Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- Interesting, especially in light of the fact that Oregon is on the cutting edge with regard to perhaps even more slippery-slope legislation regarding human euthanasia. It only makes sense that they would pass legislation allowing the corporate mining of human DNA. All this stuff is directly related to the re-emerging paradigm that "the benefits of X to The State outweigh the privacy issues and/or rights of the individual." All very Hitlerian and Platonic, and the philosophy, as well as recent history, are very clear indicators of where it will all end. - Lyn -Original Message- From: AOL User [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 10:07 AM Subject: DNA Ain't You In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. ---snip--- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. Instead, what they said, in the bill, is that your DNA is a "Privacy" issue. The reason for doing this was so that pharmaceutical companies could TAKE your DNA - via various methods - SO LONG AS they swore to NOT disclose who the person was from whom the DNA came from. The CATCH is, that once taken, that DNA became the property of the research facility or lab that possessed it. Quite interesting isn't it? They don't want your own DNA to be "called" YOURS, but on the flip side of it, they DO want the DNA, once taken from a person's body to become the property of the person or company in who's possession that DNA is in. Additionally, I did a little research. One of the groups supposedly supporting this DNA bill was an organization which calls itself PhRMA. So, I dug into who was associated with PhRMA. As I discovered, PhRMA was composed of quite literally over a 100 pharmaceutical companiesas well as companies NOT related to the pharmaceutical industry If you are interested in which companies are involved in PhRMA, then go to my website at http://home1.gte.net/leslemke and click on the graphic which shows a DNA strand drawingit's big and red in color and says YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY SO SAYS THE OREGON SENATE When the next page comes up look for this link: YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY ACCORDING -- TO THE OREGON SENATE ( Oregon Senate Chamber Meeting of May 28, 1999 9:53 AM ) Read Senate Bill 937 for yourself and read where the main sponsor of Senate Bill 937, Senator Neil Bryant, says that *YOUR* *DNA* is *NOT* your own property. Listen to Senate members defend their SELL OUT of your intrinsic RIGHTS to the Pharmaceutical and Bio-Tech corporations as well as to Oregon State Research Institute which plans to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS through the research of DNA. -- After you get to THAT page you'll see a link that will say this: Pharmaceutical Research Manufacturers of America *** Click on that link to see over 100 companies that have an interest in that legislation that just passed the Oregon Senate. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- This is very interesting in light of new technologies and future breakthroughs--could one be clones without knowing and meet oneself on the street one fine day? This seems like something that should be challenged in court. On a larger scales then are our organs our own? Amelia - Original Message - From: AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 9:06 AM Subject: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You -Caveat Lector- In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. Instead, what they said, in the bill, is that your DNA is a "Privacy" issue. The reason for doing this was so that pharmaceutical companies could TAKE your DNA - via various methods - SO LONG AS they swore to NOT disclose who the person was from whom the DNA came from. The CATCH is, that once taken, that DNA became the property of the research facility or lab that possessed it. Quite interesting isn't it? They don't want your own DNA to be "called" YOURS, but on the flip side of it, they DO want the DNA, once taken from a person's body to become the property of the person or company in who's possession that DNA is in. Additionally, I did a little research. One of the groups supposedly supporting this DNA bill was an organization which calls itself PhRMA. So, I dug into who was associated with PhRMA. As I discovered, PhRMA was composed of quite literally over a 100 pharmaceutical companiesas well as companies NOT related to the pharmaceutical industry If you are interested in which companies are involved in PhRMA, then go to my website at http://home1.gte.net/leslemke and click on the graphic which shows a DNA strand drawingit's big and red in color and says YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY SO SAYS THE OREGON SENATE When the next page comes up look for this link: YOUR DNA IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY ACCORDING -- TO THE OREGON SENATE ( Oregon Senate Chamber Meeting of May 28, 1999 9:53 AM ) Read Senate Bill 937 for yourself and read where the main sponsor of Senate Bill 937, Senator Neil Bryant, says that *YOUR* *DNA* is *NOT* your own property. Listen to Senate members defend their SELL OUT of your intrinsic RIGHTS to the Pharmaceutical and Bio-Tech corporations as well as to Oregon State Research Institute which plans to make MILLIONS OF DOLLARS through the research of DNA. -- After you get to THAT page you'll see a link that will say this: Pharmaceutical Research Manufacturers of America *** Click on that link to see over 100 companies that have an interest in that legislation that just passed the Oregon Senate. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.co
Re: [CTRL] DNA Ain't You
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Amelia Edgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is very interesting in light of new technologies and future breakthroughs--could one be clones without knowing and meet oneself on the street one fine day? This seems like something that should be challenged in court. On a larger scales then are our organs our own? In case anyone is interested, there was a bill that just passed the Oregon Senate which defined Human DNA as *NOT* being the property of the person ie: if you live in Oregon then, the Oregon Senate just declared, by signing this bill, that YOUR OWN DNA is not your property. If your DNA is not your own, then anyone cloned from you is a separate and distinct person, legally. Another recent news item mentioned twinned embryos, implanted and birthed six years apart - thus, you could quite possibly encounter a clone you never knew, have no ownership over, etc. So: if one has sex with one's clone [of possible distinct appearance and age], is one committing: masturbation; incest; buggery; narcissism? If you and your clone have the same fingerprints, retinal patterns, DNA for forensic purposes, and one of you commits a crime, can you both be found guilty? If you buy something, does your clone own it too - if not, how can differences between you be distinguished, how can actual ownership be discerned? If your clone locks you up, are you your keeper's brother? More germane in this forum, what benefit does any conspiracy gain by promulgating clones, by owning DNA, by controlling destinies? Who stands to gain? Who finances current legal/social/cultural movements re: genetic modification, DNA/genome sequencing, mammalian cloning? Follow the money. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
