Re: [CTRL] Fw: Yes, Virginia, there is a Cthulhu (fwd)

2000-03-09 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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 Oh, thank you, thank you, and thank you again, oh wise sage!  I am ever so
pleased to hear that Cthulhu does, indeed, exist and is merely waiting,
dead, though not dead, dreaming, and awaiting the stars to come right again!
Oh what a fine day that will be when the Earth is finally cleared and his
great shambling bulk will be freed again to roam the Earth creating madness
in what scant remains.
 I have my feeble faith restored.





 On Wed, 08 March 2000, Ric Carter wrote:

 
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  From: "M Straatmann" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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  Michael Straatmann - Circulation Services
  University of Nebraska-Lincoln Libraries
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -- Forwarded message --
 
  [Ed:  originally written by Steven Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and posted
  to alt.horror.cthulhu in April.  Reprinted with his permission]
 
  
 
  Dear Editor- I am 8 years old.  Some of my little friends say there is
  no Great Cthulhu.  Papa says, "If you see it on Alt.Horror.Cthulhu,
  it's so," Please tell me the truth, is there a Great Cthulhu who will
  rise from the watery depth of the Pacific to clear the Earth of all
  living things?  --Virgina Marsh
 
  Virgina, your little friends are wrong.  They have been affected by the
  fever of enlightenment given to them by a so-called "enlightened" age.
  They do not believe in anything unless it carries the weight of
  scientific authority.  They think that nothing can be which is not
  comprehensible by their little minds.  Reality is that which can be
  cataloged and measured, to be spooned out in rational doses to the
  common people.  All minds, Virgina, whether they be adult's or
  children's, are little.  In this vast chaos we laughingly call the
  universe, man is a mere insect, a bug, whose intellect has as much
  chance of grasping the whole truth, as an ant has of understanding
  non-Euclidian geometry.
 
  Yes, Virgina, there is a Great Cthulhu.  He exists as certainly as the
  cold unfeelingness of the cosmos exits, and you know that this
  meaninglessness abounds and gives to your life its highest absurdity.
  Alas!  how comfortable would be the world if there were no Cthulhu!  It
  would be as comforting as if a Santa Claus truly did care and reward
  children for doing good.  There would be childlike faith then, a world
  of sweet believable poetry and romance to make existence idyllic and
  appealing.  The external light with which childhood fills the world
  would never end.
 
  Not believe in the Great Cthulhu!  You might as well not believe in
  Hastur or the Necronomicon.  You might get your papa's science books
  and Skeptical Inquirers to see if Cthulhu is mentioned in any
  historical contexts or if R'lyeh truly does rest under the Pacific
  Ocean, but even if you did not find either mentioned in your 'holy'
  books, what would that prove?  Nobody sees or knows of Cthulhu, but
  that is no sign that there is no Great Cthulhu.  The most real things
  in the world are those that we can not know through the senses.  Can
  the headache of your friend be felt by you?  No, but his pain affects
  your life regardless.  Do you feel the angst of living a life you never
  wanted through any of your five senses?  No, yet the despair remains.
  Yet if such realities are known but are never seen, then why should
  other's ignorance of the unseen lead us to share in their blindness.  By
  what right have they earned your obedience?  Nobody can conceive of the
  inconceivable, including your leaders of thought.
 
  You tear apart the rattle of a baby to see what lies inside to make
  such noise, but the tiny balls there can not explain or illustrate the
  fear of a hostile world, that makes that baby clutch and shake that
  rattle so.  Only reaching for insanity can push aside the curtain of
  our hopes and view with stark madness the emptiness that lies beyond.
  Is that reality?  Is that the truth?  To give an answer is to replace
  the curtain with but one more.  And it is this, that makes the Great
  Cthulhu as true and as real as any veil we place on the chaos beyond.
  If one must create a meaning, why not the Great Cthulhu.  At least the
  choice is free.
 
