Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-24 Thread Samantha L.

In a message dated 6/22/00 8:32:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and
  yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she
  realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually
  attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only
  option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery

  Of course.  Her appearance was her only attribute of note.  What possible
value could a woman have after the beauty of her prime?  Looks like all us
wimmin'-folk will be headin' for Jzus real soon.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-24 Thread Aleisha Saba

Hey Samwhat about some of these men - you go to bed at night with
Dr. Jekyell and wake up with Mr. Hyde?

Married 20 years and suddenly the guy like rabbit, wants to roam?   You
cannot tame wild things for too long.

Take you choiceDr. Jekyell or Mr. Hyde and when their personalities
fuse maybe you get a crazy mixed up kid for the rest of your life, like
Ted Turner.   Goodbye Rip Van Winkle - he sobered up.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread David Sutherland

What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion?

What's wrong with saying "sorry"?

Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine?


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 Yeah, she apologized a decade ago for this and the "patriots" called it
too
 little too late...now that she's a born-again Xian will it make a
 difference??? Should it
 It'll be fun to see if her religious beliefs effect opinion of others.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yeah, she apologized a decade ago for this and the
"patriots" called it too little too late...

Why couldn't she have a change of heart?  I personally know untold
numbers of people who during the 60s were radically opposed to the war,
who called for 'sharing the wealth' and promoted collectivism...

By the 1980s they were all yuppies, and voted for Reagan.  Many are now
officers of banks.


now that she's a born-again Xian will it make a difference???

Probably not.  What would all those rednecks with "I'm not Fonda Hanoi
Jane" bumperstickers do?


Should it

No.  Her religious beliefs are her own, and shouldn't have any bearing
one way or another on what she did a generation ago.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread William Shannon

What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion?

What's wrong with saying "sorry"?

Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine?


Dude, she already did her lil' mea culpa a decade ago...to the jeers of the far 
right...my point is that if her recent degradation...er, I mean conversion to hardcore 
Xianity makes her apology any more acceptable now than it was then...that's a weird 
standard...and the so-called "patriots" will have shown themselves to be a VERY fickle 
lot indeed.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread David Sutherland

I really can't follow your "logic" here?

It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns?

She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to change
her mind. (ggg)

Leaving that deranged, pukesome, "former" drunkard "husband", supporter of
totalitarian ideologies of hers, was maybe a step in the right direction,
and may have taken considerable personal courage to do so.

There appears to have been something in her personal life, that has
certainly jarred her former status quo lifestyle - I wish her well, and hope
she has chosen the right path.

 Who gives a crap about the mindless amalgam of "patriots" and the "far
right" - both are essentially stooges of the Vatican (ggg) and the papa that
dresses like mamma, and neither would have a clue as to what true
Christianity is about - all just butt heads and beavis's.


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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam


 What? She can't have a change of mind or opinion?

 What's wrong with saying "sorry"?

 Why shouldn't she express a "Xtian" opine?


 Dude, she already did her lil' mea culpa a decade ago...to the jeers of
the far right...my point is that if her recent degradation...er, I mean
conversion to hardcore Xianity makes her apology any more acceptable now
than it was then...that's a weird standard...and the so-called "patriots"
will have shown themselves to be a VERY fickle lot indeed.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 6/22/00 7:50:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 I really can't follow your "logic" here?

 It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns?

 She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to change
 her mind. (ggg) 


Man, am I speaking Farsi here???
I never faulted her for taking the stand that she did and I actually like the
fact that she had the stones to oppose the Vietnam war...my point is that she
ALREADY made her amends and that the loony right scoffed at her...so are they
now going to accept her apology since she's become a Son worshipper/Xian?
THAT'S my question and it's REALLY NOT that difficult!
Methinks there's a bit of hypocrisy on that end of the political spectrum and
if "becoming born-again" is the thing that makes her apology hold water now
with those who previously scoffed all I can do is LMFAO.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread David Sutherland

I prefer ancient Aramaic! ()

But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now a
"convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the
UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists and
the Far Right.

Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the end,
all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by
another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses"
to complete "the plan" of this "group"?

Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just
like in a good movie script?  (ggg)


- Original Message -
From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam


 In a message dated 6/22/00 7:50:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I really can't follow your "logic" here?

  It just seems like you want to fuck the woman any which way she turns?

