[CTRL] NATIONHOOD AND JERUSALEM
NATIONHOOD AND JERUSALEMIsrael became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise ofIslam. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of aPalestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of themodern State of Israel.- Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion overthe land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land forthe past 3,300 years.- The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than22 years. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital.Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Evenwhen the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it theircapital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.- King David founded the city of Jerusalem and Jerusalem is mentioned over700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures.- Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran and Mohammed never came toJerusalem.- Jews pray facing Jerusalem.- Muslims pray facing Mecca with their backs toward Jerusalem.ARAB AND JEWISH REFUGEES- In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaderspromising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without everseeing an Israeli soldier.- The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arabbrutality, persecution and pogroms.- The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to bearound 630,000.- The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.-Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arablands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group inthe world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands.- Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no largerthan the state of New Jersey.THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT- The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including thePalestinians. For the most part, their territory prior to 1967 was in thearea of JORDAN that is currently the west bank of Israel.- There is only one Jewish nation.- Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomyunder the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.- The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itselfeach time and won and the P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destructionof the State of Israel.- Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews weredenied access to places of worship.- Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preservedand made accessible to people of all faiths.THE UN RECORD ON ISRAEL AND THE ARABS- Of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 weredirected against Israel.- Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 weredirected against Israel.- The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem synagogues were destroyed by theJordanians.- The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated theancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.- The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policyof preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
Re: [CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 10/26/2000 9:24:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << What do Christians always complain about? >> > > I don't know Joshua, I just recall that Palestinian Christians were > complaining that they were not allowed to visit those shrines you mention. > Prudy > When was that? And if that is true, do you suppose it's because they are Christian or because they are Palistinian? We would know this answer if we knew that all other Chritians were also prevented from visiting their shrines. And if so, why? It seems to me that Israel would not intentionally destroy half of its tourist industry. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NATIONHOOD AND JERUSALEM
-Caveat Lector- NATIONHOOD AND JERUSALEM Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. - Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. - The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. - King David founded the city of Jerusalem and Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. - Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran and Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. - Jews pray facing Jerusalem. - Muslims pray facing Mecca with their backs toward Jerusalem. ARAB AND JEWISH REFUGEES - In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. - The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. - The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. - The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same. -Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. - Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. THE ARAB-ISRAELI CONFLICT - The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. For the most part, their territory prior to 1967 was in the area of JORDAN that is currently the west bank of Israel. - There is only one Jewish nation. - Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons. - The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won and the P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. - Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. - Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. THE UN RECORD ON ISRAEL AND THE ARABS - Of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel. - Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. - The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians. - The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. - The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/26/2000 9:24:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What do Christians always complain about? >> I don't know Joshua, I just recall that Palestinian Christians were complaining that they were not allowed to visit those shrines you mention. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 10/25/2000 1:50:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << * Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been > > preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths >> > > Now this is news. What were those Christians complaining about? Prudy What do Christians always complain about? J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/25/2000 1:50:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << * Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths >> Now this is news. What were those Christians complaining about? Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Nationhood and Jerusalem
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: yair davidi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 October 2001 10:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A short background to the conflict At 10:44 AM 10/24/00 +0200, you wrote: Nationhood and Jerusalem * Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. * Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. * Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. * For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. * Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. * King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. * Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem Arab and Jewish Refugees * In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. * The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same. * Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. The Arab - Israeli Conflict * The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians.There is only one Jewish nation. * The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost.Israel defended itself each time and won. * The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons. * Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. * Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. The U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs * Of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel. * Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. * The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians. * The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives. * The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
