Re: [CTRL] Say - DUNCAN Roads ... ?

2000-04-23 Thread Robin Peters


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Re: [CTRL] Say - DUNCAN Roads ... ?

2000-04-22 Thread nexusmagazine

You're from "down under" right?

yes David

And involved in all that New Agey Nexus Magazine kinda stuff - right?

NEXUS Magazine is not 'new agey' - pick up any copy or visit the website
and read for youself

I heard on the radio the other day that your magazine was funded by the
Right Wing, some say Neo-Nazi, League of Rights in Aussie land - any truth
to that report?

Total rubbish.  I own the magazine with my partner, Catherine.  I come
from an organic agriculture, meditation/health food, environmental
background, with leanings described by most readers as left-wing if
anything.

I earned the wrath of the Australia-Israel Review mob in Melbourne,
Australia.  For those who don't know this bunch, let me just say that if
you ask any Jew in Melbourne about the AIR they will tell you (with
distaste) that the Australia-Israel Review people are rabid, right-wing
extremists, funded by some of Australia's wealthiest Jews.  These are the
people who helped fund Netanyahu and his policies into power.

I earned their wrath because during a couple of visits to international
conferences in Libay I displayed pro-Palestinian sentiments.  At the same
time I am NOT anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.  I am pro-peace, and this put
me at odds with one particular journalist named David Grearson,
especially after I rejected his sexual advances (graciously too I
thought) one night at a hotel in Tripoli.  David has since engaged in a
vendetta to link me and the whole-new age movement to some vast
conspiracy theory, (all time claiming that all conspiracy theorists are
right-wing neo-nazis- so work out his logic for yourself).

Nevertheless, our David has the ear of powerful men, and "journalists"
such as Philip Adams (I put "journalists" because Philip Adams displays
the level of journalism as Rupert Murdoch's Sunday papers, ie NO
research, lots of rhetoric, and outright lies).

I've had a similar impression myself, especially when you used to flog all
that D'Icke drivel! Now weren't he the picture of an Aryan god - blonde,
blue-eyed - them luscious lipthz - I could hardly resist buying the mag when
pics of him were spread inside!

You are obviously out-of-the-rest of the internet loop.  I have NEVER
published anything by Icke.  I did review one of his books.  At present,
there is a virtual war between Icke and myself.  Icke and his loyalists
maintain that the world is run by shape-shifting reptilians.  Maybe that
is so, I don't know.  But Icke is also saying that Secharia Sitchin and
Laurence Gardner are reptiles also.  I disagreed, having met Gardner
several times at length.  I said so, and shit has hit the fan.

But what was worse - was when that internet cross-dresser, Ivan "I am
DOROTHY" Fraser, stilettoed into the fray and in your support - this is the
guy that publicly likened Jews to bloodsucking "VAMPIRES".

So you do know of the conflict?  Surely you know that you are writing
drivel then.
Funnily enough, David Grearson's tactics are the same as yours, guilt by
association.  I didn't ask Ivan Fraser to defend me, so what is your
point.
You don't happen to KNOW David Grearson by any chance - you have a
similar style there you realise, David Grearson is just the sort of
person who would know if Ivan Fraser was a cross dresser or not.

Were you aware of this Neo-Nazi comment by the way - very strange bedfellow
to have Dunks - imho.

Of course I know this nonsense.  I have had shopkeepers in Brighton,
England threatened with fire-bombing for selling NEXUS because they were
told that NEXUS was a neo-nazi magazine.

I put to you the challenge I put to anyone with half-a brain - read any
issue for yourself and see if you can find anything right-wing in it.

So for the record, and for those too lazy to read NEXUS you will just
have to take my word for it:
 I am not neo nazi, anti-jewish, right-wing, left-wing, or new age.
I am not a freemason, a CIA agent, a grey alien, or a shapeshifting
reptilian alien.

I am an ordinary guy who for 25 years has been fascinated by what the
media don't tell you, and why they don't tell it.
regards
Duncan

So why have you gone all quiet on this David?  You have posted
information asking questions you already knew answers to, and I want to
know why.

I don't believe you when you say you heard something on the radio the
other day about NEXUS being right-wing neo-nazi.  Every time that used to
happen I would either get calls from the radio station beforehand, or
from listeners afterwards telling me what was said.  I have to assume you
are outright lying on this one.  Why?

You ask if I am associated with NEXUS, and later in the piece you clearly
indicate you KNOW I am associated with NEXUS and ask about my neo-nazi
bedfellows.  If you have read NEXUS like you claim, then you know we
don't publish any newage stuff, and you would also know that we have
never published any photos of David Icke, let alone any articles.  So why
the lies?

You have intentionally attempted to deceive the list with your 

[CTRL] Say - DUNCAN Roads ... ?

2000-04-21 Thread David Sutherland

You're from "down under" right?

And involved in all that New Agey Nexus Magazine kinda stuff - right?

I heard on the radio the other day that your magazine was funded by the
Right Wing, some say Neo-Nazi, League of Rights in Aussie land - any truth
to that report?

Just curious to set the record straight.

I've had a similar impression myself, especially when you used to flog all
that D'Icke drivel! Now weren't he the picture of an Aryan god - blonde,
blue-eyed - them luscious lipthz - I could hardly resist buying the mag when
pics of him were spread inside!

