Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-13 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Aleisha Saba wrote:

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 And blacks in Columbus area are taught that blacks invented the clock?

 But when you get on web into history you find that most of the slave
 ships were owned by Jews and it was black Africans who sold the black
 slaves to the ship owners.now here is where black africans can
 really make fast buck

 Then since you can go back on the Nazis - I want reparations for the
 death of my father .and in history going way back every American who
 lost a son or a  father or a husband should have reparations...

 But the most sincere arrangement would be to paya these blacks their
 "reparations" on the condition they return to Africa and let the
 descendents of the slave ship owners pay their way.   One way tickets -
 free of charge, for those who want to return to the jungles and aid
 invested country.what would their lives be like today in South
 Africa or the Sudan for these slaves who came to America were NOT wanted
 by heir own, and in fact, were in some instances cannibals and some
 swinging from trees living with the monkey.

 Hate to be insensitive but I find it difficult these days to be
 sensitive to a group of people who are plotting to destroy us from
 within with considerable help from their former "slave ship owners
 descendents".

 Saba

If you don't like it, why don't YOU leave. Nobody is forcing you to
stay.

And by the way Einstein, SOME rich Jews owned shares in slave ships,
and SOME rich Jews owned slaves, and SOME rich Jews owned plantations
in the Caribbean. Possibly as much as a fraction of a percent. But we
all know that the African slave trade was started and maintained by
the Arabs, and then taken over by white European Christians. Kinda like
you Saba.

Because of that, YOU, dear demented one, must sell your house and all
your worldly belongings and turn the proceeds over to the first Black
person you see. Then get back to Europe where you belong.

Joshua2

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Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-13 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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Interesting site, the kind I feature at

http://leviathan.weblogs.com

daily (hoping to get to the 10,000 hit mark today!)

http://members.home.net/veganmozfan/

Diana's Death Foretold in the Work of Morrissey

Morrissey (nickname 'MOZ') was the lyricist and singer in The Smiths (1982-1987).
MEAT IS MURDER, their second album, reached number one on the British charts in 1985.
Since the breakup of The Smiths, Morrissey has enjoyed continued success and
in 1998 was awarded Britain's prestigious Ivor Novello Lifetime Achievement Award
for his outstanding contribution to British music.
Morrissey - a vegetarian - is otherwise known for his outspoken belief in animal 
rights:

"The life of any animal is just as important to that animal as your life is to you, or 
mine to me."
- Morrissey, Greenscene interview, 1989








In 1986 - eleven years before the death of Princess Diana - Morrissey and The Smiths 
released the album
THE QUEEN IS DEAD.



For the cover of this album whose title announces the death of a royal female, 
Morrissey chose a photo of
a French man named Alain,
(actor Alain Delon).
The first public announcement of Princess Diana's death was made by
a French man named Alain,
(Dr. Alain Pavie, head of the Cardiology department at Paris' Hospital de la Pitie 
Salpetriere).

Morrissey named THE QUEEN IS DEAD after a chapter title in the Hubert Selby novel
LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN.
BROOKLYN is the largest of the five boroughs that comprise the city of NEW YORK.
Diana's fatal car crash occurred in an underpass tunnel in which she was headed toward 
the
EXIT TO THE AVENUE DE NEW YORK.

Morrissey started THE QUEEN IS DEAD with audio from the film THE L-SHAPED ROOM
about a woman - played by actress Lesley Caron - who moved from France to England.
Diana's body was moved from France to England.
Lesley Caron was born on July 1st.
Diana was born on July 1st.

The audio from THE L-SHAPED ROOM selected by Morrissey to start THE QUEEN IS DEAD
is a woman leading a sing-along of
'TAKE ME BACK TO DEAR OLD BLIGHTY'.
'Blighty' is slang for England.
Apart from the fact that
Diana's body had to be taken back to dear old Blighty for burial,
the significant thing here is the name of the character leading the sing-along: Mavis.
[Remember that her name is Mavis.
We'll return to this point later.]


The following song is from the album titled THE QUEEN IS DEAD:

THERE'S A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT
Take me out tonight
where there's music and there's people
who are young and alive
driving in your car
I never never want to go home
because I haven't got one
anymore

and if a double-decker bus
crashes into us
to die by your side
such a heavenly way to die
and if a ten-ton truck
kills the both of us
to die by your side
the pleasure and the privilege is mine

and in the darkened underpass
I thought Oh God, my chance has come at last
(but then a strange fear gripped me and I
just couldn't ask)

Oh, there is a light that never goes out
there is a light that never goes out

Morrissey's lyrics to THERE'S A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT from THE QUEEN IS DEAD 
concern:
two people
on a date
at night
in the city
driving in a car
fantasizing about getting killed in a car crash
gripped by fear in an underpass

Over a decade later we have Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed:
two people
on a date
at night
in the city
driving in a car
getting killed in a car crash
in an underpass

In 1987, this very same song - THERE IS A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT from THE QUEEN IS 
DEAD -
became the 'A'-side of the only Smiths single ('B'-side: HALF A PERSON) in the 
lifetime of the band to be
released exclusively in France.
Princess Diana died in France.

