Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- > I'm glad we can agree about something FLW. American Jews are mostly > Liberals, and as such they suffer from a severe reality deficit. They > would rather not know. Believe me. > > J2 > There is hope for you. flw http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > > flw wrote: > > > > The evidence indicates FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and > > > did nothing; now it is clear he knew about the impending Holocaust > > > and did nothing. Now we know what FDR really stands for: > > > "F**king Dirty Rat." > > > flw > > This might come as a news flash to YOU, but WE knew about it all > the time. There was NO ONE who would, or could prevent the mass > annihilation of the Jews in Christian Europe. > J2 > > Rather facile, J2. > > Most aware folks know all about FDR. > > Too many Americans,especially US Jews, look upon FDR as some kind > of Great Progressive. Ole Sanctimonious Eleanor especially causes them > to swoon. Eleanor's letters were full of anti Semitic comments. > > FDR was a Fascist anti Semite. > > FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and Hitler...all peas in a pod. > flw I'm glad we can agree about something FLW. American Jews are mostly Liberals, and as such they suffer from a severe reality deficit. They would rather not know. Believe me. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- BB wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > I don't have much of a problem, except perhaps for Nasty Newcomers, > who show up from out of nowhere and bash everyone on the list instead > of employing civil, mannerly, gentlemanly disagreement. > > My, how touchy your are - ease up a little - you'll live longer. > > I'm pretty sure that we're on the same page with some issues, it's > just that the vituperative rhetoric gets in the way of understanding. > > You seem to have remarkable insight into my grasp of WWII history-- > I understand all your points about censorship, I do not understand > your point in the last paragraph regarding Roosevelt --- > > Did you somehow conclude that I thought him a "good guy?" > > BB > > > > "Damian B. Cooper" wrote: > > > -Caveat Lector- > > > > At 01:07 AM 7/6/01 -0700, BB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >-Caveat Lector- > > > > > >Duh-uh! Pick on a word, and divert attention away from the main > > >point which was that fdr and the fedguv had firsthand reports of massive > > >deportation, concentration camps, and systematic murder of as many Jews > > >as the germans could process. > > > > > >So the word "holocaust" wasn't used in '41 -- SO WHAT?? > > >Does that mean it never happened??? What a clever rebuttal. > > > > > >Do not lose sight of the fact that Jews were not the only target > > >of the lunatic's ethnic cleansing. > > > > Jews served in the armed forces of the Third Reich all the way up > > to and including the rank of Field Marshall. > > > > How do you explain that? > > > > You're problem is that you don't know that World War II occurred > > under a regime of OFFICIAL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT > > CENSORSHIP. > > > > The Roosevelt administration censored the > > news, and the censored news became censored history. > > > > Can you tell me: when did the U.S. Government officially announce that > > it would stop censoring the news, AND when did it release all of > > the information that it held back from the American public? > > > > The answer is: there are still hundreds of thousands, perhaps > > millions of World War II era documents that are still classified > > or restricted from public examination in the archives of the U.S., > > Russia, and other European countries. > > > > Your grasp of WW II history is nothing more than the Pavlovian > > reaction to a propaganda cartoon painted for you by Harry > > Hopkins, Alger Hiss, Henry Morganthau, and the other Commies > > who operated Roosevelt. And your grasp of WWII is just plain stupid. Morganthau was a Wall Street banker and insider. If you are suggesting that Roosevelt was a Commie, then you are a fool. Joshua2 > > > > DBC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- I don't have much of a problem, except perhaps for Nasty Newcomers, who show up from out of nowhere and bash everyone on the list instead of employing civil, mannerly, gentlemanly disagreement. My, how touchy your are - ease up a little - you'll live longer. I'm pretty sure that we're on the same page with some issues, it's just that the vituperative rhetoric gets in the way of understanding. You seem to have remarkable insight into my grasp of WWII history-- I understand all your points about censorship, I do not understand your point in the last paragraph regarding Roosevelt --- Did you somehow conclude that I thought him a "good guy?" BB "Damian B. Cooper" wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > At 01:07 AM 7/6/01 -0700, BB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >-Caveat Lector- > > > >Duh-uh! Pick on a word, and divert attention away from the main > >point which was that fdr and the fedguv had firsthand reports of massive > >deportation, concentration camps, and systematic murder of as many Jews > >as the germans could process. > > > >So the word "holocaust" wasn't used in '41 -- SO WHAT?? > >Does that mean it never happened??? What a clever rebuttal. > > > >Do not lose sight of the fact that Jews were not the only target > >of the lunatic's ethnic cleansing. > > Jews served in the armed forces of the Third Reich all the way up > to and including the rank of Field Marshall. > > How do you explain that? > > You're problem is that you don't know that World War II occurred > under a regime of OFFICIAL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT > CENSORSHIP. > > The Roosevelt administration censored the > news, and the censored news became censored history. > > Can you tell me: when did the U.S. Government officially announce that > it would stop censoring the news, AND when did it release all of > the information that it held back from the American public? > > The answer is: there are still hundreds of thousands, perhaps > millions of World War II era documents that are still classified > or restricted from public examination in the archives of the U.S., > Russia, and other European countries. > > Your grasp of WW II history is nothing more than the Pavlovian > reaction to a propaganda cartoon painted for you by Harry > Hopkins, Alger Hiss, Henry Morganthau, and the other Commies > who operated Roosevelt. > > DBC > > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- > directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html > http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- At 01:07 AM 7/6/01 -0700, BB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Caveat Lector- > >Duh-uh! Pick on a word, and divert attention away from the main >point which was that fdr and the fedguv had firsthand reports of massive >deportation, concentration camps, and systematic murder of as many Jews >as the germans could process. > >So the word "holocaust" wasn't used in '41 -- SO WHAT?? >Does that mean it never happened??? What a clever rebuttal. > >Do not lose sight of the fact that Jews were not the only target >of the lunatic's ethnic cleansing. Jews served in the armed forces of the Third Reich all the way up to and including the rank of Field Marshall. How do you explain that? You're problem is that you don't know that World War II occurred under a regime of OFFICIAL UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT CENSORSHIP. The Roosevelt administration censored the news, and the censored news became censored history. Can you tell me: when did the U.S. Government officially announce that it would stop censoring the news, AND when did it release all of the information that it held back from the American public? The answer is: there are still hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of World War II era documents that are still classified or restricted from public examination in the archives of the U.S., Russia, and other European countries. Your grasp of WW II history is nothing more than the Pavlovian reaction to a propaganda cartoon painted for you by Harry Hopkins, Alger Hiss, Henry Morganthau, and the other Commies who operated Roosevelt. DBC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/2001 6:08:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << That is why Israel enjoys the unconditional support it gets from the world's Jews. That is not to say that it behaves properly. It doesn't. It behaves like a modern state. But if it comes down to brass tacks, we always want to have a place to go. It's a matter of survial. Not intellectual games for fat and sassy Americans and Europeans sitting safe at home. >> No, that is why Israel has enjoyed the basically unconditional support it has gotten from the United States and Europe. Everybody compensating for their own guilt. Israel behaves like all conquesting nations behave. I don't know whether I would consider that modern. It's not a matter of survival or a place to go. It's a matter of being able to take over and then taking it all. That is not unique to Israel. The American colonists did exactly the same thing in North America, and Spain and Portugal did a pretty fair job of it in South America. And of course Israel receives the support of American Jews. There's a little bit of guilt in that corner too. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- > flw wrote: > > The evidence indicates FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and > > did nothing; now it is clear he knew about the impending Holocaust > > and did nothing. Now we know what FDR really stands for: > > "F**king Dirty Rat." > > flw This might come as a news flash to YOU, but WE knew about it all the time. There was NO ONE who would, or could prevent the mass annihilation of the Jews in Christian Europe. J2 Rather facile, J2. Most aware folks know all about FDR. Too many Americans,especially US Jews, look upon FDR as some kind of Great Progressive. Ole Sanctimonious Eleanor especially causes them to swoon. Eleanor's letters were full of anti Semitic comments. FDR was a Fascist anti Semite. FDR, Churchill, Stalin, and Hitler...all peas in a pod. flw http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- Duh-uh! Pick on a word, and divert attention away from the main point which was that fdr and the fedguv had firsthand reports of massive deportation, concentration camps, and systematic murder of as many Jews as the germans could process. So the word "holocaust" wasn't used in '41 -- SO WHAT?? Does that mean it never happened??? What a clever rebuttal. Do not lose sight of the fact that Jews were not the only target of the lunatic's ethnic cleansing. Germans other than Jews - "undesirables" such as cripples, victims of MS and ALS, the mentally ill and retarded all qualified, as well as "gypsies" and catholic priests and nuns, in addition to others qualified as victims of 'der fuhrer' and his maniacal, sadistic butchers. Don't get round-shouldered from patting yourself on the back just because you looked it up in a reader's guide in a library. That's wonderful, but the "Duh-uh!" belongs to you for trying to pick a fight over a word instead of considering the idea the author conveyed in his original post. WHAT was your purpose in doing that? ___ "Damian B. Cooper" wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > At 07:05 PM 7/5/01 -0400, "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> > >> THE TIMES > >> WEDNESDAY JULY 04 2001 > >> > >> Allies 'were told of Holocaust in 1941' > >> > >> BY BEN MACINTYRE > >> > > Duh-uh! How could the Allies have been told of "the Holocaust" in 1941 > when the term wasn't in use until 1967. > > Go look it up in the "Readers Guide to Periodical Literature" in you library. > I did. > > DBC > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- At 07:05 PM 7/5/01 -0400, "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> THE TIMES >> WEDNESDAY JULY 04 2001 >> >> Allies 'were told of Holocaust in 1941' >> >> BY BEN MACINTYRE >> Duh-uh! How could the Allies have been told of "the Holocaust" in 1941 when the term wasn't in use until 1967. Go look it up in the "Readers Guide to Periodical Literature" in you library. I did. DBC http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FDR- Pearl Harbor and the Holocaust j2
-Caveat Lector- flw wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > The evidence indicates FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and > did nothing; now it is clear he knew about the impending Holocaust > and did nothing. Now we know what FDR really stands for: > "F**king Dirty Rat." > flw Starting to get a clue. Good. This might come as a news flash to YOU, but WE knew about it all the time. There was NO ONE who would, or could prevent the mass annihilation of the Jews in Christian Europe. That is why Israel enjoys the unconditional support it gets from the world's Jews. That is not to say that it behaves properly. It doesn't. It behaves like a modern state. But if it comes down to brass tacks, we always want to have a place to go. It's a matter of survial. Not intellectual games for fat and sassy Americans and Europeans sitting safe at home. J2 === > > THE TIMES > WEDNESDAY JULY 04 2001 > > Allies 'were told of Holocaust in 1941' > > BY BEN MACINTYRE > > BRITISH and American intelligence services knew of Nazi genocide plans months >earlier than previously thought, > according to a newly declassified document in the United States, but did not warn >Jews of the impending > Holocaust. > A report written in November 1941, obtained by British agents and passed to the US >in March 1942, stated > unequivocally that it had been decided to eradicate the Jews. > > Most historians had concluded that the West did not become aware of the Holocaust >until August 1942. The > information came from Gonzalo Montt Rivas, the Chilean consul in Prague, in a report >to his superiors in > Santiago. > > The consul described a German decree that Jews living abroad could no longer be >German subjects and that their > property would be confiscated by the Nazis. Then, interpreting the decree, he wrote: >"The German triumph (in > the war) will leave Europe freed of Semites. It has been decided to eradicate all >the Jews and send some to > Poland and others to the town of Terezin, while looking for a more remote place." > > The consul may have been working for German intelligence, despite his country's >neutrality, according to > Richard Breitman, chief historian for the government agency overseeing >declassification of wartime records at > the National Archives and Records Administration. > http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om