Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
-Caveat Lector- On 7 Feb 99, , nurev wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > Kris Millegan wrote: > > > > -- > > > > Subject: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On > > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:10:46 EST > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices > > and embrace the prospect of becoming infected. > > "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to > > Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek > > to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing") > > or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..." > > (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.) > > > > "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties > > > > Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts > > > > by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer > > San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999 > > > > In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee > > promises a night of communal gay sex. The only rules: no > > clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV. > > Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of > > nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is > > emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with > > HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the > > deadly AIDS virus. > > This is living proof that Darwin was right. This insane behavior > will not likely get passed on to their offspring proving that > survival of the fittest includes mental as well as physical traits, > while condom using safe sex practitioners will more likely reproduce > condom using offspring. > > Isn't nature great? In one sense, of course, you're right. On the other hand, it sounds like these guys are feeling just like Brian Redmansick of it all and tired of caringsick of living with constant fear that strips life of joy and spontaneity. (And no, I don't mean Brian when I speak of constant fear.) I grew up in an era when sex was tied to unwanted pregnancy--not death. It really wasn't THAT long ago, but the world will never know such innocence again. Now everything --sex, food, water, air--is tainted with death. I am so grateful not to be a young person or to have young children in such times. sno0wl DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan wrote: > > -- > > Subject: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On > Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:10:46 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices > and embrace the prospect of becoming infected. > "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to > Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek > to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing") > or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..." > (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.) > > "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties > > Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts > > by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer > San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999 > > In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee > promises a night of communal gay sex. The only rules: no > clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV. > Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of > nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is > emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with > HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the > deadly AIDS virus. This is living proof that Darwin was right. This insane behavior will not likely get passed on to their offspring proving that survival of the fittest includes mental as well as physical traits, while condom using safe sex practitioners will more likely reproduce condom using offspring. Isn't nature great? Joshua2 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
"... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices and embrace the prospect of becoming infected. "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing") or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..." (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.) "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999 In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee promises a night of communal gay sex. The only rules: no clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV. Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the deadly AIDS virus. For years, AIDS experts have been concerned about the growth of a practice known as ``barebacking,'' where condoms are abandoned, usually based on assumptions that partners are both HIV positive or both negative. Now a fringe element, linked by the Internet, is taking it even further. Web sites are offering lists of "extreme sex" party sites where the prospect of becoming infected or of infecting others is part of the erotic allure. At a "Russian roulette party" set for next month in Houston, a posting seeks three healthy men to have sex with five other men. Four of those must be HIV negative, but the fifth is already infected with the AIDS virus. Only a tiny fraction of gay men are believed to frequent such venues. Even so, many veteran AIDS activists, who championed the "safer sex" ethic that has checked the spread of the AIDS virus since the mid-1980s, are disturbed by the trend. "More than anger, I find it heartbreaking and tragic," said Daniel Zingale, executive director of AIDS Action of Washington, D.C., the nation's most powerful AIDS lobby. New research from San Francisco confirms that an increasing number of gay men are having sex with multiple partners, and without the protection of condoms. Yesterday, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that among men who have anal sex with other men, the portion of men who did so without condoms rose to 39 percent in 1997, from 30 percent in 1994. Rates of sex with more than one partner also rose, and of those engaged in the riskiest practices, 68 percent did not know whether their partner was infected with the AIDS virus. "Groups of men engaging in high-risk sex with multiple partners, that is the kind of behavior that caused the epidemic to explode," said Robert Perez of the Stop AIDS Project in San Francisco. The practice of barebacking has been fiercely debated in the gay community for several years. But nothing is creating quite the stir as the lastest issue of POZ, a glossy monthly magazine brimming with ads for AIDS drugs, featuring a sympathetic portrayal of the barebacking phenomenon. The cover features a handsome gay model, Tony Valenzuela, resting naked atop a black stallion. While the story describes the plight of Valenzuela as an outcast in the San Diego gay community for publicly advocating barebacking, the photos and graphic images portray a glamorous, sexy new icon. "The cover photo definitely turns him into a sex object. I understand people's criticisms," said POZ editor-in-chief Walter Armstrong. "We wanted to provoke people. We're willing to take the heat for that." But AIDS Action's Zingale finds this "bareback chic" appalling. "Anything that glamorizes putting your own health at risk is irresponsible and threatens to unravel all our progress," he said. POZ, which has a modest national circulation of 130,000 is not just trying to sell magazines, said Armstrong. "It's not that we wanted to defend barebacking," he said. "We wanted to try to give a fair, and considered, and nonjudgmental analysis of why this is taking place ... We want to see less condemnation of it as a behavior, and more discussion about why gay men are wanting to stop using condoms." The subculture of barebacking is explored in depth in a second POZ article "A Ride on the Wild Side," by San Francisco free-lance journalist Michael Scarce. It uncritically explores the methods and motives of men who have rejected condoms and are having unprotected sex in organized venues. It includes a visit to the Castro "Bareback House" and an account of what goes on inside. Scarce, 28 years old and HIV-negative, describes a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices, and in some cases, are embracing the prospect of becoming infected. Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to Rotterdam advertise group sex par