Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
In a message dated 05/16/2000 5:43:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << different genetics. Observation. Eg Jews mostly blood type B and Arabs nearly all type O. Just read Col James Churchward and you will see way back when, that Arabs have proved to have originally come from India and then formerly Lemuria. >> I was told that most American http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > In a message dated 05/15/2000 9:37:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > I don't subscribe to Koranic definitions since I am not a Moslem. The Book is > the Torah, the original Bible, the source of the Koran and NT. The Jewish > national myth. That book. >> > > Well God forbid that we don't all rely on only one "source." IT IS THE SOURCE. I referred to the people of THE BOOK. You brought in someone else's interpretation of that phrase which changed the meaning. I cited the source of that meaning. That's all. > It wouldn't do > to think that anyone who is not a student of the Torah could have intelligent > thought. Who the hell suggested that. This is your personal trip. I never suggested such a foolish notion. > A long time ago I told a guy who thought a lot like you do that I > didn't think God would penalize anyone for failing to find just the right > splinter group with which to worship. Whatever qualities you may find in > your God, mine is not a bigot. Prudy Hey Prudy wake up. It's no secret that I am an atheist and this your god, my god crap, is moronic to me. Joshua2 PS: I don't know who your god is, but I bet your god IS a bigot. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
In a message dated 05/15/2000 9:37:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't subscribe to Koranic definitions since I am not a Moslem. The Book is the Torah, the original Bible, the source of the Koran and NT. The Jewish national myth. That book. >> Well God forbid that we don't all rely on only one "source." It wouldn't do to think that anyone who is not a student of the Torah could have intelligent thought. A long time ago I told a guy who thought a lot like you do that I didn't think God would penalize anyone for failing to find just the right splinter group with which to worship. Whatever qualities you may find in your God, mine is not a bigot. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
On Tue, 16 May 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: > Nicky Molloy wrote: > > > > Saddam Hussein was developing a virus that targets Jews.Just as the Israelis > > were developing one that targets Iraqis. > > How right you are. What you need to be is a geneticist instead. > You must be kidding. Go to Israel sometime and try to differentiate between > similarly dressed Jews and Arabs. Bull's eye. Now if there ain't no unique Jew genes and there ain't no unique Jew ideology, what do you have left? THE BAGEL! FWP. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
Nicky Molloy wrote: > > Saddam Hussein was developing a virus that targets Jews.Just as the Israelis > were developing one that targets Iraqis. How do you know this? Are you in with the Mossad and the the Iraqi secret police? I'm not kidding. How do you know the above statements are true? >You are slipping Josh, this is old > from 2 years ago. Not looking in the right places? It may be old, but is it true? I remember the stories. You seem to forget that you are dealing with the Middle East where pomp and posturing count as a valid form of communication. Way before they had it, the Israelis put out rumors that they had the BOMB. It was good for Israel to have everyone think that. Want to guess why??? Saddam was using the most simple and inexpensive terror weapons against his foreign and domestic enemies. Yet somehow you find it plausible that his scientists could pull off creating a biological weapon so sophisticated, that it could cause mass death in mixed populations BY ONLY MAKING THE ENEMY SUSCEPTIBLE. If this is a practical possibility in your mind, PLEASE PLEASE tell me what you consider Implausible. > If Jews and Arabs are > the same genetic stock, why is it that there are a lack of Arabs involved in > discovering much of the science, psychology, medicine we know today? Because their culture has become irrelevant ( except as a religion ) to the modern age, due to its rigidity. I would remind you though, that it was this very culture whose genius and brilliance pulled Europe out of the Dark Ages. > Oh > right reincarnation. Prob saving the money for the education - or maybe its > the diet? You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see they have completely > different genetics. How right you are. What you need to be is a geneticist instead. You must be kidding. Go to Israel sometime and try to differentiate between similarly dressed Jews and Arabs. > Observation. Eg Jews mostly blood type B and Arabs > nearly all type O. Just read Col James Churchward and you will see way back > when, that Arabs have proved to have originally come from India and then > formerly Lemuria. And then before that Olympia and before that Freedonia and before that the twelfth planet. > > Nicky > [Not entirely lacking critical skills, as accused] PS: Keep working on those critical faculties Nicky. Joshua2 > > -Original Message- > From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, 16 May 2000 13:37 > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study > > "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > > > According to the Koran, the "people of the book" refers to Moslems, > > Christians and Jews. > > > > I don't subscribe to Koranic definitions since I am not a Moslem. The Book > is > the Torah, the original Bible, the source of the Koran and NT. The Jewish > national myth. That book. > > > Does this mean the Israeli will give up looking for a virus that targets > > Palestinians? > > > > Prudy > > They already got that virus. It was sent to them by ex-CIA director John > Deutch who secretly works for the Israelis, along with Cohen and Albright. > > How do you know Israelis are looking for a virus that targets Palestinians? > It sounds like Arab propaganda to me. One would assume that if it were true, > the scientists involved would know enough about genetics to understand that > to target Mideast Arabs, and Palestinians in particular with a special virus > would be suicidal since they are virtually the same genetic stock and live > among the Israelis. > > No concept too foolish in feeding you pet peeves eh? > > It's interesting what absurdities people choose to believe. And > illuminating. > > Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
