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-Caveat Lector- Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, Thank you for your reply. The shape-shifters must be happy with the fine PR-work, you are doing for them. Maybe they will bestow a membership of some fine order upon you? However from the viewpoint of truth, you have not done well. Truth is suffering. You did not even answer the question, I have asked you twice: Yes, but did Gardner really find this path. Did he not base his works on Masonic and similar sources? Best, Ole Gerstrom, Copenhagen, Denmark - Original Message - From: nexusmagazine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter? -Caveat Lector- thanks for posting this Ole. Now everyone can see what happens to researchers of our ilk, who happen to contradict David Icke's favourite theory of the moment. And for the record, I would not say we have massively promoted Laurence Gardner. He became popular in his own right amongs NEXUS-type readers, BASED ON HIS RESEARCH! Gardner is NOT nobility, does NOT claim to stem from any royal lineage, and is an ordinary guy. His titles were bestowed upon him so as to grant access to records of various royal families of Europe. Icke, Swerdlow and Wilder should be ashamed of themselves for publishing such smear. I would have expected to see this sort of unsubstantiated trash in Weekly World News. Shame on YOU too Ole for regurgitating such rubbish. Why don't YOU do some research and find out for yourself how shoddy David Icke's research is? Why don't you or Icke debate Gardner on his research points instead of name-calling and character smear? Are you cowards? Are you on some agenda? Why stoop to such gutter tactics to disuade people from reading Gardner's work? Must be threatened by something he says methinks! IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in human sacrifice rituals. Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. by DAVID ICKE Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine. But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now extensively documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 in the early seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys". Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSC
[CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- Dear Duncan M. Roads, Editor, NEXUS Magazine, Thank you for your reply. The shape-shifters must be happy with the fine PR-work, you are doing for them. Maybe they will bestow a membership of some fine order upon you? However from the viewpoint of truth, you have not done well. Truth is suffering. Humph. You are not interested in truth. You told everyone on this list that you used to read NEXUS until we dropped David Icke from our magazine. Obviously that is a blatant lie! You did NOT ever read NEXUS because if you did, you will have seen that we did not ever publish a single article on or by David Icke. As for your questions about Laurence Gardner - why don't you ask him? He is an ordinary guy, living in an ordinary house, with his family in the UK (No he hasn't eaten his children or wife). What is the matter? Too afraid you might find out that you and your precious David Icke are wrong about Laurence Gardner and Zecharia Sitchin being shape-shifting reptiles? Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- Don't knock the Weekly World News. They publish stories which no one in the 'big media' will touch. And tehy're a lot less crazy than some of what Icke comes up with. Similarly I remember reading articles in the WWN about David Koresh before anyone had heard of him. Sre, 95% of their stories are probably invented, but what about the other 5%? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in human sacrifice rituals. Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. by DAVID ICKE Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine. But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now extensively documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 in the early seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys". He has never named names before, but has now chosen to talk to me about his experience of Sir Laurence, who has gained fame in recent years on the New Age and Holy Grail "circuit" for his books claiming that the Merovingian bloodline is the bloodline of Jesus. His best known works are Bloodlines of the Holy Grail and the Genesis of the Grail Kings: The Explosive Story of Genetic Cloning and the Ancient Bloodline of Jesus. I have most strongly contended in my own books and talks that this claim about the bloodline of "Jesus" is a diversion from the fact that the "Holy Grail" or Merovingian bloodline is a key reptilian bloodline from which vast numbers of people in royal, political, economic, religious, and military power today, genetically descend. It is the desire to maintain this reptilian genetic structure which has led to the obsessive interbreeding for aeons to the present day of the "elite" families. Sir Laurence himself calls these "Holy Grail" bloodlines the "dragon" bloodlines, but claims that this term derives from the use of crocodile fat in the royal ceremonies of ancient Egypt. I would contend that the word "dragon" has a much more fundamental meaning than that. These bloodlines, which have invariably ended up in the positions of power since pre-history, have a much more dominant reptilian genetic code which has resulted from interbreeding thousands of years ago between a reptilian race (the "Serpent" race of endless legend) and the mammal-dominated bloodlines which we call "human". Sir Laurence claims that the dragon bloodline, which he connects to the House of Stewart, has the right to the British throne and indeed that these bloodlines have the right to rule in general. According to him the senior legitimate descendant in this line is HRH Prince Michael Stewart, Count of Albany, although the background to this guy is being increasingly questioned and there are claims that he has invented the title. Sir Laurence also talks in positive terms about the drinking of menstrual blood, or "Starfire", which, interestingly, was the Illuminati code name of Arizona Wilder, the "Mother Goddess" who conducted sacrificial rituals for the Illuminati in a mind-controlled state (See Revelations of a Mother Goddess and The Biggest Secret). You can read at length what Sir Laurence is claiming on this link: (Starfire Article) In my view it is classic disinformation or what I call gin and tonic with a twist. A great deal of truth, spun with the idea that