Re: [CTRL] REPLY TO NESSIE- I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-16 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Birds" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hello and am answering your letter.  I came to this group as it is a
 conspiracy group and usually these are the type of people I get along with
 as they know what REALLY goes on in this screwed up government that we have
 or anything for that matter.  I was highly disappointed and shocked when I
 read your blatant disagreement without any proof answer.

Great.  Another one expecting unthinking acceptance of undocumented allegations...


  How do you know they are not lying? Do you have evidence external to the
  books? For that matter, how do you know that all five books weren't writen
  by the same author as part of a disnformation campaign?

 What is with all these denial and why cannot these be true as the same as
 they can be lies?  Why do you want them to be lies?  Do you believe the
 Halocaust happened???

The Holocaust (learn to spell) is well-documented.  Your allegations are not.

I don't see the request that you document your allegations as meaning the requestor is 
in denial.

And I notice that in all your complaining in this post, you never once provide the 
documentation that was
requested.

So you claim to have known Marilyn Monroe?  You and 'Aleisha' should get along well 
then, since 'Aleisha' has
known every famous person who ever existed throughout history.

But like 'Aleisha', you seem to lack any documentation to substantiate these claims.


 I am a true survivor of a father who prostituted his own daughter to men for
 his and their pleasure and for money.

If this is true, then you have my sympathy.  But you have offered nothing in the way 
of documentation, and
until then you have to expect a good many of us to take your claims with more than a 
grain or two of salt.



 I have not been on this list long
 so I don't know it actually yet, but I think I have no desire to be on it
 anymore.  I thought I was coming on to a group who told truths.

You came into a group that requires documentation for extraordinary claims.  You have 
yet to provide that.


June

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Re: [CTRL] REPLY TO NESSIE- I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-16 Thread Aleisha Saba

June you had a few misspelled words the other day but most people are
not so rude and crude as to point them out..Marshall?   This one man
who misused the word probably an oversight  you had your little
dictionary out, for surely your little mind would not hold all these
little words.

And further June, I do not document - you want documentation you gt it
yourself for this is a theory list..you still have never come up
with anything original..so you keep my name out of your letters.

And I most certainly have known and met a lot of famous people but then
I did not find that unusual nor was it unusual for either of my sisters
- the one lunched in a group with the Prince of the Netherlands and I
have a picture of himthey used to sit on the Rock of Gibralter with
Sir Ragmer Hines, who was then Chief Magristrate of Gibralter;  so what
has made us different - well though I did not have the big bucks, I had
high enough IQ I could mingle with such people and I worked with people
who new people whom you seem to think like some big hick, to be oh so
important?

I sat with a Prince - later they murdered his father.today Osama bin
Laden wants to put this man back on his throne - the man who should have
been King..

I met JFK, RFK and both were murdered; and I have worked with MI6 Agent
who was trained by Ian Fleming and who had never seen my bible code but
had heard of it.this individual chartered the Hess Escape Route to
Scotlandher many books are still in libraries and even Jean Dixon
used to send me her books to readautographed.   I took great delight
in putting a mutache and horns and beard on her big nosed face.not
the face of a royalist..

Of course then JUNE..education is the poor man's wealth, and
knowledge is not only power, it brings enlightenment to one's life.

For I am never bored..you have been so obnoxiouis in the past and
think they call hat nit picking.by the way, you spell "lable",
"label".

Most people are too polite and considerate to point out your
shortcomings..

Many people are writing me off list but the names are strange to
me..wondered if some of them were not you in disguise?

After all you do have a Hot Mail Account.

So June, up your nose with a rubber hose - for not wishing to borrow the
familiarity of your sometimes crude style, I will leave it at that.

My work is original as far as the theory is;  but it made one newspaper
in 1969 in LA for Bob Kaiser had made reference to in in a newspaper
article...and Jon Christian and Bill Turner contacted me - only the
police delivered the letter to me, for I had been in hospital and
returned to a home that had been wrecked..

So June, I do not know who you are, but I know what you are.

Keep my name out of your letters.as I told you you obnoxious woman,
even Einstein only had a theory.

Saba
One who has met and known many famous ipeople and sat at party with
Princes and Presidents.and MI6 came to me, I did not go to
them..for they alll thought I had access to secret files...but J
Edgar said "she is getting it on her own"you see, I have always been
a free thinker and have seen great truths only because my mothr never
brainwashed me.instead she carefully instructed me in proper
behavior - but in dealing with people like you sometimes the class must
turn to brass.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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Re: [CTRL] REPLY TO NESSIE- I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-16 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Many people are writing me off list but the names are strange to
 me..wondered if some of them were not you in disguise?

