Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- If someone isn`t thinking about killing you, you could be trying harder to do the right thing. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Depends on who they are and when they do it- after Sonny Bono found out about Goals 2000 and wrote a letter protesting he died after John Denver changed to Microbiotic eating, had a child and started returning to music he died after Vince Foster apparently protested cover ups he died after Kennedy started publishing things in his magizine George, he died. the other thing is how many fingers you have in how many pies as well as who you get in touch with. Hillary showed her incompetancy during Nixon's impeachment when she was one of the staff of legal researchers trying to impeach him. BillI wonder if since he was adopted if he is suppose to be one of Hitler's sons and if Hillary is suppose to have Hitler's brain? RenoA lesbian that likes young prositutes, the younger the better. Hitler An imcompetant dictator proped up by buisness and it's money so buisness can have control. Bush Sr.Lost a large amount of money and also lost his businesses in the Soviet Union that supported Hitler. They would not release his Yale transcript when he was president but it the gossip was that it was not anything to write home about. Bush Jr.Born the same year as Bill and raised as another imcompetant a puppet - so who is pulling the strings of these people? These people are apparently murderous but they are also imcompetant puppets so who backs them? Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > In a message dated 03/11/2000 8:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << I believe Klinton is guilty of much worse things than rape. However, > saying bad things about him is obviouly dangerous. Welcome to Amerika. >> > > Good Lord, if saying bad things about Clinton was dangerous, there wouldn't > be anybody left in the "liberal"??? media or the Republican Party. I think > saying bad things about Clinton is the road to prosperity. Look at Fred > Barnes. The first time I heard him on television, even the library couldn't > find his address. A few months later he was top man on his own magazine, and > his suits were perfectly tailored. A lot of second-rate journalists have > made it big saying bad things about Clinton. Prudy > -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/12/2000 10:21:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << When you have a tyrannical government as corrupt as Clintons is, and the top cop is equally corrupted and sabotages and stonewalls any and all investigation's into his litany of crimes, you are never going to get a conviction. Stalin and Hitler never faced any official charges and yet they were responsible for tens of millions of deaths, as are many dictators. Gavin. << When refering to the president of the U.S.A. or anyone else, it would be grossly unfair to say they were guilty if they were not convicted in court. >> They're going to try a possible rape case in the Justice Department? Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/11/2000 8:41:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I believe Klinton is guilty of much worse things than rape. However, saying bad things about him is obviouly dangerous. Welcome to Amerika. >> Good Lord, if saying bad things about Clinton was dangerous, there wouldn't be anybody left in the "liberal"??? media or the Republican Party. I think saying bad things about Clinton is the road to prosperity. Look at Fred Barnes. The first time I heard him on television, even the library couldn't find his address. A few months later he was top man on his own magazine, and his suits were perfectly tailored. A lot of second-rate journalists have made it big saying bad things about Clinton. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- When you have a tyrannical government as corrupt as Clintons is, and the top cop is equally corrupted and sabotages and stonewalls any and all investigation's into his litany of crimes, you are never going to get a conviction. Stalin and Hitler never faced any official charges and yet they were responsible for tens of millions of deaths, as are many dictators. Gavin. << When refering to the president of the U.S.A. or anyone else, it would be grossly unfair to say they were guilty if they were not convicted in court. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins >> http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- I believe Klinton is guilty of much worse things than rape. However, saying bad things about him is obviouly dangerous. Welcome to Amerika. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >it would be grossly unfair to say they were guilty if they were not >convicted in >court. That's the theory. In practice, court is a business, nothing more, nothing less. Money talks; poor folks go to prison. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Jeff Sandlin wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > When refering to the president of the U.S.A. or anyone else, it would be > grossly unfair to say they were guilty if they were not convicted in > court. So if a guy comes up to you and breaks your nose, your nose will not hurt until your attacker is found guilty in court. Good thinking. That's fair. J2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Because of his position it does not matter it is what was perceived by the people he may be able to get out of it by legal processes or by saying that many of the countries that we deal with see that as natural but he was a US President at that time would those countries want to have US values then why impose their ideas on us? Problem: Clinton and the ones that pull his strings "seem" to want to say that the highest value commodity that any country has is sex (the more types the better) and that if you want to catch someone's eye in the upper levels then you better teach your children about sex - the sooner the better. Some advocate that sex is to be taught by six years of age. My Question: If a dog is running up to you barking and growling are you going to worry if it is male or female, much less if it is going to try to get your clothes off and rape you? Would the priority be to stay away from someone that acts strange or has a track record for strange behavior or are you suppose to / required to put yourself in that position and have to keep from having sex / getting raped. The Pied Piper 11March2000 Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > In a message dated 03/09/2000 12:55:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << > When did this rape take place? Was the woman hurt? Prudy >> > You didn't answer my question. Prudy > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- When refering to the president of the U.S.A. or anyone else, it would be grossly unfair to say they were guilty if they were not convicted in court. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Prudence, Someone posted an answer to your question after you asked me, (the first time). Maybe you can look in the archives? He was reputed to have bitten a woman`s lip while forcing her to have sex with him. To be honest, I never even saw the post refering to this alllegation until after I made my comment. I apologize for my abrupt response. There is enough rudeness in the world without my contributing to it. As an aside, rape is not restriced to a man raping a woman. Although not often mentioned in the main stream press, homosexual rape also occurs. Again, I apologize. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/10/2000 1:15:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << allegedly >> Now that's the word that bothers me. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/09/2000 8:41:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I never said he raped anyone. I was only pointing out he is far from inherently "good". Pay attention. >> Maybe because I'm a woman, I find the term "rapist" to be specific. There are a bunch of people who are not inherently "good." They are not rapists. Please be a little more specific. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/09/2000 12:55:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > When did this rape take place? Was the woman hurt? Prudy >> You didn't answer my question. Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In 1978 Bill Clinton allegedly raped Juanita Broaddrick in a Little Rock hotel. Juanita was controlled with a brutal lip biting technique commonly used by serial rapists. "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > In a message dated 03/08/2000 10:10:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Rape is natural. Self control is learned and taught. Man is born a > depraved creature. He is not inherently "good." Bill Clinton is a > perfect example >> > > When did this rape take place? Was the woman hurt? Prudy __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- I never said he raped anyone. I was only pointing out he is far from inherently "good". Pay attention. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- He was elected "of the people, for the people" some people seem to define his actions as rape. So, what role model is he for some is not most of the people? What is he selling and to whom??? The Pied Piper Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > In a message dated 03/08/2000 10:10:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Rape is natural. Self control is learned and taught. Man is born a > depraved creature. He is not inherently "good." Bill Clinton is a > perfect example >> > > When did this rape take place? Was the woman hurt? Prudy > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- In a message dated 03/08/2000 10:10:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Rape is natural. Self control is learned and taught. Man is born a depraved creature. He is not inherently "good." Bill Clinton is a perfect example >> When did this rape take place? Was the woman hurt? Prudy http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Hugh Heffner sells sex to adults, young adults 20 to 30 so he married a younger woman. His magazine usually shows the woman's level of education -the woman likes to work hard and play hard, and is honest about it. That she has more than one drive. his mindset. Flint sells sex to adults Seems to advocate that there is only one main drive Sex drive! Clinton sells what? to what age group? is a role model for what age groups? What is his mind set? Does he delude himself that all other presidents wanted the kind of monopoly control that he seems to be after? Jeff Sandlin wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > Call it what you like. I cal it obvious. > > http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture > http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins > > http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > == > CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and > nazi's need not apply. > > Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. > > Archives Available at: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html > > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: > SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Om -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/site_map.htm http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Call it what you like. I cal it obvious. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Jeff Sandlin wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> > -Cui Bono?- > > Rape is natural. Self control is learned and taught. Man is born a > depraved creature. He is not inherently "good." Bill Clinton is a > perfect example. Sounds like Christian theology to me. There is no such thing as good or evil in the natural world. It is purely a human construct, and a random one at that. Joshua2 http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- Rape is natural. Self control is learned and taught. Man is born a depraved creature. He is not inherently "good." Bill Clinton is a perfect example. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soap-boxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Scientists justify Clinton's treatment of women
-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/"> -Cui Bono?- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001851641145319&rtmo=r3mXh3bX&atmo=&pg=/et/00/3/7/wrape07.html Outrage as professors claim rape is natural By Roger Highfield, Science Editor A CLAIM by two "evolutionary psychologists" that rape is as natural as a leopard's spots comes under widespread criticism today. The "evolutionary psychologists" Craig Palmer, of the University of Colorado, and Randy Thornhill, a professor at the University of New Mexico, argue that rapists father children. Because these men pass on their genes by force, any genes favouring that behaviour are passed to the next generation, ensuring the persistence of rape, they claim in A Natural History of Rape, by MIT Press. The assertions have prompted furious opposition from women generally and feminists in particular, for it argues that sex, not power, is the motivation for rape. Other scientists attack the book, claiming that it is flawed and inflammatory. The authors of the book are dismissive of the current belief that rape is driven by power, violence and dominance rather than sex. Women who espouse the view that rape is an act of violence are "scientifically illiterate" and too emotional to comprehend the scientific facts objectively, they say. They write: "We fervently believe that, just as the leopard's spots and the giraffe's elongated neck are the results of aeons of past Darwinian selection, so also is rape. Human rape arises from men's evolved machinery for obtaining a high number of mates in an environment where females choose mates. If men pursued mating only within committed relationships, or if women did not discriminate amongst potential mates, there would be no rape." Later this week a review will be published in the journal Nature written by Drs Jerry Coyne, of the University of Chicago, and Andrew Berry, of Harvard University. They take the book's leading argument and demonstrate that it rests on a foundation of untestable "just-so" stories. They write: "A Natural History of Rape is advocacy, not science . . . a woefully incomplete perspective on human behaviour." The Nature reviewers further claim that: "Thornhill and Palmer cloak themselves in the authority of science, implying that the controversy over their ideas is purely political, and that the underlying biology is unimpeachable. This is a serious misrepresentation." The book says that rape victims tend to be in their prime reproductive years, suggesting that reproduction is central to the rapists' agenda. "But the data they present contradict this claim," say the Nature reviewers, pointing out that a large proportion of rape victims are under the age of 11. The book says that married, or young and fertile women, get overwrought about rape because they have the greatest interest in retaining control over their genetic destiny. Post-menopausal women do not get as upset, Palmer and Thornhill claim. Thus, "the psychological pain that rape victims experience appears to be an evolved defence against rape." But a check of the sources by the reviewers found that the conclusions differed critically. Women over the age of 44 are just as traumatised as those aged 12 to 44. "The