these dragon bloodlines are not literally reptilian and are, instead, the genetic stream of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. In an article in Nexus Magazine, he acknowledges that ancient legends said these lines were literally shape-shifting reptilians, but in an obvious swipe at The Biggest Secret, he says that it is astonishing in these more enlightened times that anyone can still believe it. Sorry, Sir Laurence, the evidence will overwhelm you and is already beginning to do so. Laurence Gardner has quite a CV: Chancellor of the Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, which first emerged in Egypt in around 2,200BC and is now based in Britain; Prior of the Celtic Church's Sacred Kindred of St Columba, and an "internationally known sovereign and chivalric genealogist" Chevalier Labhran de Saint Germain, "Presidential Attache to the European Council of Princes - a constitutional advisory body established in 1946" formally attached to the Noble Household Guard of the Royal House
Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- thanks for posting this Ole. Now everyone can see what happens to researchers of our ilk, who happen to contradict David Icke's favourite theory of the moment. And for the record, I would not say we have massively promoted Laurence Gardner. He became popular in his own right amongs NEXUS-type readers, BASED ON HIS RESEARCH! Gardner is NOT nobility, does NOT claim to stem from any royal lineage, and is an ordinary guy. His titles were bestowed upon him so as to grant access to records of various royal families of Europe. Icke, Swerdlow and Wilder should be ashamed of themselves for publishing such smear. I would have expected to see this sort of unsubstantiated trash in Weekly World News. Shame on YOU too Ole for regurgitating such rubbish. Why don't YOU do some research and find out for yourself how shoddy David Icke's research is? Why don't you or Icke debate Gardner on his research points instead of name-calling and character smear? Are you cowards? Are you on some agenda? Why stoop to such gutter tactics to disuade people from reading Gardner's work? Must be threatened by something he says methinks! IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in human sacrifice rituals. Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. by DAVID ICKE Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine. But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now extensively documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 in the early seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys". Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in human sacrifice rituals. Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. by DAVID ICKE Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine. But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now extensively documented mind control operation at Montauk Point from the age of 14 in the early seventies. He was one of the so-called "Montauk Boys". He has never named names before, but has now chosen to talk to me about his experience of Sir Laurence, who has gained fame in recent years on the New Age and Holy Grail "circuit" for his books claiming that the Merovingian bloodline is the bloodline of Jesus. His best known works are Bloodlines of the Holy Grail and the Genesis of the Grail Kings: The Explosive Story of Genetic Cloning and the Ancient Bloodline of Jesus. I have most strongly contended in my own books and talks that this claim about the bloodline of "Jesus" is a diversion from the fact that the "Holy Grail" or Merovingian bloodline is a key reptilian bloodline from which vast numbers of people in royal, political, economic, religious, and military power today, genetically descend. It is the desire to maintain this reptilian genetic structure which has led to the obsessive interbreeding for aeons to the present day of the "elite" families. Sir Laurence himself calls these "Holy Grail" bloodlines the "dragon" bloodlines, but claims that this term derives from the use of crocodile fat in the royal ceremonies of ancient Egypt. I would contend that the word "dragon" has a much more fundamental meaning than that. These bloodlines, which have invariably ended up in the positions of power since pre-history, have a much more dominant reptilian genetic code which has resulted from interbreeding thousands of years ago between a reptilian race (the "Serpent" race of endless legend) and the mammal-dominated bloodlines which we call "human". Sir Laurence claims that the dragon bloodline, which he connects to the House of Stewart, has the right to the British throne and indeed that these bloodlines have the right to rule in general. According to him the senior legitimate descendant in this line is HRH Prince Michael Stewart, Count of Albany, although the background to this guy is being increasingly questioned and there are claims that he has invented the title. Sir Laurence also talks in positive terms about the drinking of menstrual blood, or "Starfire", which, interestingly, was the Illuminati code name of Arizona Wilder, the "Mother Goddess" who conducted sacrificial rituals for the Illuminati in a mind-controlled state (See Revelations of a Mother Goddess and The Biggest Secret). You can read at length what Sir Laurence is claiming on this link: (Starfire Article) In my view it is classic disinformation or what I call gin and tonic with a twist. A great deal of truth, spun with the idea that these dragon bloodlines are not literally reptilian and are, instead, the genetic stream of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. In an article in Nexus Magazine, he acknowledges that ancient legends said these lines were literally shape-shifting reptilians, but in an obvious swipe at The Biggest Secret, he says that it is astonishing in these more enlightened times that anyone can still believe it. Sorry, Sir Laurence, the evidence will overwhelm you and is already beginning to do so. Laurence Gardner has quite a CV: Chancellor of the Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, which first emerged in Egypt in around 2,200BC and is now based in Britain; Prior of the Celtic Church's Sacred Kindred of St Columba, and an "internationally known sovereign and chivalric genealogist" Chevalier Labhran de Saint Germain, "Presidential Attache to the European Council of Princes - a constitutional advisory body established in 1946" formally attached to the Noble Household Guard of the Royal House
Re: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter?
