Re: [CTRL] Howard: Baseless accusations
-Caveat Lector- Edward Britton wrote: Yes, I believe, based on what I have read and have heard from Libertarian pundits, that Libertarians subscribe to the same basic philosophies as Republicans with respect to government. The only possible exception, again, according to my experience and research, is that Libertarians are more closely aligned with anarchy than fascism. *** Republicans, in general, advocate both economic and social interventions. Libertarians advocate neither. That seems to me to be a rather greater difference then you would indicate above. In a recent discussion with a very liberal friend of mine he asked me for my definition of fascism. I replied that it was a system of government which does not own the means of production (as in communism) but controls these businesses and society in general through regulation. He agreed with me on this. What is your definition of fascism? Both groups seek a rationalization for an otherwise socially heinous subscription to social Darwinism. *** Please define what you mean by social Darwinism. I have never heard a libertarian say that they were a social Darwinist. Yes, I have labored through Mein Kamph, and I also realize that there is only an ideological difference at best between Hitler's "form of government" and that proposed, in-practice, by Republicans and Libertarians. This is especially true in regard to the need for political scapegoats (e.g., the homeless or welfare recipients) and scapegoating (e.g., stereotyping). *** The need for scapegoats is a form of government? You mean like the Department of Scapegoating? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Howard: Baseless accusations
-Caveat Lector- Howard: In any discussion of conspiracies, individual political beliefs are bound to come into question as each member of a debate seeks the agendas of his or her opponent. What you have observed today is a fine example of such a calling-to-task. Yes, I believe, based on what I have read and have heard from Libertarian pundits, that Libertarians subscribe to the same basic philosophies as Republicans with respect to government. The only possible exception, again, according to my experience and research, is that Libertarians are more closely aligned with anarchy than fascism. Both groups seek a rationalization for an otherwise socially heinous subscription to social Darwinism. Yes, I have labored through Mein Kamph, and I also realize that there is only an ideological difference at best between Hitler's "form of government" and that proposed, in-practice, by Republicans and Libertarians. This is especially true in regard to the need for political scapegoats (e.g., the homeless or welfare recipients) and scapegoating (e.g., stereotyping). As for threats, I openly invite you to cite just one example of a case where I directly threatened anybody. Were anybody to be guilty of any type of implied threat, it would be exemplified by Hawk's invitation for me, personally, to engage him in a battle over the protection of his almighty "stuff." A quick review of the facts and threads in this regard would be advisable before you accuse anyone of inciting terrorism! Nonetheless, I am aware of the logical and historically supported result of life in a society where there is such callous disregard for those of either end of an economic continuum. The result has heretofore been--and will be again--revolution. This is not a threat, sir, it is a fact. Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Howard: Baseless accusations
-Caveat Lector- Edward Britton wrote: Howard: Yes, I believe, based on what I have read and have heard from Libertarian pundits, that Libertarians subscribe to the same basic philosophies as Republicans with respect to government. You need to go back to the books, my ill-read friend. The only possible exception, again, according to my experience and research, is that Libertarians are more closely aligned with anarchy than fascism. You're closer to the truth in this statement. Yes, I have labored through Mein Kamph, and I also realize that there is only an ideological difference at best between Hitler's "form of government" and that proposed, in-practice, by Republicans and Libertarians. This is especially true in regard to the need for political scapegoats (e.g., the homeless or welfare recipients) and scapegoating (e.g., stereotyping). Hardly... Libertarians have no need for scapegoats... It just isn't our responsibility that some people don't have homes and jobs. And apparently it isn't yours, either... Since your form of compassion is to fund your feelings toward "the poor" with someone else's money. As for threats, I openly invite you to cite just one example of a case where I directly threatened anybody. I don't think you have the cajunas to directly threaten anyone...not that I advise it. Were anybody to be guilty of any type of implied threat, it would be exemplified by Hawk's invitation for me, personally, to engage him in a battle over the protection of his almighty "stuff." Not so, fella... I didn't invite anyone to engage me in battle over my stuff... My preference is for you to leave my stuff alone.. and me too. I do mention again, that individuals trying to take my "stuff" will have a lot poorer chance of success without the govm't backing them up. There is not threat to you from me, as long as you don't initiate any violence toward me. Keep your greedy paws off my "stuff" and you don't worry about me threatening you. A quick review of the facts and threads in this regard would be advisable before you accuse anyone of inciting terrorism! Kinda back-peddling there ain't you? You have made several "veiled threats" about what "the poor" are going to do to us when they "come for our stuff." Nonetheless, I am aware of the logical and historically supported result of life in a society where there is such callous disregard for those of either end of an economic continuum. The result has heretofore been--and will be again--revolution. This is not a threat, sir, it is a fact. And my opinion of that is, Sir, "Let the games begin!" Hawk DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
