Re: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Below when I stated : "That State", I meant Mr. Blair's State, of course :) On the other hand, the Greek Government made a clear statement at the European Parliament lately saying they will not fight or otherwise hamper Turkey's candidacy into the EC from now on. Frans -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Prudence L. Kuhn Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 5:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED! -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 01/16/2000 4:22:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It isn't a secret for anybody that Turkey wants badly to be recognised as worthy to be a candidate and join the European Community. As The EC is considering the matter and this below is not a question on the ballot in regard of such candidacy, is this to say that the EC is considering accepting a fascist state in its club of nations? If the answer is yes one must argue then that the EC is on the fascist slope itself! I don't see this as a viable option to think about, not yet anyway, even though the fast disapearance of all kinds of rights and liberties since Mr. Blair 's Bilderberg approved policies are in the making. That State as it is a direct menace for democracy in Europe should never be accepted by the EC! This could of course be another decisive threshold into the appreciation of Europe being on that fascist slope or not! But this is an entire different debate. Nevertheless it sets the stage for the spirit in which Turkey wishes to rejoin this club of Nations. >> There's little doubt that Turkey is a true Democracy. That there is mistreatment of prisoners (both criminal and political) cannot be denied. That is, however, true of this country where it is done sneakily, but anyone who keeps track of things going on in our prisons and what was done to the McDougals, knows it is a fact here. Turkey will probably not be accepted into the European Union, but the real reason is that Greece will fight such acceptance, and Greece always wins. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- But isn't it the squeaky wheel that gets the Greece? I tend to think of Turkey as at the Bosphorus (although I do know it extends to the USSR/Iran borders to the East -- and have lived for several years in both parts). But, in light of the former, it is a Balkanian entity, though not in its entirety. Given this, I can't help wondering what levels of collusion there are amongst the regional powers. Cashing in on Ceyhan is one instance of possible "unfriendly" cooperation. A<>E<>R > There's little doubt that Turkey is a true Democracy. That there is > mistreatment of prisoners (both criminal and political) cannot be denied. > That is, however, true of this country where it is done sneakily, but > anyone who keeps track of things going on in our prisons and what was done > to the McDougals, knows it is a fact here. Turkey will probably not be > accepted into the European Union, but the real reason is that Greece will > fight such acceptance, and Greece always wins. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 01/16/2000 4:22:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It isn't a secret for anybody that Turkey wants badly to be recognised as worthy to be a candidate and join the European Community. As The EC is considering the matter and this below is not a question on the ballot in regard of such candidacy, is this to say that the EC is considering accepting a fascist state in its club of nations? If the answer is yes one must argue then that the EC is on the fascist slope itself! I don't see this as a viable option to think about, not yet anyway, even though the fast disapearance of all kinds of rights and liberties since Mr. Blair 's Bilderberg approved policies are in the making. That State as it is a direct menace for democracy in Europe should never be accepted by the EC! This could of course be another decisive threshold into the appreciation of Europe being on that fascist slope or not! But this is an entire different debate. Nevertheless it sets the stage for the spirit in which Turkey wishes to rejoin this club of Nations. >> There's little doubt that Turkey is a true Democracy. That there is mistreatment of prisoners (both criminal and political) cannot be denied. That is, however, true of this country where it is done sneakily, but anyone who keeps track of things going on in our prisons and what was done to the McDougals, knows it is a fact here. Turkey will probably not be accepted into the European Union, but the real reason is that Greece will fight such acceptance, and Greece always wins. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- It isn't a secret for anybody that Turkey wants badly to be recognised as worthy to be a candidate and join the European Community. As The EC is considering the matter and this below is not a question on the ballot in regard of such candidacy, is this to say that the EC is considering accepting a fascist state in its club of nations? If the answer is yes one must argue then that the EC is on the fascist slope itself! I don't see this as a viable option to think about, not yet anyway, even though the fast disapearance of all kinds of rights and liberties since Mr. Blair 's Bilderberg approved policies are in the making. That State as it is a direct menace for democracy in Europe should never be accepted by the EC! This could of course be another decisive threshold into the appreciation of Europe being on that fascist slope or not! But this is an entire different debate. Nevertheless it sets the stage for the spirit in which Turkey wishes to rejoin this club of Nations. With the post below one can ask what is Turkey's future and future government if these 'socialist revolutionaries' have THEIR way? As it always has been communism IS hard socialism and socialism IS soft communism whether we like it or not (even though they try hard to lean towards the center to avoid at all costs that simple truth). Communists themselves called each other socialists and the socialists sure still call each other 'komrads' and chant the communist mantra "The Internationale" at every possible socialist event and occasion. So, march like a duck, talk like a duck and chant like a duck.what do you think it IS? Not even to mention the possibility of a hidden 'integrist' agenda further under the overt socialist show. I do not condone, of course, any harsh inhumane treatment of prisoner or any other person for that matter, but as it stands promoting and pushing a foreign revolutionary agenda is illegal in almost all Nations. And for good reason as it guarantees the respect of Sovereignty between Nations, depite the assinine posture of the so called NWO and the UN (WTO, WB, IMF, FED Corp, et al.) of course portraying national sovereignty as 'obsolete'! The Globalist Agenda is for "State Inc.", NOT for us INDIVUDUAL Human Beings. Political democratic systems are made by and for People (Human Individuals) NOT for corporations, but they'd love that it would be more and more made by them for them. GOD forbid! Therefore, I support democratic universal right of any individual to be treated humanely and correctly in ANY circumtances, but the political agenda and actions of 'revolutionaries' of all sides for any reason should not remain unchecked. The Extreme Right (so called extreme convervators) wants also revolutionalize our societies. Education and knowledge into what one wishes to support is a must in this fast moving wide raging internet infancy. This DHKC remain very obscure to many of you I am sure as it is for me; this is propaganda using human lives as support; let us find out what this is all about before getting ourselves into blind support. Every story has 2 sides at best, and many sides very often. Our world has become so complex and interwingled that we must sift through the apparences before passing any judgment. I did that for the Globalist Agenda I talked about, as I started to study that in December 1998, and allow myself to talk about it only now!! And yes, I have a mirror next to me at all times. Thank you for your time, Frans -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Fw: URGENT ACTION IS REQUIRED! -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- -Original Message- From: Roger ROMAIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Fw: > >Roger ROMAIN >a/conseiller communal >B6180 COURCELLES > >sites web : http://www1.brutele.be/users/r.romain > http://www1.brutele.be/users/r.romain/enbref.html > >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >- Original Message - >From: "DHKC-INFORMATION CENTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "507" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "506" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >"503" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "501" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "50" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "49" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: "512" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "511" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "510" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "51" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "509" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "508" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, Ja