-Caveat Lector- IS THIS TRUE, SIR LAURENCE? New claims that Sir Laurence Gardner is a shape-shifter who takes part in human sacrifice rituals. Major revelations about the reptilian presence on this planet. by DAVID ICKE Many people were understandably shocked and skeptical when Arizona Wilder claimed in the video, Revelations of a Mother Goddess, that Sir Laurence Gardner, the author and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon Sovereignty, was a shape-shifting reptilian who took part in Satanic human sacrifice rituals she had witnessed. Nexus Magazine, and its publisher, Duncan Roads, have been particularly scathing of these claims. Hardly surprising, when Sir Laurence Gardner has been massively promoted by Roads and his magazine. But now the author and lecturer, Stewart Swerdlow, says that he also witnessed human sacrifice and blood drinking rituals at the Montauk mind control centre on Long Island, New York, in which Sir Laurence Gardner played a major role. Swerdlow is the author of five books, The Montauk Project: The Alien Connection; The Healers Handbook; As You Sow, So You Shall Reap; Healing of the Mind; and The White Owl Legend. He says he was a victim of the now extensively Sigh, a typical example of David Icke's tactics. ie dont bother discussing facts or debating points, just smear the 'opposition'. Yes, that is how David Icke sees the ever popular Laurence Gardner. You see, if you believe Gardner's research about the blood line of Christ, you are automatically unable to believe Icke's postulations that Christ doesn't exist. Calling Gardner a shape-shifter is an easy way to get your sycophantic followers to ignore such heresy. Notice how Icke has no evidence, save that of two people: 1) Arizona Wilder - who claims to be the miss big of the illuminati ritual world. A clearly traumatised mind control victim who Icke just loves, because, guess what, she 'saw' Gardner at some of her rituals. Give me a break! 2) Stuart Swerdlow - another johnny come lately, this time, cashing in on the Montauk money bag. Notice how the original Montauk researchers all claim Swerdlow is a phoney? Swerdlow also 'remembers' seeing Gardner shape-shift at some ceremony. Icke also used to claim Zecharia Sitchin (another researcher who's work contradicts Ickes) was a shapeshifter. Funny how he went silent on that one. I have had the pleasure of having Gardner speak at two of our Conferences. He is an honourable guy, down to earth, and full of good information. If Gardner is a shape-shifting reptilian alien, then bring them on! I for one, will never believe that Gardner is a shape-shifter. Funny how two of the most controversial researchers of the last decade (in terms of historical controversy) (ie Gardner and Sitchin) have been targetted as shape-shifting, baby eating reptilian aliens. Icke obviously doesn't want you to buy THEIR books, or listen to THEIR research. Icke's own editor/right-hand research, Ivan Fraser was so alarmed at Icke going off the deep end that he left! Icke has severe arthritis. He has told several people it is affecting his brain. Why doesn't he get up on stage and add that piece of info as a precursor if he is so interested in the 'truth'? Maybe they would end up thinking for themselves for a change. Duncan Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
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-Caveat Lector- ole please don't post stuff just ripped from icke's website- we all know where it is if we want to subject ourselves to it. i hope you read nexus' post in reply to this. i have a lot of respect for the WORK that Gardner puts in... Icke, on the other hand, is a plagerist extraordinaire and i have less respect for him every time i read something else. craig - Original Message - From: Ole Gerstrøm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:11 AM Subject: [CTRL] Sir Laurence a shapeshifter? snippity snip A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om