Saddam Hussein was developing a virus that targets Jews.Just as the Israelis were developing one that targets Iraqis. You are slipping Josh, this is old from 2 years ago. Not looking in the right places? If Jews and Arabs are the same genetic stock, why is it that there are a lack of Arabs involved in discovering much of the science, psychology, medicine we know today? Oh right reincarnation. Prob saving the money for the education - or maybe its the diet? You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see they have completely different genetics. Observation. Eg Jews mostly blood type B and Arabs nearly all type O. Just read Col James Churchward and you will see way back when, that Arabs have proved to have originally come from India and then formerly Lemuria. Nicky [Not entirely lacking critical skills, as accused] -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, 16 May 2000 13:37 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > According to the Koran, the "people of the book" refers to Moslems, > Christians and Jews. > I don't subscribe to Koranic definitions since I am not a Moslem. The Book is the Torah, the original Bible, the source of the Koran and NT. The Jewish national myth. That book. > Does this mean the Israeli will give up looking for a virus that targets > Palestinians? > > Prudy They already got that virus. It was sent to them by ex-CIA director John Deutch who secretly works for the Israelis, along with Cohen and Albright. How do you know Israelis are looking for a virus that targets Palestinians? It sounds like Arab propaganda to me. One would assume that if it were true, the scientists involved would know enough about genetics to understand that to target Mideast Arabs, and Palestinians in particular with a special virus would be suicidal since they are virtually the same genetic stock and live among the Israelis. No concept too foolish in feeding you pet peeves eh? It's interesting what absurdities people choose to believe. And illuminating. Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > According to the Koran, the "people of the book" refers to Moslems, > Christians and Jews. > I don't subscribe to Koranic definitions since I am not a Moslem. The Book is the Torah, the original Bible, the source of the Koran and NT. The Jewish national myth. That book. > Does this mean the Israeli will give up looking for a virus that targets > Palestinians? > > Prudy They already got that virus. It was sent to them by ex-CIA director John Deutch who secretly works for the Israelis, along with Cohen and Albright. How do you know Israelis are looking for a virus that targets Palestinians? It sounds like Arab propaganda to me. One would assume that if it were true, the scientists involved would know enough about genetics to understand that to target Mideast Arabs, and Palestinians in particular with a special virus would be suicidal since they are virtually the same genetic stock and live among the Israelis. No concept too foolish in feeding you pet peeves eh? It's interesting what absurdities people choose to believe. And illuminating. Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
Yup They're going to HAVE to give it up, because if they target the Palestinians they'll be targeting themselves as well... As Hillel put it about the time of Jesus, when challenged to sum up the Scriptures "while standing on one leg," "That which is hateful to yourself, do not do to others. That is the whole of the Law and the Prophets. The rest is commentary--go and learn it." - Original Message - From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 11:25 AM Subject: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study > According to the Koran, the "people of the book" refers to Moslems, > Christians and Jews. > > Does this mean the Israeli will give up looking for a virus that targets > Palestinians? > > Prudy > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Jewish Gene Study
According to the Koran, the "people of the book" refers to Moslems, Christians and Jews. Does this mean the Israeli will give up looking for a virus that targets Palestinians? Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins
And a irrational fear of things jewish, gee kinda of like the nazis, hmm . . ? MHO Om K In a message dated 5/12/00 2:46:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Hey! Nurev -- you'd better get all those sections on the Khazar conversions > >out of the Jewish Encyclopedea's quick, if you expect everyone to forget > >about it. Also, gene studies are like Big Network Public Opinion Polls, >or > >piltdown man, there is nothing proven about any of it yet, and whatever >is > >being put out now has to be scrutinized but good before any conclusions >are > >drawn. I don't even know what you're referring to because your reference >was > >cryptic, but I will be eager to see Mike Hoffman's analysis. Jim Condit >Jr. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins
Jim Condit Jr wrote: > > Hey! Nurev -- you'd better get all those sections on the Khazar conversions > out of the Jewish Encyclopedea's quick, if you expect everyone to forget > about it. The conversions happened, but they are statistically irrelevant. I don't expect everyone to forget about it. I expect the racists to squirm. The Jewish encyclopedia didn't have access to this information when it was written, and encyclopedias are always being updated for that reason. But it's nice to see that you put so much credence in what the Jewish encyclopedia says. > Also, gene studies are like Big Network Public Opinion Polls, Not quite buddy. > or > piltdown man, Piltdown was faked. I understand why you would like this to be fake too. There is no reason to assume that it is at this point in time. This method is being used all over the world by many different scientific interests. > there is nothing proven about any of it yet, and whatever is > being put out now has to be scrutinized but good before any conclusions are > drawn. Absolutely true. But since the Khazar theories and the British Israel theories were absurd to begin with and based on nothing more than Christian wishful thinking, your skepticism about this method shows what a hypocrite you are. You showed no scientific skepticism towards them even though there is NO evidence at all to back them up. > I don't even know what you're referring to because your reference was > cryptic, but I will be eager to see Mike Hoffman's analysis. Jim Condit Jr. I'm sure you will. Why don't you post his analysis. He's always good for a laugh. Joshua2 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Nurev Ind Research > > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:24 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins > > > > > > "Robert F. Tatman" wrote: > > > > > > So we learn at least two things: the Genesis account of Abraham > > as father of > > > both Isaac and Ishmael has true in more than just a spiritual > > sense; and all > > > of the hypotheses about British Israel, the Khazars, mongrel > > races, etc., > > > are proven to be just what I have always maintained--purest nonsense. > > > = > > > > I think that I'll take some credit here too. From the first week this list > > started I have been dealing this subject and have presented the case now > > verified by genetics. > > > > Where is Michael Hoffman now? Where is Poley and the other > > Christians whose > > intent it was to replace the Jews as the people of the book? > > > > The intent here was evil. > > > > Joshua2 > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins
Hey! Nurev -- you'd better get all those sections on the Khazar conversions out of the Jewish Encyclopedea's quick, if you expect everyone to forget about it. Also, gene studies are like Big Network Public Opinion Polls, or piltdown man, there is nothing proven about any of it yet, and whatever is being put out now has to be scrutinized but good before any conclusions are drawn. I don't even know what you're referring to because your reference was cryptic, but I will be eager to see Mike Hoffman's analysis. Jim Condit Jr. > -Original Message- > From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Nurev Ind Research > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 7:24 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins > > > "Robert F. Tatman" wrote: > > > > So we learn at least two things: the Genesis account of Abraham > as father of > > both Isaac and Ishmael has true in more than just a spiritual > sense; and all > > of the hypotheses about British Israel, the Khazars, mongrel > races, etc., > > are proven to be just what I have always maintained--purest nonsense. > > = > > I think that I'll take some credit here too. From the first week this list > started I have been dealing this subject and have presented the case now > verified by genetics. > > Where is Michael Hoffman now? Where is Poley and the other > Christians whose > intent it was to replace the Jews as the people of the book? > > The intent here was evil. > > Joshua2 > > > > > > http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2509/tech_diaspora.html > > > > Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins > > > > By Discovery.com News > > > > May 9, 2000 - A genetic analysis of Jewish populations has revealed new > > clues about their Middle Eastern origins and new details about > how the group > > spread throughout the world, according to today's New York Times. > > The findings suggest that despite the fact that they dispersed > out of Israel > > over 2,000 years ago, Jews have remained remarkably faithful to "the > > tribe" - there has been little interbreeding with other groups. > > > > Also challenged are claims that the Jewish population is > largely composed of > > outside groups who converted to the faith. > > > > The results also suggest that, out of all other groups in the > world, Jews > > are most closely related to Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, > with whom > > they descended from a common population 4,000 years ago. > > > > The findings, which were published in today's issue of the > Proceedings of > > the American Academy of Sciences, were reported in the New York Times. > > > > The study, which was led by Michael F. Hammer of the University > of Arizona, > > compared the chemical sequence of the Y chromosome among men > worldwide. The > > Y chromosome, which contains the genes that make men men, is passed down > > from father to son in more or less intact form. > > > > As a result, examining its genes paints an almost unbroken > picture of one's > > paternal heritage. Genes in the Y chromosome do change over time among > > different groups, however, so comparing the Y chromosomes of distinct > > populations provides a window into how closely they are related. > > > > Based on these comparisons, Hammer identified 19 main > variations in the Y > > chromosome worldwide, according to the New York Times. Jews and Arabs > > descended from a group that shared eight of these lineages. > > > > This ancestral Arab-Jewish population, in turn, may have > descended from the > > neolithic groups who first developed farming in the Near East. > > > > Hammer closely examined the DNA of Ashkenazi Jews, who settled in large > > numbers throughout Europe. Despite having been surrounded by > non-Jews for 80 > > generations, the rate of genetic mixture with Europeans was only half a > > percent per generation, according to Hammer. > > > > "It could be that wherever Jews were, they were very much > isolated," Hammer > > told the New York Times. > > > > > > Robert F. Tatman > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Jenkintown, PA, USA > > "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg > > "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards > > > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > > == > > CTRL is a discussion &a
Re: [CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins
