Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits & Synarchists

2003-11-09 Thread David Sutherland
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What the hell are you mewling about now 
you pious Whining Wuzzy McWindbag!
 
Do you want a shoulder to cry on? 

 
Someone to hold your hand perhaps? 

 
What if Salter doesn't want to hold hands 
with Justin(e) Raimondo's Backdoor Bandit!
 
Are you going to liken Salter to a "Nazi" 
or an "anti-Semite," words you've already used; if he diss's your phoney 
advances.
 
You fouled-mouthed, scurrilous and 
obnoxious little prat.
 
McMuttonHead; you came, you bitched, you 
got slapped-down. 
 
The cause of the latter was of your own 
making and nobody else's. Now you want somebody to mommy you, and pretend that 
your own foul and insidious mouth is not in fact your own worst enemy. You have 
a terminal case of foot-in-mouth.
 
Here's something infinitely more 
interesting than McMoron's mind-farts.
 
A fish flatus!
http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~bwilson/Herring_sound.wav
 
 
Dave.
 
 
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sean 
  McBride 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits 
  & Synarchists
  -Caveat Lector- 
  
  

  Brian,
   
  Your efforts to try to conduct a 
  well-informed, rational, fair and civil discussion on this and other topics 
  have been greatly appreciated.
   
  What is the best way to handle 
  disrupters who are vicious and deranged, and clearly have no interest in 
  dealing reasonably with the facts?
   
  Probably, after making a few failed 
  efforts to engage them in serious discussion, the best course is to 
  ignore them entirely.
   
  These exchanges have nicely demonstrated 
  that it is much better to be the target than the source of irrational verbal 
  abuse and personal attacks.  On the net, the attackers will have to live 
  with the consequences of their words forever.
   
  political-research 
  at
   
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-research/
   
  is wide open for discussion of these 
  topics, and has a policy of firmly moderating any personal attacks or obvious 
  efforts at disruption.
   
  By the way, I regard any blanket 
  condemnation and negative stereotyping of entire religious and ethnic groups 
  to be a form of unacceptable bigotry, particularly when members of groups are 
  singled out for attack without any regard for what they've said as individuals 
  and how they've conducted their lives.
   
  As a rule it's a good idea to discourage 
  this kind of hate speech in discussion forums, unless one wants the forums to 
  descend into violent chaos.
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Brian Salter 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 
AM
Subject: [CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits 
& Synarchists
-Caveat Lector-the 
following article is of interest as it is a clear refutation ofrecent 
spurious disinfo claims that larouche is pro-jesuit, and thathis 
opposition to the synarchist movement is a cypher 
foranti-semitism.  here, jesuits are identified as being behind 
synarchistefforts to promote the catholic "christero rebellion" in 
mexico, 1929.i rest my case!  i don't think it could be any 
clearer.  and i will notinsult myself by responding any further to 
obvious slander attacks;however, if anyone is interested in a further 
discussion and critiqueof larouche based on an adult standard of debate 
and constructive,factual analysis, i'm willing to continue sharing 
info.Synarchism, the Spanish Falange,and the Nazishttp://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3029cristero.htmlps: 
another source for the larouche org's views on jesuits (which, tomy 
knowledge, they generally consider to be an infiltrated front 
foranglo-venetian interests within the the various factions of 
thevatican, FWIW) is anton chaitkin's "treason in america".  there 
are 13index references for jesuits, all of them very negative and 
critical,and which portray jesuits as allies of oligarchal subversion 
ofamerican democracy over the past two centuries. whether this is 
anaccurate analysis is a separate question, but this is what is on 
therecord.pps: i know full well that in other ways, larouche 
clearly has apro-vatican bias.  to be clear, i'm not denying 
that.www.ctrl.orgDECLARATION 
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Re: [CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits & Synarchists

2003-11-07 Thread Sean McBride
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Brian,
 
Your efforts to try to conduct a 
well-informed, rational, fair and civil discussion on this and other topics have 
been greatly appreciated.
 
What is the best way to handle disrupters 
who are vicious and deranged, and clearly have no interest in dealing reasonably 
with the facts?
 
Probably, after making a few failed 
efforts to engage them in serious discussion, the best course is to ignore 
them entirely.
 
These exchanges have nicely demonstrated 
that it is much better to be the target than the source of irrational verbal 
abuse and personal attacks.  On the net, the attackers will have to live 
with the consequences of their words forever.
 
political-research 
at
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/political-research/
 
is wide open for discussion of these 
topics, and has a policy of firmly moderating any personal attacks or obvious 
efforts at disruption.
 
By the way, I regard any blanket 
condemnation and negative stereotyping of entire religious and ethnic groups to 
be a form of unacceptable bigotry, particularly when members of groups are 
singled out for attack without any regard for what they've said as individuals 
and how they've conducted their lives.
 
As a rule it's a good idea to discourage 
this kind of hate speech in discussion forums, unless one wants the forums to 
descend into violent chaos.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brian Salter 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:37 
  AM
  Subject: [CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits 
  & Synarchists
  -Caveat Lector-the following article is of interest as 
  it is a clear refutation ofrecent spurious disinfo claims that larouche is 
  pro-jesuit, and thathis opposition to the synarchist movement is a cypher 
  foranti-semitism.  here, jesuits are identified as being behind 
  synarchistefforts to promote the catholic "christero rebellion" in mexico, 
  1929.i rest my case!  i don't think it could be any clearer.  
  and i will notinsult myself by responding any further to obvious slander 
  attacks;however, if anyone is interested in a further discussion and 
  critiqueof larouche based on an adult standard of debate and 
  constructive,factual analysis, i'm willing to continue sharing 
  info.Synarchism, the Spanish Falange,and the Nazishttp://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3029cristero.htmlps: 
  another source for the larouche org's views on jesuits (which, tomy 
  knowledge, they generally consider to be an infiltrated front 
  foranglo-venetian interests within the the various factions of 
  thevatican, FWIW) is anton chaitkin's "treason in america".  there 
  are 13index references for jesuits, all of them very negative and 
  critical,and which portray jesuits as allies of oligarchal subversion 
  ofamerican democracy over the past two centuries. whether this is 
  anaccurate analysis is a separate question, but this is what is on 
  therecord.pps: i know full well that in other ways, larouche 
  clearly has apro-vatican bias.  to be clear, i'm not denying 
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[CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits & Synarchists

2003-11-07 Thread Brian Salter
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the following article is of interest as it is a clear refutation of
recent spurious disinfo claims that larouche is pro-jesuit, and that
his opposition to the synarchist movement is a cypher for
anti-semitism.  here, jesuits are identified as being behind synarchist
efforts to promote the catholic "christero rebellion" in mexico, 1929.
i rest my case!  i don't think it could be any clearer.  and i will not
insult myself by responding any further to obvious slander attacks;
however, if anyone is interested in a further discussion and critique
of larouche based on an adult standard of debate and constructive,
factual analysis, i'm willing to continue sharing info.
Synarchism, the Spanish Falange,
and the Nazis
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2003/3029cristero.html
ps: another source for the larouche org's views on jesuits (which, to
my knowledge, they generally consider to be an infiltrated front for
anglo-venetian interests within the the various factions of the
vatican, FWIW) is anton chaitkin's "treason in america".  there are 13
index references for jesuits, all of them very negative and critical,
and which portray jesuits as allies of oligarchal subversion of
american democracy over the past two centuries. whether this is an
accurate analysis is a separate question, but this is what is on the
record.
pps: i know full well that in other ways, larouche clearly has a
pro-vatican bias.  to be clear, i'm not denying that.
www.ctrl.org
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==
CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!   These are
sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with
major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.

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