Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andy Griffith for years during Clinton's terms, sold religious records.and this woman that sings Amazing Grace and I am gettiong so sick of that song the way it is abused and used by heathens..this was meant for the Scottish Bagpipes, as in the one Star Trek movie - that is what popularized this old song - No, I'd say Judy Collins' Top Ten rendition a decade before did more to popularize the song...she sold millions of copies of the record, and still sings it in concert because of its popularity... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No
-Caveat Lector- Would rather hear Slim Whitman sing "Blanca Colombe".white dove is it? Nice song to suicide to - Tired of country singers who sing through nose and scream and shout and think they are Maria Callas? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:37:30 -0500 Damaeus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500, Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on the six o'clock news in the cities, too. I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Damaeus So don't buy these products if you don't like their religious affiliations. It's a free country. Do you want them to ban religious advertising a la Communist Russia? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- There is also a general resistance to any more gun laws in the whole west (except California of course). I concur that the 'school shootings' were highly publicized in order to promote ever more rigid gun laws. By highly publicizing the first 1 or 2, the media actually CAUSED the rest. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:26:34 -0800 Tenorlove [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- --- Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that much of the most sensational school violence has occurred in Bible Belt states, The school shootings are a set up to condition the public to accept disarmament. Most of the resistance to same has been in Bible Belt states. They have the most liberal gun laws, too. The sensationalism is NOT accidental. Tenorlove A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- They are doing it here in Oregon too. Funny, but I was wondering if this is a subtle ad campaign to promote christianity and the republican party. Gee, could they be that devious? On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:37:30 -0500 Damaeus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500, Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on the six o'clock news in the cities, too. I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Damaeus A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ves/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send emaiFrom fuzzy22 From: fuzzy22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PCL] POLL: Pardon Clinton? References: 3A61C4DD.29174.3A074AE@localhost X-Status: Unsent On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:25:17 -0600 "kl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KL: That's because most of the sheeple are out dreaming in=20 the fields and still believe they are being protected=20 from the bad guys by the LEA's and the legal system. I=20 think most folks will never realize how close we are to=20 a total police state until someone they know personally=20 gets robbed by the state for little more than being=20 alive. But I have confidence that eventually enough=20 eyes will be opened that critical mass will be=20 achieved. I hope to live to see it.=20=20 More people than you may realize are becoming aware of the "State of the Union". KL: I like the idea of changing the state constitution -=20 here in Oklahoma I think a state rep has introduced a=20 bill to ease the forfeiture laws, but I haven't seen=20 the details. A constitutional amendment would be a=20 stronger solution no doubt.=20 I find it reprehensible that it takes a Constitutional Amendment to secure what should be obvious: You can't take away a person's property unless you convict them of a crime, or unless you compensate them for the taking. The Police State is backed by teh Judicial System. Another reason that I do not want Ashcroft in office. p has introduced a=20 bill to ease the forfeiture laws, but I haven't seen=20 the details. A constitutional amendment would be a=20 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No
-Caveat Lector- On 15 Jan 01, at 8:59, Johannes Schmidt III wrote: So don't buy these products if you don't like their religious affiliations. It's a free country. Do you want them to ban religious advertising a la Communist Russia? As usual, I think you missed the point. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No
-Caveat Lector- Well remember Slim Whitman selling records? And that guy, well it was said he was number 1 in England.and little old ladies liked him. Andy Griffith for years during Clinton's terms, sold religious records.and this woman that sings Amazing Grace and I am gettiong so sick of that song the way it is abused and used by heathens..this was meant for the Scottish Bagpipes, as in the one Star Trek movie - that is what popularized this old song - Spock died and the bagpipes played Amazing Grace speaking of Spock, have this information - according to old Funk and Wagnall, people from Wales had greenish skin years ago and to this day if you eat Welsh Rare Rabbit, it enhances your psychic abilityso it was recorded So you don't see Catholic Priests, etc., much on TV begging for money - only Jimmy Swaggart, Tammy and Bobby Baker was it, and poor old Oral Roberts but he did build a university, old ORU and has done a lot of good - and then we have World Harvest Church - So the big sell on religious music? To make fast buck...even Box Car Willie got into the act.and note country western always considers religious music important. Now the Masons - when they play Nearer My God to Thee - it is time to duck... So music today is full of satanic symbolism and they sing of murdering whitey...hey, we need some form of self defense and even in the bible they say to sing the psalms.. Maybe this is why all during the night at the Josephiniium (in Columbus, answers directly to the Pope) why they pray and sing during the night attempting to ward off demons in the night and they pray for the safety of those who hope to awaken to another day - some do not. Strange nobody ever notices the garbage music they are feeding the kids - programming them for what? Years ago there was a song "We're Not Going to Take it Anymore" where a weirdo kid knocked his father out a window = really cute stuff like that. So some of these music makers are political propagandists..there is music in the air all the time, and you hear it even if you do not listen - t is engraved in your mind on an unsuspecting public. So Take Me Home Country Roads -and that was when Jay Rockefeller was trying to lure men back to reopen a few mines.. Always liked that Yes We Got No Bananas..this is what we sing in American today .. money for Bill and Hill and billions to Israel, but yes - we got, no bananas. We gave them all away. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- I was really disturbed to learn on last night's NBC-TV 11 o'clock news that the father of one of the victims of the Columbine shooting had spoken in Saratoga Springs, NY to an audience of 2,000 yesterday. In that speech he derided the separation between church and state, insisting it had no constitutional basis, and promoted Jesus and Christianity as the solution to situations such as the violence at Columbine high. Saratoga is a relatively small community and 2,000 is quite a turnout. I am wondering what the reaction was to the proposed solutions to violence. (IT does seem to me that the majority of Americans do already practice some form of Christianity, so why isn't it working? And would enforced Christianity work better? Considering that much of the most sensational school violence has occurred in Bible Belt states, it would seem not...but that is a ratiional deduction and this does not seem rational to me.) Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on the six o'clock news in the cities, too. sno0wl A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500, Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on the six o'clock news in the cities, too. I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Damaeus A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- Damaeus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. I think it's already been done, but I'd have to double-check. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- --- Marilyn Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that much of the most sensational school violence has occurred in Bible Belt states, The school shootings are a set up to condition the public to accept disarmament. Most of the resistance to same has been in Bible Belt states. They have the most liberal gun laws, too. The sensationalism is NOT accidental. Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:05:29 EST, William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: Transcripts made available today of attorney general-nominee John Ashcroft's speech at Bob Jones University in 1999 demonstrates the former Senator's contempt for the nation's religious liberties, according to Americans United for Separation of Church and State. In the speech, Ashcroft said that America has "no king but Jesus." Isn't this becoming dangerous? How many times in history have people invited themselves to be the interpretor and arbiter of God's laws and principles, only to end up killing thousands or even hundreds of thousands, thinking he's doing the work of God? Hitler believed he was doing the work of God. Of course, how do we know he wasn't? After all, look at all the disembodied spirits that would have been rising from the ashes of the holocaust. "Ashcroft obviously believes the United States is a Christian nation," continued Lynn. "He is woefully misinformed. Our Constitution guarantees unqualified religious liberties for each of us, regardless of our beliefs. The fact that Ashcroft rejects this basic principle should be startling to all Americans of good conscience. Well, he just wanted to say something that he thinks will get him support from all the Christians who would like hearing such a thing -- people who want to see a man in a postion of political power make everybody behave and act according to the Bible. Damaeus A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 12, 2001 Americans United for Separation of Church and State Contact: Joseph Conn or Rob Boston 202-466-3234 202-466-2587 fax www.au.org ASHCROFT SPEECH AT BOB JONES UNIVERSITY DEMONSTRATES CONTEMPT FOR CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES CHRISTIAN NATION SPEECH SHOULD DISQUALIFY NOMINEE, SAYS AMERICANS UNITED FOR SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE Transcripts made available today of attorney general-nominee John Ashcroft's speech at Bob Jones University in 1999 demonstrates the former Senator's contempt for the nation's religious liberties, according to Americans United for Separation of Church and State. In the speech, Ashcroft said that America has "no king but Jesus." "Clearly, John Ashcroft's speech shows that he has little or no appreciation for the constitutional separation of church and state," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. "For a nominee for U.S. attorney general to state that we have 'no king but Jesus,' is completely unacceptable. In the United States, it is the Constitution that serves as the basis for laws and national life, not one faith tradition. "This speech demonstrates the John Ashcroft is completely unqualified to serve as attorney general," Lynn added. "The Senate must reject his nomination. "Ashcroft obviously believes the United States is a Christian nation," continued Lynn. "He is woefully misinformed. Our Constitution guarantees unqualified religious liberties for each of us, regardless of our beliefs. The fact that Ashcroft rejects this basic principle should be startling to all Americans of good conscience. "His comments serve as a grievous insult to religious minorities," Lynn added. "It shows he does not have the temperament to serve as the chief law enforcement officer of the United States." Also troubling were Ashcroft's remarks praising Bob Jones University, a school with a history of religious and racial bigotry. During his recent campaign, Ashcroft suggested that he was unfamiliar with the institution that awarded him an honorary degree. However, during his 1999 visit, he praises the university, thanking God for its very existence, and then lauding the school's commitment to the principles they share. "This is rank dishonesty," Lynn concluded. "Senators looking for evidence that undermines Ashcroft's claims of honesty and integrity need look no further than this smoking gun." Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization represents 60,000 members and allied houses of worship in all 50 states. -- -- FOR INFORMATION ON STOP ASHCROFT ACTIONS IN YOUR AREA CHECK: www.StopAshcroftNow.org -- -- Beth Corbin National Grassroots Organizer Americans United for Separation of Church and State 518 C Street, N.E. Washington, D.C. 20002 PH: 202-466-3234 FAX: 202-466-2587 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.au.org