  She's a femme after all, and hormonally, has a physiological urge to
change
  her mind. (ggg) 


 Man, am I speaking Farsi here???
 I never faulted her for taking the stand that she did and I actually like
the
 fact that she had the stones to oppose the Vietnam war...my point is that
she
 ALREADY made her amends and that the loony right scoffed at her...so are
they
 now going to accept her apology since she's become a Son worshipper/Xian?
 THAT'S my question and it's REALLY NOT that difficult!
 Methinks there's a bit of hypocrisy on that end of the political spectrum
and
 if "becoming born-again" is the thing that makes her apology hold water
now
 with those who previously scoffed all I can do is LMFAO.

 Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 6/22/00 8:15:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I prefer ancient Aramaic! () 

I like Cognac ;-)!!!


But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now a
"convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the
UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists and
the Far Right.

A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and
yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she
realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually
attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only
option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery

Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the end,
all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by
another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses"
to complete "the plan" of this "group"?

Super-intriguing proposition!!! A mega-grand(e) unified theory!
Maybe dude!!! Maybe!!


Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just
like in a good movie script?  (ggg)

Upon which her collegen-laden lip implanst will what...explode??? Or just
ooze??

Best,
Bill.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-22 Thread David Sutherland

ROTFLMAO!!!

Well, i think we lipo-sucked all the cosmetic fat outa that one!

I'll just go back and work on my Le-Grande Vaticanni Conspiratorium.

G'Day to ya!!!

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From: "William Shannon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam


 In a message dated 6/22/00 8:15:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I prefer ancient Aramaic! () 

 I like Cognac ;-)!!!


 But that's an interesting point you make - it is curious that she is now
a
 "convert" - and if I recall correctly, her 'husband' is a supporter of the
 UN, which is one of the great bogie man scapegoats of many Religionists
and
 the Far Right.

 A, she looks in the mirror and realizes that "time marches on"and
 yeah, Turner is a NWO/UN supporter...she was too most likely until she
 realized that his eye was more easily averted by wimmin' who were actually
 attractive in the HERE and NOW! At that point Jeeezus is the only
 option...one can have only so much cosmetic surgery

 Maybe their 'split' is somehow paradigmatic - perhaps like, and in the
end,
 all this N.W.O. conspiracy paranoia is only a convenient concoction by
 another more sinister "group" and only exists in the minds of the "masses"
 to complete "the plan" of this "group"?

 Super-intriguing proposition!!! A mega-grand(e) unified theory!
 Maybe dude!!! Maybe!!


 Well I'm sure in the end she, and they all, will kiss and make-up - just
 like in a good movie script?  (ggg)

 Upon which her collegen-laden lip implanst will what...explode??? Or just
 ooze??

 Best,
 Bill.

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[CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-21 Thread Bill Richer

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X DRUDGE REPORT X MON JUNE 19 2000 20:40:22 ET X

JANE FONDA REGRETS: POSING WITH ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUN IN 'NAM WAS 'THE MOST
HORRIBLE THING I COULD
POSSIBLY HAVE DONE'

In the second edition of 'O', Oprah Winfrey's new
magazine, Jane Fonda publicly admits regret for posing
with an anti-aircraft gun in North Vietnam in 1972.

"I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me
in an anti-aircraft carrier, which looks like I was
trying to shoot at American planes," Fonda tells the
mag.

"It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such
hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could
possibly have done. It was just thoughtless."

Fonda also talks about her recent turn to Christianity
-- and defends her estranged husband Ted Turner who is
on record as saying, "Christianity is for losers."

"Ted has read the Bible cover to cover, twice. He can quote Scripture better
than most
preachers."

Fonda tells 'O' that she now attends many churches in the Atlanta area --
notably the
Providence Missionary Baptist Church.

On the ending of her relationship with Ted:

"I changed probably more than he did, and we need to see what that means...
Whatever happens in
terms of our living arrangements, we will always be close."

Hitting newstands Tuesday.

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Re: [CTRL] Fonda sorry for taking pic in Vietnam

2000-06-21 Thread William Shannon

Yeah, she apologized a decade ago for this and the "patriots" called it too
little too late...now that she's a born-again Xian will it make a
difference??? Should it
It'll be fun to see if her religious beliefs effect opinion of others.

Bill.

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