Re: [CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
-Caveat Lector- Andrea Yates had taken a number of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic medications since the birth of her fourth child in 1999, the same year she attempted suicide. [snip] Although Mrs. Yates has not said why she drowned her five children, her husband said he believes her depression played a major role. She wasn't in the right frame of mind, he said. I suspect there was a lot more going on with this woman than the supposed 'post-partum depression' she's alleged to have sufferend. True post-partum depression only lasts a few weeks after the birth of a child, and doesn't call for the prescribing of anti-psychotic meds. I suspect the diagnosis of post-partum depression was something the husband and the rest of the family found acceptable, rather than spending the time and effort in trying to determine the real cause of this woman's psychic angst... I haven't read anywhere that this woman underwent COUNSELING at any time...only that her doctors continued to throw one psychotropic med after another at her... Mr. Yates said medication his wife took after the birth of their fourth child did not work as well after the birth of their fifth, six months ago. When her father died, he said, her condition worsened. Which should have been a red flag that she was suffering from something more than 'post-partum depression'...but again, it would seem that this family rather preferred to sweep the real problem under a rug instead of addressing it head on... June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
-Caveat Lector- --- YnrChyldzWyld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Andrea Yates had taken a number of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic medications since the birth of her fourth child in 1999, the same year she attempted suicide. [snip] Although Mrs. Yates has not said why she drowned her five children, her husband said he believes her depression played a major role. She wasn't in the right frame of mind, he said. I suspect there was a lot more going on with this woman than the supposed 'post-partum depression' she's alleged to have sufferend. True post-partum depression only lasts a few weeks after the birth of a child, and doesn't call for the prescribing of anti-psychotic meds. I suspect the diagnosis of post-partum depression was something the husband and the rest of the family found acceptable, rather than spending the time and effort in trying to determine the real cause of this woman's psychic angst... I haven't read anywhere that this woman underwent COUNSELING at any time...only that her doctors continued to throw one psychotropic med after another at her... Mr. Yates said medication his wife took after the birth of their fourth child did not work as well after the birth of their fifth, six months ago. When her father died, he said, her condition worsened. Which should have been a red flag that she was suffering from something more than 'post-partum depression'...but again, it would seem that this family rather preferred to sweep the real problem under a rug instead of addressing it head on... June I would like to know who many of you have a degree in psychology and know this person personly. Maybe what her family is saying is the truth. I am getting tried of people seeing conspiracies in everything. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
-Caveat Lector- Andrea Yates had taken a number of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic medications since the birth of her fourth child in 1999, the same year she attempted suicide. Were these medications prescribed by her NASA-employed physician? [snip] Although Mrs. Yates has not said why she drowned her five children, her husband said he believes her depression played a major role. She wasn't in the right frame of mind, he said. I suspect there was a lot more going on with this woman than the supposed 'post-partum depression' she's alleged to have sufferend. Absolutely, and with a lot of other killers whose murders produce political results. Jenny A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:26:27 -0700 From: Anise Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [MC] Killer Mom's Meds To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting - about Haldol http://www.walnet.org/llf/drugs/haldol.html#start SHOULD NOT BE USED OR SHOULD BE USED CAREFULLY WHEN THERE IS use of drugs for depression (within 14 days) use of tranquilizers, drugs for tension (within 14 days) use of other antipsychotic/neuroleptic drugs severe depression - Anise Mrs. Yates' husband, Russell Yates, said Thursday that his wife began taking Effexor and Remeron earlier this week. She had previously taken Risperdal, Wellbutrin and Haldol, her husband said. --- End of forwarded message --- ANOMALOUS IMAGES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, gandalf wrote: I would like to know who many of you have a degree in psychology and know this person personly. No degree, just what was taught in my nursing classes and what any medical person past basic training would recognize as signs a person may require more than just meds thrown at them as a supposed 'solution' to their mental and emotional problems... Maybe what her family is saying is the truth. I never said they were lying. What I DID say is that the diagnosis of 'post-partum depression' was a convenient diagnosis for a problem which seems to have been much more severe and deep-seated than anyone seemed to care to probe. Again, true post-partum depression only lasts a few weeks, and is never treated with anti-psychotic meds... So it would seem that the doctor(s) who prescribed the meds had to be aware of a deeper problem, but didn't get this woman any counseling, only continued to prescribe various psychotropic cocktails... I am getting tried of people seeing conspiracies in everything. One wonders what you are doing on a list called CONSPIRACY Theory Research List, then... June Check out the nonstop beachparty at Alternative Kite Summer radio: http://www.live365.com/stations/250951 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Killer Mom's Meds
http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/400167_drugs_22tex.AR.html Husband says woman changed medications 06/22/2001By Doug Swanson / The Dallas Morning News Andrea Yates had taken a number of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic medications since the birth of her fourth child in 1999, the same year she attempted suicide. They were commonly prescribed medications that work in different – and often not completely understood – ways to alter the brain's chemistry. Mrs. Yates' husband, Russell Yates, said Thursday that his wife began taking Effexor and Remeron earlier this week. She had previously taken Risperdal, Wellbutrin and Haldol, her husband said. Although Mrs. Yates has not said why she drowned her five children, her husband said he believes her depression played a major role. "She wasn't in the right frame of mind," he said. Although the medications she took are widely used, they don't work in all cases, said Dr. Alan Schatzberg, chairman of the psychiatry department at the Stanford University Medical Center. "Unfortunately, not everyone responds to what you put them on," he said. Risperdal is believed to adjust the imbalance of two brain chemicals, the neurotransmitters known as dopamine and serotonin. The chemicals transfer information from nerve to nerve in the brain. Reducing dopamine activity often leads to a lessening of delusions and hallucinations. Reducing serotonin activity may help with lack of emotion and feelings of being disconnected, said Risperdal's maker, Janssen Pharmaceutica of Belgium. The company says it is the most-prescribed anti-psychotic in the United States. Wellbutrin, Remeron and Effexor are anti-depressants that affect neurotransmitters. Remeron, one of the newer anti-depressants, stimulates serotonin release while blocking specific serotonin receptors. All three are commonly prescribed for depression. Haldol, an anti-psychotic manufactured by Ortho-McNeil, is often prescribed for schizophrenia and outbursts of aggression and agitation. It also works by changing the flow of dopamine. Anti-depressants have a number of possible side effects, including dry mouth, blurry vision, nausea, muscle problems, loss of libido and tremors. The drugs may take several weeks to work. There have been some claims that various anti-depressants can produce irrational or aberrant behavior, but these have not been accepted by the medical community at large. "I think this kind of thing is unfortunately part of the illness, not part of the treatment," Dr. Schatzberg said. Depression is the most common mental ailment. The National Institute of Mental Health says that in any given one-year period, about 9.5 percent of U.S. adults suffer from a depressive illness. New medicines to treat depression appear every year. Dosages vary, and are often adjusted according to a patient's reaction to the drug. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another, doctors say. Mr. Yates said medication his wife took after the birth of their fourth child did not work as well after the birth of their fifth, six months ago. When her father died, he said, her condition worsened. "She was just primed for that depression," he said. "We were all hopeful she'd respond to the same medication she did the first time. ... She got to maybe 65 percent and sort of stayed there and plateaued."