Only in your dreams.

I have better things to do than waste my time sending you mail off-list...

Just because YOU are fixated on ME, don't go thinking the obsession is reciprocated.


 Keep my name out of your letters.as I told you you obnoxious woman,
 even Einstein only had a theory.

That he spent decades DOCUMENTING


June

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[CTRL] REPLY TO NESSIE- I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'

2000-08-15 Thread Birds

Hello and am answering your letter.  I came to this group as it is a
conspiracy group and usually these are the type of people I get along with
as they know what REALLY goes on in this screwed up government that we have
or anything for that matter.  I was highly disappointed and shocked when I
read your blatant disagreement without any proof answer.

First of all Nessie (I do hope you have feelings inside that heart of yours)
and second of all, I know a lot about this book and several books because I
myself is a survivor of this horrible type abuse.  There are women coming
out now and telling the truths because they no longer want to deny this and
truths are told.  People were too scared before and with known fear of
telling on our government and who would believe it, just as yourself is
doing.I am also going to comment on some of your comments.  Yes she did.
I was with Marilyn for a number of times.  She was like a babysitter to the
children.  Several others across the nation are coming out now. There are
umpteen books and you say this is hogwash  What are you from
Iceland or another sexual abuse survivor who is in denial yourself thus
these other stories cannot be true either or you would have to face your own
truths from your past.


Marilyn Monroe was one.  (answered above)


 She told you this personally, or you heard it from a third party


ANSWER BELOW


How do you know they are not lying? Do you have evidence external to the
 books? For that matter, how do you know that all five books weren't writen
 by the same author as part of a disnformation campaign?


What is with all these denial and why cannot these be true as the same as
they can be lies?  Why do you want them to be lies?  Do you believe the
Halocaust happened???


I am a true survivor of a father who prostituted his own daughter to men for
his and their pleasure and for money.  A lot of people in the government are
pedophiles.  They prefer the young.  I know names too, but I would never
even put me on the stand because of people like you.  It is hard enough for
us survivors to face these truths everyday on how they were tortured, yes
tortured, and were used.  That is how I know the truths.  I have been with
this for 10 years and have done a lot of research and I know there are
Charletons out there that are using these women.  Now that is a correct
statement.  Some of these man make the books with these women to make them
sound so unbelievable and are also taking and using these women for their
own personal gain.  They are exaggerated so that no one would believe that
Clinton himself the pig, had teenagers always available for his men.  They
picked unknown women and children because they had too.  They mind control a
human being and that is how they get control over this person and get the
acts done.  Monica Lewinsky was a toy and I do agree on the one posting of
yours.  She did get famous from doing that with Clinton and fame she got.
She is not the kind of survivor I am talking about. So please in the future
before you deny something so blatantly, think about it.  It hurts others.
Unless you yourself are involved in this type of lifestyle and are on the
abusers side.  Maybe is that why you don't believe?  Would you believe your
daughter if she told you she was sexually abused?  Most people do not want
to go public that were sexually abused.  It is horrid, shameful and
downright tears up a human's soul because of this and my loving father the
satanist.  Thanks for listening anyway.  I have not been on this list long
so I don't know it actually yet, but I think I have no desire to be on it
anymore.  I thought I was coming on to a group who told truths.  You are
also right that either Gore or Bush, we are in trouble because both of these
men are controlled and George Bush, Sr. is as dirty as they come.



Birds
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- Original Message -
From: nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] I WAS DICK CHENEY'S SEX SLAVE'


 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
 This is a true story.


 Where's the evidence?


 
 I have the book.


 That doesn't make it true.


 
 There were and are still many sex

 slaves.


 Indeed, consensual and otherwise. That in no way proves anything about
 this particular case, one way or the other.


 
 Marilyn Monroe was one.


 She told you this personally, or you heard it from a third party?


 
 You don't see this unless a victim brings

 it out and how can she fight the government?  One cannot.


 Please rephrase this. It's unclear what you are trying to say.


 
 I have read at

 least 5 other books with similiar content.  They all are not lying.


 How do you know they are not lying? Do you have evidence external to the
 books? For that matter, how do you know that all five books weren't writen
 by the same author as part of a disnformation campaign?


 
  Bush is

 so corrupt I hate to think what is going