Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On

1999-02-09 Thread Sno0wl

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On 7 Feb 99, , nurev wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Kris Millegan wrote:
> >
> >   --
> >
> > Subject: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
> > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:10:46 EST
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >  "... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices
> > and embrace the prospect of becoming infected.
> >  "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to
> > Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek
> > to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing")
> > or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..."
> >  (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.)
> >
> > "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties
> >
> >  Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts
> >
> >  by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer
> >  San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999
> >
> >  In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee
> > promises a night of communal gay sex.  The only rules: no
> > clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV.
> >  Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of
> > nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is
> > emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with
> > HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the
> > deadly AIDS virus.
>
> This is living proof that Darwin was right. This insane behavior
> will not likely get passed on to their offspring proving that
> survival of the fittest includes mental as well as physical traits,
> while condom using safe sex practitioners will more likely reproduce
> condom using offspring.
>
> Isn't nature great?

In one sense, of course, you're right. On the other hand, it sounds like these guys are
feeling just like Brian Redmansick of it all and tired of caringsick of living 
with
constant fear that strips life of joy and spontaneity. (And no, I don't mean Brian 
when I
speak of constant fear.)

I grew up in an era when sex was tied to unwanted pregnancy--not death. It really
wasn't THAT long ago, but the world will never know such innocence again.

Now everything --sex, food, water, air--is tainted with death. I am so grateful not to 
be a
young person or to have young children in such times.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On

1999-02-08 Thread nurev

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Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>   --
>
> Subject: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:10:46 EST
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  "... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices
> and embrace the prospect of becoming infected.
>  "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to
> Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek
> to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing")
> or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..."
>  (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.)
>
> "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties
>
>  Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts
>
>  by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer
>  San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999
>
>  In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee
> promises a night of communal gay sex.  The only rules: no
> clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV.
>  Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of
> nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is
> emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with
> HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the
> deadly AIDS virus.

This is living proof that Darwin was right. This insane behavior
will not likely get passed on to their offspring proving that
survival of the fittest includes mental as well as physical traits,
while condom using safe sex practitioners will more likely reproduce
condom using offspring.

Isn't nature great?

Joshua2

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[CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On

1999-01-31 Thread Kris Millegan





 "... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices
and embrace the prospect of becoming infected.
 "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to
Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek
to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing")
or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..."
 (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.)


"Russian Roulette" Sex Parties

 Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts

 by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer
 San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999


 In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee
promises a night of communal gay sex.  The only rules: no
clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV.
 Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of
nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is
emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with
HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the
deadly AIDS virus.

 For years, AIDS experts have been concerned about the growth
of a practice known as ``barebacking,'' where condoms are
abandoned, usually based on assumptions that partners are both
HIV positive or both negative.
 Now a fringe element, linked by the Internet, is taking it
even further.
 Web sites are offering lists of "extreme sex" party sites
where the prospect of becoming infected or of infecting others is
part of the erotic allure.
 At a "Russian roulette party" set for next month in Houston,
a posting seeks three healthy men to have sex with five other
men. Four of those must be HIV negative, but the fifth is already
infected with the AIDS virus.

 Only a tiny fraction of gay men are believed to frequent
such venues.  Even so, many veteran AIDS activists, who
championed the "safer sex" ethic that has checked the spread of
the AIDS virus since the mid-1980s, are disturbed by the trend.
 "More than anger, I find it heartbreaking and tragic," said
Daniel Zingale, executive director of AIDS Action of Washington,
D.C., the nation's most powerful AIDS lobby.
 New research from San Francisco confirms that an increasing
number of gay men are having sex with multiple partners, and
without the protection of condoms.
 Yesterday, the federal Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention reported that among men who have anal sex with other
men, the portion of men who did so without condoms rose to 39
percent in 1997, from 30 percent in 1994.  Rates of sex with more
than one partner also rose, and of those engaged in the riskiest
practices, 68 percent did not know whether their partner was
infected with the AIDS virus.
 "Groups of men engaging in high-risk sex with multiple
partners, that is the kind of behavior that caused the epidemic
to explode," said Robert Perez of the Stop AIDS Project in San
Francisco.
 The practice of barebacking has been fiercely debated in the
gay community for several years.  But nothing is creating quite
the stir as the lastest issue of POZ, a glossy monthly magazine
brimming with ads for AIDS drugs, featuring a sympathetic
portrayal of the barebacking phenomenon.

 The cover features a handsome gay model, Tony Valenzuela,
resting naked atop a black stallion.  While the story describes
the plight of Valenzuela as an outcast in the San Diego gay
community for publicly advocating barebacking, the photos and
graphic images portray a glamorous, sexy new icon.
 "The cover photo definitely turns him into a sex object.  I
understand people's criticisms," said POZ editor-in-chief Walter
Armstrong. "We wanted to provoke people.  We're willing to take
the heat for that."
 But AIDS Action's Zingale finds this "bareback chic"
appalling.
 "Anything that glamorizes putting your own health at risk is
irresponsible and threatens to unravel all our progress," he
said.
 POZ, which has a modest national circulation of 130,000 is
not just trying to sell magazines, said Armstrong. "It's not that
we wanted to defend barebacking," he said. "We wanted to try to
give a fair, and considered, and nonjudgmental analysis of why
this is taking place ...  We want to see less condemnation of it
as a behavior, and more discussion about why gay men are wanting
to stop using condoms."
 The subculture of barebacking is explored in depth in a
second POZ article "A Ride on the Wild Side," by San Francisco
free-lance journalist Michael Scarce.  It uncritically explores
the methods and motives of men who have rejected condoms and are
having unprotected sex in organized venues.  It includes a visit
to the Castro "Bareback House" and an account of what goes on
inside.
 Scarce, 28 years old and HIV-negative, describes a
subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices, and
in some cases, are embracing the prospect of becoming infected.
 Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to
Rotterdam advertise group sex par