In 1995, this very same song - THERE IS A LIGHT THAT NEVER GOES OUT from THE QUEEN IS 
DEAD -
wound up as the last song on the last Smiths album before Diana's death:



Released eight years after the breakup of The Smiths, the last Smiths album prior to 
Diana's death
was a retrospective compilation of their singles, titled "SINGLES".

For the cover of this final Smiths album before Diana's death,
Morrissey chose a photo of an actress named Diana
clutching a pillar
in the film YIELD TO THE NIGHT.
Princess Diana
crashed into a pillar
just minutes after midnight.

The 'Diana' on the album cover is actress Diana Dors.
Diana Dors' real name was MAVIS Fluck.
MAVIS was the name of the character from THE L-SHAPED ROOM
whose singing of TAKE ME BACK TO DEAR OLD BLIGHTY
was chosen by Morrissey to start THE QUEEN IS DEAD.
[Remember?]


In the summer of 1997, Morrissey released his final single before Diana's death:

ALMA MATTERS
So, the choice I have made
may seem strange to you
but who asked you anyway?
it's my life to wreck
my own way

You see, to someone somewhere
Alma matters in mind
body and soul
in part and in hole

So, the life I have made
may seem wrong to you
but I've never been surer
it's my life to ruin
my own way


Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-12 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:45:11 -0800 "Damian B. Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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At 07:45 PM 1/11/01 -0600, kl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
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 Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?
Michael Savage
Monday, Jan. 8, 2001

The Third Wave leftist hoaxsters are pushing "reparations" for
slavery.  Now, slavery ended in the U.S. 130 years ago.  There is


Credit to my college roommate for discerning the following unfulfilled
moral obligation:

"Shouldn't blacks owe reparations to white people for 500 years of
eating missionaries?"

DBC

The missionaries should compensate the Africans for indigestion.

Incidentally, just about everyone could sue the European Union on the grounds that 
their ancestors may have been slaves under the Ancient Greek or Roman civilisations.

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Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-12 Thread Aleisha Saba

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And blacks in Columbus area are taught that blacks invented the clock?

But when you get on web into history you find that most of the slave
ships were owned by Jews and it was black Africans who sold the black
slaves to the ship owners.now here is where black africans can
really make fast buck

Then since you can go back on the Nazis - I want reparations for the
death of my father .and in history going way back every American who
lost a son or a  father or a husband should have reparations...

But the most sincere arrangement would be to paya these blacks their
"reparations" on the condition they return to Africa and let the
descendents of the slave ship owners pay their way.   One way tickets -
free of charge, for those who want to return to the jungles and aid
invested country.what would their lives be like today in South
Africa or the Sudan for these slaves who came to America were NOT wanted
by heir own, and in fact, were in some instances cannibals and some
swinging from trees living with the monkey.

Hate to be insensitive but I find it difficult these days to be
sensitive to a group of people who are plotting to destroy us from
within with considerable help from their former "slave ship owners
descendents".

Saba

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[CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-11 Thread kl

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 Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?
Michael Savage
Monday, Jan. 8, 2001

The Third Wave leftist hoaxsters are pushing "reparations" for
slavery.  Now, slavery ended in the U.S. 130 years ago.  There is
no black person (born in the U.S.) who was ever a slave.  There is
not a living white person (born in the U.S.) who ever owned a slave.
Yet the hoaxsters push their newest "Big Lie"?
Using their Marxist "Animal Farm" thinking caps, they argue that
all blacks suffered as a result of slavery, that they were
permanently damaged by the institution of slavery, and that there is
no statute of limitations on such a crime against (black) humanity.
Putting aside all other considerations for the sake of brevity and
accepting such premises, let us reason together.
While Jewish people alive today did not directly endure slavery,
their ancestors did, building the pyramids of Egypt and such. Since
the legalistic hoaxsters argue against statutes of limitations for
claims going back over one century past, why not go back 50
centuries and have all Jewish people make claim for reparations
against all Egyptians?
And, not to disrespect revisionist black "historians" who claim the
great pyramids and other Egyptian discoveries and creations were
made by black Africans (not by Semitic Egyptians), we can ask for
reparations from the NAACP and other black supremacist
organizations.

How about it, John Conyers?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/8/210745.shtml

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Re: [CTRL] Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?

2001-01-11 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 07:45 PM 1/11/01 -0600, kl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
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 Do Blacks Owe Jews Reparations?
Michael Savage
Monday, Jan. 8, 2001

The Third Wave leftist hoaxsters are pushing "reparations" for
slavery.  Now, slavery ended in the U.S. 130 years ago.  There is


Credit to my college roommate for discerning the following unfulfilled
moral obligation:

"Shouldn't blacks owe reparations to white people for 500 years of
eating missionaries?"

DBC

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