[CTRL] Fw: PALESTINIANS, NOT ISRAELIS, KILLED THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY

2000-11-03 Thread J Taylor

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Arutz-7 news: PALESTINIANS, NOT ISRAELIS, KILLED THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY
31 October 2000

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/english/newspaper/news/fnews.htm
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/english/newspaper/news/fnews.htm
An IDF investigation and re-enactment appears to show conclusively that
the
12-year-old boy from Gaza, Muhammad al-Dura, was not shot by Israeli
soldiers
* but was rather the victim of a cruel plot staged by Palestinian
sharp-shooters and a television cameraman.

The incident in question occurred on Oct. 6, when the boy and his father
happened to be walking past the scene of a major battle between
Palestinian
snipers and Israeli soldiers. Former IDF sniper Yosef Doriel, who
initiated
the re-enactment, said that he had several reasons to suspect that it was
not the Israelis who shot the boy. "For one thing, the boy and his father
were hiding behind and to the left of a barrel that was between them and
the
Israeli forces," he told Arutz-7 today. "In the video clip, you see four
clean bullet holes to the side of them. These were not shot by the
Israelis
- they are 'clean' and full holes, not mere grazes that would have been
formed by the 30-degree angle of the Israelis - but rather by Palestinians
(stationed more directly in front of the father and son) to make sure that
the two would stay put. Suddenly, you see the boy lying down in his
father's
lap, with another bullet hole in the wall directly behind him - again, it
could not have come from the IDF position, which was behind the barrel and
to the side, but only from the Palestinian position, which was more
directly
in front of the father and son. This is the bullet that went through his
stomach and out of his back. At that point in the video, you can hear the
firing - but the Israeli position was far away! Rather, what happened was
that a Palestinian advanced to a spot very close to the photographer, and
shot the fatal shot. You can also notice that at that moment of the fatal
shots, the photographer suddenly 'shook' and the picture was blurred - a
signal that the shots came from close to him."
Doriel and a fellow physicist, Nachum Shachaf, proposed that O.C. Southern
Command Yom Tov Samiyeh oversee a re-enactment of the entire incident,
complete with the barrel and life-size dummies. Doriel concludes: "The
Palestinian forces staged the event. The Israelis were firing, for sure -
but the fatal shots came not from them, but from the Palestinian position
in
front of the boy, behind the cameraman."
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[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: PALESTINIANS, NOT ISRAELIS, KILLED THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY

2000-11-03 Thread Amelia

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This is exactly what I thought happened at the time!  There were far, far
too many kids in the streets mixed among the Palestinians, even those trying
to draw fire by throwing rocks.  I also saw the women shouting to news
reporter "Yes, I want to sacrifice my children to eliminate the Jews."  How
else could children do anything to the heavily armed Jewish forces other
than as sacrificial PR lambs?  It is the same as using them to clear mine
fields then screaming about the mines injuring innocent children.

Why does not the UN intervene in this use of children since that is a great
concern of theirs?  They should be condemning the use of these youngest of
human shields.

Also, despite the speculation, there is not yet one shred of evidence that
Israel was behind the bombing of the USS Cole but what fun some folks have
blaming them for everything that happens.  Show me proof!  But then so many
"just know" these things!  Yeah, sure you do.  I'd rather meet a Jew in a
dark alley as an Arab any time!  And I hope the British do not think those
British casualties we killed with our own misdirected "friendly fire" in the
Gulf War were deliberate.  I hope they can forgive us and not be dragging it
up over and over again at every chance like some are doing with the USS
Liberty, ad nauseum.
Our mistake was more recent and we should have had better technology and
intelligence. I can't remember if we killed 15 or 23 but those are the
numbers that come to my mind.  We are hardly in a position to "cast stones"
in this regard, no pun intended.

JMHO,
Amelia

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 Arutz-7 news: PALESTINIANS, NOT ISRAELIS, KILLED THE 12-YEAR-OLD BOY
 31 October 2000
 
 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/english/newspaper/news/fnews.htm
 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/english/newspaper/news/fnews.htm
 An IDF investigation and re-enactment appears to show conclusively that
 the
 12-year-old boy from Gaza, Muhammad al-Dura, was not shot by Israeli
 soldiers
 * but was rather the victim of a cruel plot staged by Palestinian
 sharp-shooters and a television cameraman.
 
 The incident in question occurred on Oct. 6, when the boy and his father
 happened to be walking past the scene of a major battle between
 Palestinian
 snipers and Israeli soldiers. Former IDF sniper Yosef Doriel, who
 initiated
 the re-enactment, said that he had several reasons to suspect that it
was
 not the Israelis who shot the boy. "For one thing, the boy and his
father
 were hiding behind and to the left of a barrel that was between them and
 the
 Israeli forces," he told Arutz-7 today. "In the video clip, you see four
 clean bullet holes to the side of them. These were not shot by the
 Israelis
 - they are 'clean' and full holes, not mere grazes that would have been
 formed by the 30-degree angle of the Israelis - but rather by
Palestinians
 (stationed more directly in front of the father and son) to make sure
that
 the two would stay put. Suddenly, you see the boy lying down in his
 father's
 lap, with another bullet hole in the wall directly behind him - again,
it
 could not have come from the IDF position, which was behind the barrel
and
 to the side, but only from the Palestinian position, which was more
 directly
 in front of the father and son. This is the bullet that went through his
 stomach and out of his back. At that point in the video, you can hear
the
 firing - but the Israeli position was far away! Rather, what happened
was
 that a Palestinian advanced to a spot very close to the photographer,
and
 shot the fatal shot. You can also notice that at that moment of the
fatal
 shots, the photographer suddenly 'shook' and the picture was blurred - a
 signal that the shots came from close to him."
 Doriel and a fellow physicist, Nachum Shachaf, proposed that O.C.
Southern
 Command Yom Tov Samiyeh oversee a re-enactment of the entire incident,
 complete with the barrel and life-size dummies. Doriel concludes: "The
 Palestinian forces staged the event. The Israelis were firing, for
sure -
 but the fatal shots came not from them, but from the Palestinian
position
 in
 front of the boy, behind the cameraman."
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