But what was worse - was when that internet cross-dresser, Ivan "I am
DOROTHY" Fraser, stilettoed into the fray and in your support - this is the
guy that publicly likened Jews to bloodsucking "VAMPIRES".

Were you aware of this Neo-Nazi comment by the way - very strange bedfellow
to have Dunks - imho.

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Re: [CTRL] Say - DUNCAN Roads ... ?

2000-04-21 Thread Dale Stonehouse

On Friday, April 21, 2000 6:52 AM, David Sutherland
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:

 And involved in all that New Agey Nexus Magazine kinda stuff - right?

 I heard on the radio the other day that your magazine was funded by the
 Right Wing, some say Neo-Nazi, League of Rights in Aussie land - any truth
 to that report?

 Now weren't he the picture of an Aryan god

 But what was worse - was when that internet cross-dresser, Ivan "I am
 DOROTHY" Fraser, stilettoed into the fray and in your support - this is
the
 guy that publicly likened Jews to bloodsucking "VAMPIRES".

Mr. Sutherland - You like labeling, don't you?

When you put a label on someone you don't have to get to know the person.
You are finished before you start.

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Re: [CTRL] Say - DUNCAN Roads ... ?

2000-04-21 Thread nexusmagazine

You're from "down under" right?

yes David

And involved in all that New Agey Nexus Magazine kinda stuff - right?

NEXUS Magazine is not 'new agey' - pick up any copy or visit the website
and read for youself

I heard on the radio the other day that your magazine was funded by the
Right Wing, some say Neo-Nazi, League of Rights in Aussie land - any truth
to that report?

Total rubbish.  I own the magazine with my partner, Catherine.  I come
from an organic agriculture, meditation/health food, environmental
background, with leanings described by most readers as left-wing if
anything.

I earned the wrath of the Australia-Israel Review mob in Melbourne,
Australia.  For those who don't know this bunch, let me just say that if
you ask any Jew in Melbourne about the AIR they will tell you (with
distaste) that the Australia-Israel Review people are rabid, right-wing
extremists, funded by some of Australia's wealthiest Jews.  These are the
people who helped fund Netanyahu and his policies into power.

I earned their wrath because during a couple of visits to international
conferences in Libay I displayed pro-Palestinian sentiments.  At the same
time I am NOT anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.  I am pro-peace, and this put
me at odds with one particular journalist named David Grearson,
especially after I rejected his sexual advances (graciously too I
thought) one night at a hotel in Tripoli.  David has since engaged in a
vendetta to link me and the whole-new age movement to some vast
conspiracy theory, (all time claiming that all conspiracy theorists are
right-wing neo-nazis- so work out his logic for yourself).

Nevertheless, our David has the ear of powerful men, and "journalists"
such as Philip Adams (I put "journalists" because Philip Adams displays
the level of journalism as Rupert Murdoch's Sunday papers, ie NO
research, lots of rhetoric, and outright lies).

I've had a similar impression myself, especially when you used to flog all
that D'Icke drivel! Now weren't he the picture of an Aryan god - blonde,
blue-eyed - them luscious lipthz - I could hardly resist buying the mag when
pics of him were spread inside!

You are obviously out-of-the-rest of the internet loop.  I have NEVER
published anything by Icke.  I did review one of his books.  At present,
there is a virtual war between Icke and myself.  Icke and his loyalists
maintain that the world is run by shape-shifting reptilians.  Maybe that
is so, I don't know.  But Icke is also saying that Secharia Sitchin and
Laurence Gardner are reptiles also.  I disagreed, having met Gardner
several times at length.  I said so, and shit has hit the fan.

But what was worse - was when that internet cross-dresser, Ivan "I am
DOROTHY" Fraser, stilettoed into the fray and in your support - this is the
guy that publicly likened Jews to bloodsucking "VAMPIRES".

So you do know of the conflict?  Surely you know that you are writing
drivel then.
Funnily enough, David Grearson's tactics are the same as yours, guilt by
association.  I didn't ask Ivan Fraser to defend me, so what is your
point.
You don't happen to KNOW David Grearson by any chance - you have a
similar style there you realise, David Grearson is just the sort of
person who would know if Ivan Fraser was a cross dresser or not.

Were you aware of this Neo-Nazi comment by the way - very strange bedfellow
to have Dunks - imho.

Of course I know this nonsense.  I have had shopkeepers in Brighton,
England threatened with fire-bombing for selling NEXUS because they were
told that NEXUS was a neo-nazi magazine.

I put to you the challenge I put to anyone with half-a brain - read any
issue for yourself and see if you can find anything right-wing in it.

So for the record, and for those too lazy to read NEXUS you will just
have to take my word for it:
 I am not neo nazi, anti-jewish, right-wing, left-wing, or new age.
I am not a freemason, a CIA agent, a grey alien, or a shapeshifting
reptilian alien.

I am an ordinary guy who for 25 years has been fascinated by what the
media don't tell you, and why they don't tell it.

regards

Duncan


Duncan M. Roads
Editor, NEXUS Magazine
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280;   Fax:  +61 (0)7 5442 9381
http://www.nexusmagazine.com  ICQ#62399259

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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
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