Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-15 Thread Mark S Bilk
-Caveat Lector-

I wrote an extensive analysis of the virus e-mails that came
through the CTRL list, but my message never shows up on
the list when I send it.  Kris tried several times to forward the
copy I sent to him, and he was also unable to post it.  Nor did
it ever appear in the list archive at:

   http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/maillist.html

Perhaps this is due to some kind of spam filtering gone wrong.

So I put it on my website so you all can read it.  Maybe one of
the following will show up as a clickable link.  If not, just use
your mouse to copy and paste the first one into the location
line of your web browser.

  http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002

  http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002";>http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/misc/VirusCTRL.002

Please Cc any questions and comments to me personally
as well as to the list.

Let's hope _this_ message gets through!

  Mark

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Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-14 Thread Jim S.
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On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:01:01PM -0700, Jim S. wrote:
>From: "MARTI MAURER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:44 PM
>2. ALL of Kris Milligan's posts which are *Fwd's* come BLANK (exc. for the
>CTRL disclaimer thingee, which is there).

<< Sounds like your ISP or your own software is removing e-mail
attachments.  See if you can switch that off. >>

Since when is content WITHIN the email compose box an "attachment"!???  But,
I will ask them; I've NO clue how to change it!  Thanks, Marti!

OH!  Missed that below (if it was there last time?)!  Thanks much!!

Jim

=
<< Or the sender address may not be spoofed, and may simply indicate
person A. >>

Not sure I understand that

<< In either case, the virus program in A's computer sends out e-mails on
its own, without any action by the user. >>

Have heard they do that!  But I have & run an up-to-date VAG et al.  And I
keep my addys in an innoucuously named txt file (& ALWAYS have!!).

<< So if a viral mail was sent to CTRL and appeared to come from Jim,
either Jim's computer is infected or someone else's computer is whose
addressbook contains the address of both Jim and CTRL. >>

The latter sounds like the likeliest culprit!?  How the hell does one track
these suckers down!???

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Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-14 Thread Mark S Bilk
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In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 
05:01:01PM -0700
Organization: http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/911

On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:01:01PM -0700, Jim S. wrote:
>From: "MARTI MAURER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:44 PM

>2. ALL of Kris Milligan's posts which are *Fwd's* come BLANK (exc. for the
>CTRL disclaimer thingee, which is there).

Sounds like your ISP or your own software is removing e-mail
attachments.  See if you can switch that off.

>From: "Jim S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I have sent NO post/s -- much less a file! -- to CTRL recently!!!
>> So whom is the "you" addressed???

A virus on person A's computer often selects addresses B and C
from A's e-mail addressbook, creates an infected message labelled
as coming from address B, and sends it to address C.

Or the sender address may not be spoofed, and may simply indicate
person A.

In either case, the virus program in A's computer sends out
e-mails on its own, without any action by the user.

So if a viral mail was sent to CTRL and appeared to come from Jim,
either Jim's computer is infected or someone else's computer is
whose addressbook contains the address of both Jim and CTRL.

>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:54 AM
>> Subject: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip
>>
>> > The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail
>> VirusWall could not clean it.

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Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-14 Thread Jim S.
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- Original Message -
From: "MARTI MAURER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:44 PM

<< Me neither, so it`s a good question. There have been a lot of these
lately.
What`s up?? >>

NO clue, Marti!!!  Figured you guys would know
I do have two problems that perhaps you'll be kind enough to help me with,
though???:

1. Back when I changed ISPs and resub'd to CTRL, I repeatedly tried via the
robomail /whatever to get it SET my subscpt'n to DIGEST... and kept getting
robomails insisting there's no such thing! -- exc. that there IS (It's still
on/in the list instructions!) AND I'd been getting it that way for many
years at my previous ISP as of less than a week prior, so...!??

2. ALL of Kris Milligan's posts which are *Fwd's* come BLANK (exc. for the
CTRL disclaimer thingee, which is there).

Any help/advice re:either of these issues would be MUCH appreciated!!

TIA,

Jim




- Original Message -
From: "Jim S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I have sent NO post/s -- much less a file! -- to CTRL recently!!!
>
> So whom is the "you" addressed???
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:54 AM
> Subject: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail
> VirusWall could not clean it.
> >
> > www.ctrl.org
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> > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!   These
are
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> > directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups
> with
> > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
> thought.
> > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
> > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
> > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
> >
> > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
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Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-14 Thread MARTI MAURER
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Me neither, so it`s a good question. There have been a lot of these lately.
What`s up??
- Original Message -
From: "Jim S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> I have sent NO post/s -- much less a file! -- to CTRL recently!!!
>
> So whom is the "you" addressed???
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:54 AM
> Subject: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip
>
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail
> VirusWall could not clean it.
> >
> > www.ctrl.org
> > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> > ==
> > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing
> propagandic
> > screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!   These
are
> > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
> > directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups
> with
> > major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
> thought.
> > That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
> > always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
> > credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
> >
> > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> > 
> > Archives Available at:
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> > Om
> >
> >
>
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> screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!   These are
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> directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups
with
> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
thought.
> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
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Re: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-14 Thread Jim S.
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I have sent NO post/s -- much less a file! -- to CTRL recently!!!

So whom is the "you" addressed???


- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:54 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail
VirusWall could not clean it.
>
> www.ctrl.org
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==
> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing
propagandic
> screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!   These are
> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
> directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups
with
> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
thought.
> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> 
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>
>

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[CTRL] Failed to clean virus file test.zip

2004-06-13 Thread postmaster
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The file you have sent was infected with a virus but InterScan E-Mail VirusWall
could not clean it.

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