Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Massive Intelligence Failure -j2

2001-09-12 Thread Nurev Ind.

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Amelia wrote:

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 I am confused for here we have this post claiming massive
 intelligence failure and one just before it quoting Tenant
 predicting this so accurately as to be suspicious.  Linda's post
 does prove that there was no intelligence failure and congress was
 warned but ignored it.

Even if this were true, and I doubt that it was, it would still
constitute a massive intelligence failure. There is always someone to
go to. They could have leaked to the media.

This was cause to get rid of CIA and the whole rotten system and rebuild
from the ground up. The CIA is obviously too busy overthrowing independent
countries which are not amenable to global capitalism to fulfill their
primary directive of protecting the country.

 There has been a movement under way by the
 likes of the Church Committee to decimate the intelligence
 agencies.

That was thirty years ago. But a new Church committee wouldn't hurt.

 We can't have it both ways.  Either we want them or we
 do not.  We cannot tie their hands with excessive regulations and
 continually cut funding and ignore what they tell us and then blame
 them and claim they failed.  We have the weakened agencies we
 demanded.

What the hell kind of gibberish are you babbling about. The Intelligence
community is WAY over funded. And if that's not enough, they have their
private businesses to earn extra bucks. If you know what I mean.


 And how will we know when this attack is over for these same
 agencies have told that there are weapons already in place, also
 ignored.  If they are used, guess tat will constitute another
 'failure' but it is the failure of congress to listen and act upon
 the information they are given.

They couldn't get it together enough to protect the Pentagon. If you
can't understand the implication of this, take up a different hobby.

J2

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Massive Intelligence Failure

2001-09-11 Thread Kris Millegan





A Massive Intelligence Failure 
 
 
Amidst the carnage and horror of today's attack on America there can 
be room in our hearts right now only for prayers for the dead and 
compassion for the living, hundreds of whom, we are beginning to 
learn, have bodies completely and massively burned from head to toe. 
When Peter Jennings impatiently dismissed an ABC Pentagon analyst's 
foray into theorizing about possible declarations of war, I cheered 
him—for once—for rightly insisting that Grief precede Retribution. 

But we all know this will very quickly change.

For myself, I cannot get out of my mind the image of an anonymous man 
in white pants dangling out the window of the 97th (or so) floor of 
one of the Twin Towers. We couldn't even see his face, because of the 
distance and the smoke, and for once I was grateful for an MTV-like 
shaky-cam effect that had more to do with the honest human emotions 
of an anonymous cameraman than any postmodern cinegraphic trendiness.

I didn't want to know too much about that dangling man in white 
pants. He was soon to be dead. And I didn't want any close-ups of his 
face showing with horrifying detail whether he already knew it.

But as the acrid smoke of burning flesh lifts there will be more than 
a whiff of Revenge in the air. And before the finger of retribution 
begins pointing over there, I want to point mine in another 
direction-- towards something over here.

Surprisingly, NBC anchor Brian Williams—yes, he of the oft-remarked 
unnatural tan—gave voice to it first.

There will be many people asking tonight, he stated, right over the 
public airwaves, just what it is we are getting for all those tens 
of billions of dollars being spent on intelligence.

Here here. 

(The only real news you get about anything really big, stated a 
journalist of my acquaintance, comes in the first 24 hours, before 
they can get the cover-up mechanism in place.)

So, before I forget, I'd like to send a bottle of Man Tan over to 
Brian Williams' table, for blurting a truth on national television.

After writing a recent book about the tawdry corruption surrounding 
the career of one of America's most famous CIA agents, who was also 
and not coincidentally the most successful drug smuggler in history, 
I feel compelled to blurt out a similar question...

Has the endemic corruption in our national intelligence services 
contributed to—or even in some sense been responsible for—leaving us 
helpless before this national tragedy?

 Could the truth really be as sordid as a statement I heard from a 
former NSA operative about the huge US intelligence operation in 
South America called Operation Condor?

Operation Condor was the result of years of careful planning 
designed to take over an entire hemisphere, he had stated, matter-of-
factly, the conquest and then plundering of an entire, nearly 
virgin, continent, for the benefit of the American intelligence 
operatives involved in the operation.

Anyone who has brushed up against the minions of this nation's 
clandestine services these past few decades cannot have failed to 
notice their pocket-lining preoccupation with gunrunning and massive 
financial fraud; the unpunished looting of America's Savings and 
Loans, to cite one example.

Not to mention the narcotics trafficking. (Paging Colin Powell; pick 
up a white courtesy telephone in the Lima Aero Porto, please.)

Did the cretins with an obsession to increase their market share in 
the illicit narcotics industry—Plan Colombia, to give it its formal 
name—keep them from doing the job we are all paying them to do?

Are the guardians of our country's national security apparatus too 
preoccupied these days with looting the system to waste their time on 
drudgery which doesn't positively affect their Cayman Island's 
accounts? 

The brutal reality of American life entering the 21st Century was 
faced almost 2000 years ago by the citizens of Rome, when they looked 
with despair at the corrupt and swaggering Praetorian Guard which had 
made a mockery of their once-proud Republic, and asked out loud the 
question that echoes down to us across the centuries...

Who will guard the guards?

In one of the ironies of which history is so full, two days ago the 
New York Times ran an article headlined The Bin Laden Movie: Oh 
Those Wicked Arabs!

Hey, I'm human. As our pitifully inadequate President might pitifully 
put it, I'd like to kick some Arab ass too.

But as I sit in front of my television with the rest of my countrymen 
today, I am thinking about none of that; I am riveted in horror, as 
you are, while I  watch helplessly, wondering if the cameras caught 
that man in white pants on the 97th floor loosen his grip on the 
ledge, and free-fall 100 stories, like so much human confetti. 


--
--

Daniel Hopsicker is the author of  Barry  `the boys;' The CIA, the 
Mob  America's Secret History. 


[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Massive Intelligence Failure

2001-09-11 Thread Amelia

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I am confused for here we have this post claiming massive
intelligence failure and one just before it quoting Tenant
predicting this so accurately as to be suspicious.  Linda's post
does prove that there was no intelligence failure and congress was
warned but ignored it.  There has been a movement under way by the
likes of the Church Committee to decimate the intelligence
agencies.  We can't have it both ways.  Either we want them or we
do not.  We cannot tie their hands with excessive regulations and
continually cut funding and ignore what they tell us and then blame
them and claim they failed.  We have the weakened agencies we
demanded.

And how will we know when this attack is over for these same
agencies have told that there are weapons already in place, also
ignored.  If they are used, guess tat will constitute another
'failure' but it is the failure of congress to listen and act upon
the information they are given.




~Amelia~

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