  Thank Azathoth!  The Great Cthulhu lives and lives forever.  A thousand
  years from now, Virgina, nay 10 times 10,0

[CTRL] Fw: Yes, Virginia, there is a Cthulhu (fwd)

2000-03-08 Thread Ric Carter

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From: "M Straatmann" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Michael Straatmann - Circulation Services
University of Nebraska-Lincoln Libraries
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-- Forwarded message --

[Ed:  originally written by Steven Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and posted
to alt.horror.cthulhu in April.  Reprinted with his permission]



Dear Editor- I am 8 years old.  Some of my little friends say there is
no Great Cthulhu.  Papa says, "If you see it on Alt.Horror.Cthulhu,
it's so," Please tell me the truth, is there a Great Cthulhu who will
rise from the watery depth of the Pacific to clear the Earth of all
living things?  --Virgina Marsh

Virgina, your little friends are wrong.  They have been affected by the
fever of enlightenment given to them by a so-called "enlightened" age.
They do not believe in anything unless it carries the weight of
scientific authority.  They think that nothing can be which is not
comprehensible by their little minds.  Reality is that which can be
cataloged and measured, to be spooned out in rational doses to the
common people.  All minds, Virgina, whether they be adult's or
children's, are little.  In this vast chaos we laughingly call the
universe, man is a mere insect, a bug, whose intellect has as much
chance of grasping the whole truth, as an ant has of understanding
non-Euclidian geometry.

Yes, Virgina, there is a Great Cthulhu.  He exists as certainly as the
cold unfeelingness of the cosmos exits, and you know that this
meaninglessness abounds and gives to your life its highest absurdity.
Alas!  how comfortable would be the world if there were no Cthulhu!  It
would be as comforting as if a Santa Claus truly did care and reward
children for doing good.  There would be childlike faith then, a world
of sweet believable poetry and romance to make existence idyllic and
appealing.  The external light with which childhood fills the world
would never end.

Not believe in the Great Cthulhu!  You might as well not believe in
Hastur or the Necronomicon.  You might get your papa's science books
and Skeptical Inquirers to see if Cthulhu is mentioned in any
historical contexts or if R'lyeh truly does rest under the Pacific
Ocean, but even if you did not find either mentioned in your 'holy'
books, what would that prove?  Nobody sees or knows of Cthulhu, but
that is no sign that there is no Great Cthulhu.  The most real things
in the world are those that we can not know through the senses.  Can
the headache of your friend be felt by you?  No, but his pain affects
your life regardless.  Do you feel the angst of living a life you never
wanted through any of your five senses?  No, yet the despair remains.
Yet if such realities are known but are never seen, then why should
other's ignorance of the unseen lead us to share in their blindness.  By
what right have they earned your obedience?  Nobody can conceive of the
inconceivable, including your leaders of thought.

You tear apart the rattle of a baby to see what lies inside to make
such noise, but the tiny balls there can not explain or illustrate the
fear of a hostile world, that makes that baby clutch and shake that
rattle so.  Only reaching for insanity can push aside the curtain of
our hopes and view with stark madness the emptiness that lies beyond.
Is that reality?  Is that the truth?  To give an answer is to replace
the curtain with but one more.  And it is this, that makes the Great
Cthulhu as true and as real as any veil we place on the chaos beyond.
If one must create a meaning, why not the Great Cthulhu.  At least the
choice is free.

Thank Azathoth!  The Great Cthulhu lives and lives forever.  A thousand
years from now, Virgina, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will
continue to await the time when the stars are right again.  For with
those which eternal lie, with strange eons even death may die.

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Yes, Virginia, there is a Cthulhu (fwd)

2000-03-08 Thread tenebroust

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Oh, thank you, thank you, and thank you again, oh wise sage!  I am ever so pleased to 
hear that Cthulhu does, indeed, exist and is merely waiting, dead, though not dead, 
dreaming, and awaiting the stars to come right again!  Oh what a fine day that will be 
when the Earth is finally cleared and his great shambling bulk will be freed again to 
roam the Earth creating madness in what scant remains.
I have my feeble faith restored.





