[CTRL] Nostradamus Prediction

2001-09-11 Thread Steve

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 The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
 Fire approaches the great new city.

 By fire he will destroy their city,
 A cold and cruel heart,
 Blood will pour,
 Mercy to none.  (Guentte)

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Re: [CTRL] Nostradamus Prediction

2001-09-11 Thread Tenorlove

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Steve, can you tell us which Century/Stanza this is? Thanks in advance.

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  The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
  Fire approaches the great new city.

  By fire he will destroy their city,
  A cold and cruel heart,
  Blood will pour,
  Mercy to none.  (Guentte)


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Re: [CTRL] Nostradamus Prediction

2001-09-11 Thread Steve

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Tenorlove,This was from Century 6, Quatrain 97. These are quatrains dealing
with 'New City with a slightly different translation.

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http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/newcity.htm

 The New City

 Century 1, Quatrain 24

A cité neuue pensif pour condemner,
L'oisel de proye au ciel se vient offrir:
 Apres victoire à captifs pardonner,
Cremone  Mantoue gras maux aura souffert.

 The new city contemplating a condemnation,
 The bird of prey offers itself to the heavens.
After victory pardon to the captives,
  Cremona and Mantua will have suffered great evils.



Century 1, Quatrain 87

 Ennosigee feu du centre de terre,
 Fera trembler autour de cité neuue
 Deux gras rochers long têps feront la guerre,
   Puis Arethuse rougira nouueau fleuue.

Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
  Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
 Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
 And then Arethusa will color a new river red.




   Century 6, Quatrain 97

Cinq  quarante degrés ciel bruslera
Feu approcher de la grand cité neuue [neufue]
Instant grand flamme esparse sautera
 Quand on voudra des Normans faire preuue.

   At forty-five degrees, the sky will burn,
 Fire approaches the great new city,
 Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
 When they want to have verification from the Normans.



Century 9, Quatrain 92

Le Roy voudra en cité neufue entrer,
 Par ennemis expugner l'on viendra
 Captif libere faux dire  perpetrer,
  Roy dehors estre, loin d'ennemis tiendra.

   The king will want to enter the new city,
Through its enemies they will come to subdue it
  Captives liberated to speak and act falsely,
  King to be outside, he will keep far from the enemy.



Century 10, Quatrain 49

   Jardin du monde aupres du cité neufue,
   Dans le chemin des montaignes cauees,
 Sera saisi et plongé dans la Cuue,
 Beuuant par force eaux soulfre enuenimees.

   Garden of the world near the new city,
In the path of the hollow mountains,
  It will be seized and plunged into the Vat,
   Drinking by force the waters poisoned by sulfur.


[From: Nostradamus: The Complete Prophecies by John Hogue]



On 11 Sep 01, at 16:29, Tenorlove wrote:

 Steve, can you tell us which Century/Stanza this is? Thanks in advance.

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 --- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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   The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
   Fire approaches the great new city.
 
   By fire he will destroy their city,
   A cold and cruel heart,
   Blood will pour,
   Mercy to none.  (Guentte)
 

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Re: [CTRL] Nostradamus Prediction

2001-09-11 Thread RevCOAL

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 The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.
 Fire approaches the great new city.

 By fire he will destroy their city,
 A cold and cruel heart,
 Blood will pour,
 Mercy to none.  (Guentte)

Nostradamus is bullshit.  His quatrains are nothing more than verbal
inkblots, open to whatever interpretation someone's subconscious wishes
to give them...

Not ONCE has anyone EVER successfully PREDICTED any event via a
Nostradamus quatrain...but they're always duly trotted out AFTER an
event, with claims that the quatrain predicted it.

In this case, the first two lines of the quatrain could as easily be
applied to TWA800 as today's events.  The quatrain also doesn't account
for the Pentagon bombing, also the fact that 'the new city' has NOT been
destroyed, just damaged...


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Re: [CTRL] Nostradamus Prediction

2001-09-11 Thread Steve

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On 11 Sep 01, at 21:01, RevCOAL wrote:

 In this case, the first two lines of the quatrain could as easily be
 applied to TWA800 as today's events.  The quatrain also doesn't account
 for the Pentagon bombing, also the fact that 'the new city' has NOT been
 destroyed, just damaged...

Nostradamus was describing what he saw in his visions. TWA800 could not
have been interpreted as destroying a city. The events of today could have
been interpreted that way.

Steve

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