Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[Foxter]

Thank you, I have never had this happen to 
me.  I use juno as internet connection, perhaps ...
 

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  license beggars
  -Caveat Lector-On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:56:09 -0800 
  Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:I've been trying to find  reference without much success. 
  There were a bunch of articles a few weeks back (including on htis list from 
  memory) stating some sort of new email program allowed the original sender of 
  an email to receive a list of everyone who received a forwarded copy of 
  it.I'll keep looking and post what I find. Unfortuantely words such as 
  'email' 'bug' 'worm' etc are too broad to get much out of search 
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Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[Nessie]

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> I'll keep looking and post what I find. 

Thanks. Anybody else out there know the name of this thing?

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Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[Johannes Schmidt IV]

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On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 06:56:09 -0800 Nessie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've been trying to find  reference without much success. There were a bunch of 
articles a few weeks back (including on htis list from memory) stating some sort of 
new email program allowed the original sender of an email to receive a list of 
everyone who received a forwarded copy of it.

I'll keep looking and post what I find. Unfortuantely words such as 'email' 'bug' 
'worm' etc are too broad to get much out of search engines.

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Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[Nessie]

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>Maybe it's detecting that new email snooper which lets the originator
of a message know who it's been forwarded to?


Which one is that?

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Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

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On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:39:51 -0500 Foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Got a notation "this message is being watched".
>Anybody have any scoop on this?
>
>

Maybe it's detecting that new email snooper which lets the originator of a message 
know who it's been forwarded to?

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Re: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[Foxter]

Got a notation "this message is being 
watched".
Anybody have any scoop on 
this?
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  MICHAEL 
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  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 5:45 
PM
  Subject: [CTRL] REU: Alberta to license 
  beggars
  -Caveat Lector-<http://www0.mercurycenter.com/world/worldwire/docs/1004401l.htm>Posted 
  at 7:35 a.m. PST Sunday, March 25, 2001Spare change? not without the 
  proper IDCALGARY, Alberta (Reuters) - Hey, buddy -- one of 
  Canada'srichest cities could soon force its panhandlers to wear 
  photoidentification as a way of controlling a handful of beggars 
  whohound passersby for spare change.City council in Calgary, 
  Alberta, the country's gleamingoil-industry center, votes April 2 on the 
  plan that would requirepanhandlers to agree to a code of conduct before 
  they are grantedID badges allowing them to hit people up for coins 
  andcigarettes.``It's intended to reduce any potential disruptive 
  behavior orharassment or confrontations with the public,'' said 
  citycouncilor Bob Hawkesworth, vice-chairman of the committeestudying 
  the proposal.The licensing scheme, based on the ID tags charity 
  fund-raiserswear when going door-to-door, would also require panhandlers 
  toundergo counseling and job-search workshops.The western Canadian 
  city of almost 900,000 people has relativelyfew beggars compared with 
  other major metropolitan areas. About40 regulars are said to dot the 
  downtown core, although numbersswell in the summer. Only a fraction are 
  known as aggressive.Calgary passed a bylaw last year prohibiting 
  panhandlers fromplying their trade near transit shelters or automatic 
  tellermachines. This year, the committee sought other ways to 
  tacklethe problem. It even held panhandler focus groups.``That's 
  the genesis of this idea. It came from those discussionsas another way to 
  address the problem,'' Hawkesworth said.Some panhandlers expressed 
  skepticism over the plan.``You give some a license or a card, that 
  darn well won't stopother guys from putting their hand out,'' David Young, 
  44, saidafter extracting some change from a pedestrian on 
  Friday.``The panhandlers that do have a license, they're not going 
  tosay, 'Hey, get out of here. We're calling the cops.' That's justnot 
  done on the street,'' added Young, who said he had lived onthe streets of 
  Calgary for 20 years.One concern among city council members is that 
  licensing may beconstrued as condoning begging, Hawkesworth 
  said.``That's a reservation I have about this approach. This 
  conceptsuggests that we try it for a year and see if it has any good 
  orbad impact and evaluate it after a 
  year.''= 
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[CTRL] REU: Alberta to license beggars

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Posted at 7:35 a.m. PST Sunday, March 25, 2001

Spare change? not without the proper ID


CALGARY, Alberta (Reuters) - Hey, buddy -- one of Canada's
richest cities could soon force its panhandlers to wear photo
identification as a way of controlling a handful of beggars who
hound passersby for spare change.

City council in Calgary, Alberta, the country's gleaming
oil-industry center, votes April 2 on the plan that would require
panhandlers to agree to a code of conduct before they are granted
ID badges allowing them to hit people up for coins and
cigarettes.

``It's intended to reduce any potential disruptive behavior or
harassment or confrontations with the public,'' said city
councilor Bob Hawkesworth, vice-chairman of the committee
studying the proposal.

The licensing scheme, based on the ID tags charity fund-raisers
wear when going door-to-door, would also require panhandlers to
undergo counseling and job-search workshops.

The western Canadian city of almost 900,000 people has relatively
few beggars compared with other major metropolitan areas. About
40 regulars are said to dot the downtown core, although numbers
swell in the summer. Only a fraction are known as aggressive.

Calgary passed a bylaw last year prohibiting panhandlers from
plying their trade near transit shelters or automatic teller
machines. This year, the committee sought other ways to tackle
the problem. It even held panhandler focus groups.

``That's the genesis of this idea. It came from those discussions
as another way to address the problem,'' Hawkesworth said.

Some panhandlers expressed skepticism over the plan.

``You give some a license or a card, that darn well won't stop
other guys from putting their hand out,'' David Young, 44, said
after extracting some change from a pedestrian on Friday.

``The panhandlers that do have a license, they're not going to
say, 'Hey, get out of here. We're calling the cops.' That's just
not done on the street,'' added Young, who said he had lived on
the streets of Calgary for 20 years.

One concern among city council members is that licensing may be
construed as condoning begging, Hawkesworth said.

``That's a reservation I have about this approach. This concept
suggests that we try it for a year and see if it has any good or
bad impact and evaluate it after a year.''


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