Re: [CTRL] Implant Removal

2000-01-19 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 1/19/00 2:02:37 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> MC discussion issue: Are these reports of mind control implants/removals an
>  example of: (1) MILAB - military abductions; (2) delusion/fraud; (3)
>  something off-planet; (4) Other (specify).??
>  Comments?  alfred
>

Personally I take the stance that the so-called implants that have been
removed are, in fact, nothing but normal growths under the skin.  I have yet
to see a real implant removed under conditions that would assure me that what
is there is a "real" implant that has been removed from someone's body.
Having said that I DO believe that such implant exist, and that they are
being used for some purpose.  I believe the technology employed is completely
terrestrial and that the implantation, collation of data, etc. is done by the
Military Industrial Complex and their myriad Federal Agencies, and partners
in the "private business" world.

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[CTRL] Implant Removal

2000-01-18 Thread earthman

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MC discussion issue: Are these reports of mind control implants/removals an
example of: (1) MILAB - military abductions; (2) delusion/fraud; (3)
something off-planet; (4) Other (specify).??
Comments?  alfred

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 http://www.cninews.com/Search/CNI.1109.html

 IMPLANT REMOVAL SUBJECTS DISCUSS AFTER-EFFECTS

 [CNI News thanks Eve Frances Lorgen, M.A. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for permission
to
 reprint portions of her longer article titled "Alien Implant Removals: Five
 Abductees Discuss Before and After Effects." The entire text of Lorgen's
 article is posted at http://users1.ee.net/pmason/el.html. CNI News also
 thanks Patricia Mason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) for bringing this information to our
 attention.]
 (Sept 1, 1998) -- Several years after the surgical removal of alleged alien
 implants, five individuals agreed to discuss "before and after effects"
with
 researcher Eve Frances Lorgen. All five surgery subjects, one male and four
 females, have in common the experience of UFO encounters and apparent
 contact with non-human alien beings.

 Background: Dr. Roger Leir, a podiatrist from Thousand Oaks, California and
 co-founder of FIRST (Fund for Interactive Research and Space Technology),
 and Derrel Sims, a certified hypnotherapist , co-founder of FIRST and
 experienced UFO Investigator of over 27 year, together orchestrated the
 successful surgeries with a team of competent medical professionals and
 volunteers.

 The first set of "implant" surgeries took place on August 19, 1995 at Dr.
 Roger Leir's podiatry clinic in Thousand Oaks, California. The subjects
were
 Pat Parrinello, a 47 year old male from Houston, Texas, and Mary Jones (a
 pseudonym) 52, also from Texas. Both individuals were investigated by
Derrel
 Sims and referred to Dr. Roger Leir for surgery, based on their past UFO
 encounters and X-rays which confirmed anomalous objects in their bodies.
 Pat's object was removed from the back of his left hand, and Mary's objects
 excised from her left big toe. All services were performed free of charge.

 A second set of implant surgeries took place on May 18, 1996. Two women
from
 this second group came forward for this follow-up study. Dorothy O'Hara, a
 61 year old female from Palm Springs, California, and Alice Leavy, 40, from
 Newberry Park, California, each had similar objects removed from their left
 lower leg. [A man in this second group who had a metallic object removed
 from the tissue below his lower left jaw did not participate in this
 follow-up study. -- ed.]

 Another woman, Licia Davidson, 37, who has had numerous UFO encounters, had
 a crystalline-like object removed from her foot in January of 1997.

 [Laboratory studies of the removed objects are ongoing. Meanwhile, it is
now
 possible for the surgery subjects to reflect upon changes they have
observed
 in themselves that seem to be related to the implant removals. One subject,
 Pat Parrinello, has previously spoken out on possible changes and
 discomforts associated with implant removal. See "Search CNI News" at
 http://www.cninews.com/CNI_Search.html, keyword Parrinello.]

 In the following text, Eve Frances Lorgen reports on her interviews with
the
 implant removal subjects:

 Scientific evaluation is our best ally, but the experiences and opinions of
 the courageous individuals involved in these implant surgeries are equally
 important. A series of simple questions were posed to each of the
 participants. When asked how and when their implants might have been
 inserted, Pat Parrinello from Houston, Texas believed his implant could
have
 been inserted during a UFO encounter he had in 1954, at six years of age.
 Mary Jones recalls two UFO encounters when her metallic objects could have
 been implanted, in 1969. "In the first frightening UFO encounter," Mary
 commented, "I was on a camping trip with my family while pregnant with my
 third child." Oddly enough, one month after Mary's child was born, she had
 another alien encounter while at home during the night.

 Dorothy O'Hara from Palm Springs, California and Licia Davidson from Sierra
 Madre California both replied, "I have no idea when the object was
 inserted." Alice Leavy commented that she first noticed the lump on her leg
 following a UFO encounter involving other witnesses in San Diego, in 1993.
 "I actually noticed the lump," Alice clarified, "when I discovered the
scoop
 mark also on my left leg, after the UFO encounter."

 If the alien "abductors" are responsible for implanting objects in the
 bodies of their abductees, then are the aliens cognizant of the fact that
 the implants have been removed? The next question was posed: "Did you
 experience any UFO sightings, alien abductions, odd dreams, missing time or
 paranormal events just prior to, or (within a month) after the implant
 surgery?"

 Pat Parrinello revealed, "Yes, an unusual set of events took place with
 another witness involvi