Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-13 Thread Jude Andreas
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And just who or what stands to gain if a realfull-scale war is ignited
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[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of       Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Kris Millegan
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Rarey
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And just who or what stands to gain if a real full-scale war is 
ignited
 
Lucifer!
 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More 
Beheadings of Americans
-Caveat Lector Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:"CBS to 
Provoke More Beheadings of Americans  ...a warning from Joint Chiefs 
Chairman Richard B. Myers that it would provoke the killing of 
Americans in Iraq.  CBS was pouring  "gasoline on the 
fire".=Nakano 
replies;Has it occurred to anyone that this is preciselythe 
intent?"Pouring gasoline on the fire" is what is being done.First we are 
shown the pictures of the abuse of Iraqiprisoners by Americans.  Now we 
are shown thisbeheading video.Does it not occur to anyone that some 
unseen hand ismanipulating all this to inflame the hatred andpassions on 
all sides?  If you wanted to ignite a realwar between the Islamic vs 
non-islamicworld.wouldn't you pour gasoline on the fire usingthe 
very kind of horrors we are seeing every night 
ontelevision? "Showing the video might convince many 
Americans of the need to confront and destroy 
Islamic killers." I sure couldcouldn't it? Do you 
suppose this is exactly why they are showing the 
video"? And just who or what stands to gain if a 
real full-scale war is 
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Jim Rarey
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That's the only logical explanation.
 
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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More 
Beheadings of Americans
-Caveat Lector Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "CBS to 
Provoke More Beheadings of Americans  ...a warning from Joint Chiefs 
Chairman Richard B. Myers that it would provoke the killing of 
Americans in Iraq.  CBS was pouring  "gasoline on the 
fire".=Nakano 
comments:Has it occurred to anyone that this is preciselythe intent? 
Pouring gasoline on the fire is what isbeing done.  First the pictures 
of the abuse of Iraqiprisoners.  Now this beheading video.Does it 
not occur to anyone that some unseen hand ismanipulating all this to inflame 
the hatred andpassions on all sides?  If you wanted to ignite a 
realwar between the Islamic vs non-islamicworld.wouldn't you pour 
gasoline on the fire usingthe very kind of horrors we are seeing every night 
ontelevision? "Showing the video might convince many 
Americans of the need to confront and destroy 
Islamic killers." I sure couldcouldn't it? Do you 
suppose this is exactly why they are showing the 
video"?__Do 
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Nakano Nakamura
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--- Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans
  ...a warning from Joint Chiefs Chairman
 Richard B. Myers that it would provoke the killing
 of Americans in Iraq.  CBS was pouring  "gasoline on
 the fire".
=
Nakano replies;
Has it occurred to anyone that this is precisely
the intent?
"Pouring gasoline on the fire" is what is being done.
First we are shown the pictures of the abuse of Iraqi
prisoners by Americans.  Now we are shown this
beheading video.
Does it not occur to anyone that some unseen hand is
manipulating all this to inflame the hatred and
passions on all sides?  If you wanted to ignite a real
war between the Islamic vs non-islamic
world.wouldn't you pour gasoline on the fire using
the very kind of horrors we are seeing every night on
television?

 "Showing the video might convince many Americans
 of the need to confront and destroy Islamic
 killers."
 I sure couldcouldn't it?
 Do you suppose this is exactly why they are
 showing the video"?

 And just who or what stands to gain if a real
 full-scale war is ignited










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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Nakano Nakamura
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--- Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 "CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans
  ...a warning from Joint Chiefs Chairman
 Richard B. Myers that it would provoke the killing
 of Americans in Iraq.  CBS was pouring  "gasoline on
 the fire".
=
Nakano comments:
Has it occurred to anyone that this is precisely
the intent? Pouring gasoline on the fire is what is
being done.  First the pictures of the abuse of Iraqi
prisoners.  Now this beheading video.
Does it not occur to anyone that some unseen hand is
manipulating all this to inflame the hatred and
passions on all sides?  If you wanted to ignite a real
war between the Islamic vs non-islamic
world.wouldn't you pour gasoline on the fire using
the very kind of horrors we are seeing every night on
television?

 "Showing the video might convince many Americans
 of the need to confront and destroy Islamic
 killers."
 I sure couldcouldn't it?
 Do you suppose this is exactly why they are
 showing the video"?









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[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] FW: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

2004-05-12 Thread Kris Millegan
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From: Odell Harwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:39 PM
To: Harwell, Odell
Subject: CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

May 11, 2004
CBS to Provoke More Beheadings of Americans

Calling CBS the "unpatriotic" network, Chris Core of WMAL radio in
Washington, D.C. has been urging listeners to email the CBS 60 Minutes II
program in protest of its plan to air another broadcast about abuse of Iraqi
prisoners. The program aired one show on the matter, featuring photos of the
abuse, despite a warning from Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard B. Myers that it
would provoke the killing of Americans in Iraq. That came to pass with the
Berg beheading. The program now claims to have "exclusively obtained an
American soldier's home video from Camp Bucca in Southern Iraq and Abu
Ghraib in Baghdad" and that the video "shows a young soldier's disdain for
the Iraqi prisoners." She says: "We've already had two prisoners die...but
who cares? That's two less for me to worry about." The show will air on
Wednesday night.

On his radio show tonight, Core said CBS was pouring "gasoline on the fire"
and putting "salt in the wound" after having provoked the beheading of
American Nick Berg. Core conducted a poll on the WMAL web site asking if
people thought that the complete video of the beheading should be aired, in
light of the fact that CBS and other media have run the photos of American
soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners. The results are that 90 percent want it
shown, while only 10 percent were opposed.

Showing the video might convince many Americans that the media feeding
frenzy over the Iraqi prisoner abuse story might be overblown, and that the
real story is the need to confront and destroy Islamic killers determined to
destroy our nation.
But on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather tonight, the Berg video was not
shown in its entirety. "The pictures are horrifying," said Rather. But he
wouldn't let the viewers see them. "CBS is not going to show the worst of
it," he said. Correspondent David Hawkins showed the al Qaeda members
standing over Berg and pushing him down in preparation for the kill.  "The
rest is too gruesome to show," said Hawkins.

Isn't this "censorship?"

So CBS is willing to air the photos and videos that make America look bad,
but the video that shows the nature of the enemy we face cannot be aired.
You can contact the program by going to this site and scrolling down,
clicking on "contact us" and going to 60 Minutes II.

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