open-source development model do retain the rights to some of their intellectual property. "I think Microsoft is trying to paint the open-source community as being fascist; that all software have has to be free, or none of it can be," said Behlendorf, whose company helps businesses run their own open-source projects. Allchin said he's concerned that the open-source business model could stifle initiative in the computer industry. "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way," he said."I worry if the government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat." LINUX ADOPTION Some leading computer companies including International Business Machines Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co. are selling Linux- based products and working on open-source projects, noted Jeremy Allison, a VA Linux Systems Inc. software developer. He's also a leader in a project develop an open-source file and printer server program. Microsoft only began significant lobbying efforts in the last few years. The Redmond, Washington-based company also talks to lawmakers about issues including the need for more visas for people with computer skills and computer privacy and security. Linux is the fastest-growing operating system program for running server computers, according to research firm IDC. It accounted for 27 percent of unit shipments of server operating systems in 2000. Microsoft's Windows was the most popular on that basis, with 41 percent. Despite Linux's success in some markets, Allchin says he isn't concerned about sales competition from the product. Microsoft provides support to change and develop products based on its operating system software that Linux companies don't, he said. Companies that use Linux in their products then must pay someone else for support, he said. "We can build a better product than Linux," he said."There is always something enamoring about thinking you can get something for free." == Commentary... The solution of course, is to do away with Intellectual Property rights alltogether. To make ideas property, is the modern equivalent of what the Rich did to the " commons " through " enclosure." Ideas can not and should not be owned. That is not to say that inventive people should not be well compensated for their efforts. They certainly should. But once compensated, that's it. Only capitalism could produce such an absurdity as making human ideas into property. What's next? Owning the Genome? Making sound property, like Harley-Davidson tried to do by patenting the sound of their bikes? Or how about where McDonald's sued a man in Scotland who sold hamburgers under the name McDonald. How DARE he be born with the name of their corporate logo! ALL the evils of Capitalism are based on the idea of " Private Property." This is not the same thing as personal property. The things we each own. This is a legal slight of hand, as is
Re: [CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: Who's in charge here?
-Caveat Lector- Joshua The problem is that we " CONSUMERS " ( A BIOLOGICAL ENTITY WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO CONSUME ) are not modifying our behavior well enough to conform to the machinations of the free market and its corporate manipulators. MJ If someone is MANIPULATING a 'market' ... how is it free? Joshua Ah so Grasshopper. Now you get it. The manure pile between your ears has finally produced some growth. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET. The real question is who controls the markets that exist. MJ No, Joshua ... this is AGAIN *me* pointing to the Foolishness you espouse as reality. You call Statism, Capitalism ... You call controlled markets, free markets ... you call restricted trade, free trade ... Regard$, --MJ War is peace; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength. -- eorge Orwell http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: Who's in charge here?
-Caveat Lector- "M.A. Johnson" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > Joshua > The problem is that we " CONSUMERS " ( A BIOLOGICAL ENTITY > WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO CONSUME ) are not modifying our > behavior well enough to conform to the machinations of the free > market and its corporate manipulators. > > MJ > If someone is MANIPULATING a 'market' ... how is it free? Ah so Grasshopper. Now you get it. The manure pile between your ears has finally produced some growth. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE MARKET. The real question is who controls the markets that exist. Congratulations Johnson. A major breakthrough. Your Mommy must be so proud. J2 > > Regard$, > --MJ > > If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is > still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: Who's in charge here?
-Caveat Lector- Joshua The problem is that we " CONSUMERS " ( A BIOLOGICAL ENTITY WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO CONSUME ) are not modifying our behavior well enough to conform to the machinations of the free market and its corporate manipulators. MJ If someone is MANIPULATING a 'market' ... how is it free? Regard$, --MJ If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -- Anatole France http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Corporations ubber alles: Who's in charge here?
-Caveat Lector- The problem is that we " CONSUMERS " ( A BIOLOGICAL ENTITY WHOSE SOLE PURPOSE IS TO CONSUME ) are not modifying our behavior well enough to conform to the machinations of the free market and its corporate manipulators. C'mon now kids...you're not trying. Joshua2 === Subject: "Power Crisis" -- a "Behavior Modification" Exercise Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:06:19 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Until now, Democrats have thwarted attempts to fashion a national energy policy that would give incentives for more oil and gas drilling ... ""The biggest problem in California is that consumers are still not [responding properly to the 'free market']," Enron Corp chairman Ken Lay announced. ""They are not changing behavior so the problem is going to get worse. Painful as it may be, they need to start modifying their behavior ..." === Clinton declares natural gas supply emergency in California By Tom Doggett WASHINGTON, Jan 19 (Reuters) - President Bill Clinton declared a natural gas supply emergency in California on Friday, and ordered out-of-state suppliers to continue selling gas to California's largest utility to fuel electric generation plants. Clinton directed Energy Secretary Bill Richardson to issue a federal order requiring firms to supply natural gas to Pacific Gas and Electric , which is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. Richardson said the emergency order, which expires at 3 a.m. EST (8 a.m. GMT) on Jan. 24, was issued after PG&E said several energy firms refused to sell it gas on credit because they feared the utility would be unable to pay for the gas. "I am very concerned that such supply disruptions could endanger the health and welfare of PG&E's residential and commercial gas customers and could exacerbate the already precarious condition of California's electric grid by eliminating fuel supplies to a number of generating plants," Richardson said. The electricity shortage in the nation's richest and most populous state will be among the immediate issues facing President-elect George W. Bush when he takes office Saturday. A key energy adviser to Bush said the federal government should limit itself to an "advisory" role and let California state lawmakers resolve a complicated problem that was mostly self-inflicted by a flawed deregulation plan. "The biggest problem in California is consumers are not going to see the price signals. If they don't see the price signals, they are not changing behavior so the problem is going to get worse," Enron Corp chairman Ken Lay told reporters. "Painful as it is, they need to see the price signals and start modifying behavior to reduce demand until we get new supplies," he added. PG&E and Edison International have warned federal and state officials they face bankruptcy because California's landmark 1996 deregulation law does not allow them to pass on the tenfold leap in wholesale power costs to consumers. California's woes have also been exacerbate the also have not been helped by the fact that practically no new power generating plants have been built in the state for the last 10 years -- a period during which the population and the economy have boomed, greatly increasing demand for electricity. NATGAS NEEDED TO KEEP UTILITY RUNNING California Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, asked Clinton last weekend for the emergency natural gas supply order, before the state was hit with two days of rolling blackouts and a widening power crisis. Residents in many cities have had to cope with the loss of traffic lights, automatic teller machines, elevators and computers during the rolling blackouts. Richardson said the Energy Department would take legal action against firms that did not comply, saying: "There will be enforcement action if the order is not carried out." On Thursday, PG&E said its deteriorating credit rating could force it to drain all its natural gas in storage by early February because suppliers have balked at providing more. The Clinton administration has also tried to help ease the California crisis with a separate order issued on Wednesday that forces out-of-state power generators to sell extra electricity to PG&E and to Edison International . BUSH READY ON ENERGY ISSUES Richardson said he had briefed his successor, Spencer Abraham, on the California crisis. Abraham, a former Michigan senator, was expected to win swift confirmation by the U.S. Senate as Bush's choice for energy secretary. Richardson said Abraham was prepared, saying: "They are ready to act." He did not elaborate. On Thursday, Abraham testified before the Senate Energy committee but refused to say what options, if any, the Bush administration was considering to help solve the crisis. The California state legislature met this week to try to work out a so