"Robert F. Tatman" wrote: > > So we learn at least two things: the Genesis account of Abraham as father of > both Isaac and Ishmael has true in more than just a spiritual sense; and all > of the hypotheses about British Israel, the Khazars, mongrel races, etc., > are proven to be just what I have always maintained--purest nonsense. > = I think that I'll take some credit here too. From the first week this list started I have been dealing this subject and have presented the case now verified by genetics. Where is Michael Hoffman now? Where is Poley and the other Christians whose intent it was to replace the Jews as the people of the book? The intent here was evil. Joshua2 > > http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2509/tech_diaspora.html > > Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins > > By Discovery.com News > > May 9, 2000 - A genetic analysis of Jewish populations has revealed new > clues about their Middle Eastern origins and new details about how the group > spread throughout the world, according to today's New York Times. > The findings suggest that despite the fact that they dispersed out of Israel > over 2,000 years ago, Jews have remained remarkably faithful to "the > tribe" - there has been little interbreeding with other groups. > > Also challenged are claims that the Jewish population is largely composed of > outside groups who converted to the faith. > > The results also suggest that, out of all other groups in the world, Jews > are most closely related to Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, with whom > they descended from a common population 4,000 years ago. > > The findings, which were published in today's issue of the Proceedings of > the American Academy of Sciences, were reported in the New York Times. > > The study, which was led by Michael F. Hammer of the University of Arizona, > compared the chemical sequence of the Y chromosome among men worldwide. The > Y chromosome, which contains the genes that make men men, is passed down > from father to son in more or less intact form. > > As a result, examining its genes paints an almost unbroken picture of one's > paternal heritage. Genes in the Y chromosome do change over time among > different groups, however, so comparing the Y chromosomes of distinct > populations provides a window into how closely they are related. > > Based on these comparisons, Hammer identified 19 main variations in the Y > chromosome worldwide, according to the New York Times. Jews and Arabs > descended from a group that shared eight of these lineages. > > This ancestral Arab-Jewish population, in turn, may have descended from the > neolithic groups who first developed farming in the Near East. > > Hammer closely examined the DNA of Ashkenazi Jews, who settled in large > numbers throughout Europe. Despite having been surrounded by non-Jews for 80 > generations, the rate of genetic mixture with Europeans was only half a > percent per generation, according to Hammer. > > "It could be that wherever Jews were, they were very much isolated," Hammer > told the New York Times. > > > Robert F. Tatman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jenkintown, PA, USA > "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg > "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are > sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, > misdirections > and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and > minor > effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, > CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor ef
[CTRL] Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins
So we learn at least two things: the Genesis account of Abraham as father of both Isaac and Ishmael has true in more than just a spiritual sense; and all of the hypotheses about British Israel, the Khazars, mongrel races, etc., are proven to be just what I have always maintained--purest nonsense. = http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/2509/tech_diaspora.html Jewish Gene Study Reveals Origins By Discovery.com News May 9, 2000 - A genetic analysis of Jewish populations has revealed new clues about their Middle Eastern origins and new details about how the group spread throughout the world, according to today's New York Times. The findings suggest that despite the fact that they dispersed out of Israel over 2,000 years ago, Jews have remained remarkably faithful to "the tribe" - there has been little interbreeding with other groups. Also challenged are claims that the Jewish population is largely composed of outside groups who converted to the faith. The results also suggest that, out of all other groups in the world, Jews are most closely related to Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese, with whom they descended from a common population 4,000 years ago. The findings, which were published in today's issue of the Proceedings of the American Academy of Sciences, were reported in the New York Times. The study, which was led by Michael F. Hammer of the University of Arizona, compared the chemical sequence of the Y chromosome among men worldwide. The Y chromosome, which contains the genes that make men men, is passed down from father to son in more or less intact form. As a result, examining its genes paints an almost unbroken picture of one's paternal heritage. Genes in the Y chromosome do change over time among different groups, however, so comparing the Y chromosomes of distinct populations provides a window into how closely they are related. Based on these comparisons, Hammer identified 19 main variations in the Y chromosome worldwide, according to the New York Times. Jews and Arabs descended from a group that shared eight of these lineages. This ancestral Arab-Jewish population, in turn, may have descended from the neolithic groups who first developed farming in the Near East. Hammer closely examined the DNA of Ashkenazi Jews, who settled in large numbers throughout Europe. Despite having been surrounded by non-Jews for 80 generations, the rate of genetic mixture with Europeans was only half a percent per generation, according to Hammer. "It could be that wherever Jews were, they were very much isolated," Hammer told the New York Times. Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jenkintown, PA, USA "Y Gwir Yn Erbyn y Byd"--Y Bardd Cymraeg "The Truth Against the World"--motto of the Welsh bards http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