On Wed, 08 March 2000, Ric Carter wrote:


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 - Original Message -
 From: "M Straatmann" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 _
 Michael Straatmann - Circulation Services
 University of Nebraska-Lincoln Libraries
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -- Forwarded message --

 [Ed:  originally written by Steven Harris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and posted
 to alt.horror.cthulhu in April.  Reprinted with his permission]

 

 Dear Editor- I am 8 years old.  Some of my little friends say there is
 no Great Cthulhu.  Papa says, "If you see it on Alt.Horror.Cthulhu,
 it's so," Please tell me the truth, is there a Great Cthulhu who will
 rise from the watery depth of the Pacific to clear the Earth of all
 living things?  --Virgina Marsh

 Virgina, your little friends are wrong.  They have been affected by the
 fever of enlightenment given to them by a so-called "enlightened" age.
 They do not believe in anything unless it carries the weight of
 scientific authority.  They think that nothing can be which is not
 comprehensible by their little minds.  Reality is that which can be
 cataloged and measured, to be spooned out in rational doses to the
 common people.  All minds, Virgina, whether they be adult's or
 children's, are little.  In this vast chaos we laughingly call the
 universe, man is a mere insect, a bug, whose intellect has as much
 chance of grasping the whole truth, as an ant has of understanding
 non-Euclidian geometry.

 Yes, Virgina, there is a Great Cthulhu.  He exists as certainly as the
 cold unfeelingness of the cosmos exits, and you know that this
 meaninglessness abounds and gives to your life its highest absurdity.
 Alas!  how comfortable would be the world if there were no Cthulhu!  It
 would be as comforting as if a Santa Claus truly did care and reward
 children for doing good.  There would be childlike faith then, a world
 of sweet believable poetry and romance to make existence idyllic and
 appealing.  The external light with which childhood fills the world
 would never end.

 Not believe in the Great Cthulhu!  You might as well not believe in
 Hastur or the Necronomicon.  You might get your papa's science books
 and Skeptical Inquirers to see if Cthulhu is mentioned in any
 historical contexts or if R'lyeh truly does rest under the Pacific
 Ocean, but even if you did not find either mentioned in your 'holy'
 books, what would that prove?  Nobody sees or knows of Cthulhu, but
 that is no sign that there is no Great Cthulhu.  The most real things
 in the world are those that we can not know through the senses.  Can
 the headache of your friend be felt by you?  No, but his pain affects
 your life regardless.  Do you feel the angst of living a life you never
 wanted through any of your five senses?  No, yet the despair remains.
 Yet if such realities are known but are never seen, then why should
 other's ignorance of the unseen lead us to share in their blindness.  By
 what right have they earned your obedience?  Nobody can conceive of the
 inconceivable, including your leaders of thought.

 You tear apart the rattle of a baby to see what lies inside to make
 such noise, but the tiny balls there can not explain or illustrate the
 fear of a hostile world, that makes that baby clutch and shake that
 rattle so.  Only reaching for insanity can push aside the curtain of
 our hopes and view with stark madness the emptiness that lies beyond.
 Is that reality?  Is that the truth?  To give an answer is to replace
 the curtain with but one more.  And it is this, that makes the Great
 Cthulhu as true and as real as any veil we place on the chaos beyond.
 If one must create a meaning, why not the Great Cthulhu.  At least the
 choice is free.

 Thank Azathoth!  The Great Cthulhu lives and lives forever.  A thousand
 years from now, Virgina, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will
 continue to await the time when the stars are right again.  For with
 those which eternal lie, with strange eons even death may die.

 (From Editorial Page, Arkham Advertiser, 1928)

 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A
 DECLARATION  DISCLAIMER
 ==
 CTRL is a discussion  informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
 screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soap-boxing!  These are sordid matters
 and