[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-20 Thread Amelia

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Skolnick's word is the gospel on this list as long as he is
bashing conservatives.  When it is a liberal, he is
unreliable.  Ditto Konformist.  Personally, I find both of
them highly unreliable.  Skolnick insists Coca-Cola has real
cocaine in it to this day, flown in through Canada.  One of
those little strips like the police use would detect even
minute amounts and it is just not there. I tried it. They
are both buffoons.
Amelia
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 In a message dated 1/18/01 9:46:13 PM Central Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

  Skolnick - The Rev.
   Jesse Jackson Affair
   By Sherman H. Skolnick

   Are there those on the list who think of Skolnick's info
as generally
 reliable?  I believe it was Skolnick who made the dire
prediction about three
 years ago that by a certain date, Clinton would completely
dismantle the
 Social Security system.  I waited until that date to see
if the prediction
 came true and it didn't.  I never paid much attention to
him after that.
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Skolnick
makes dire predictions
 and is even specific, and then nothing happens.

 Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-19 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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Skolnick is (usually) very reliable. I remember a couple of years back when Princess 
Diana was killed in 'that' car crash. Every two bit nut, publicity junkie, conspiracy 
provocateur and loon came out of the woodwork ranting on the internet. Skolnick was 
the ONLY source, including the mainstream press, who reported within hours of the 
crash that the French police were looking for that white car which was never 
definately located.

You can learn more in an hour of reading Skolnicks page than years of higher education 
at a 'State' education facility.


On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:27:40 EST "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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In a message dated 1/18/01 9:46:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Skolnick - The Rev.
  Jesse Jackson Affair
  By Sherman H. Skolnick

  Are there those on the list who think of Skolnick's info as generally
reliable?  I believe it was Skolnick who made the dire prediction about three
years ago that by a certain date, Clinton would completely dismantle the
Social Security system.  I waited until that date to see if the prediction
came true and it didn't.  I never paid much attention to him after that.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Skolnick makes dire predictions
and is even specific, and then nothing happens.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-19 Thread Aleisha Saba

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I say, Johannes - Mohamed Fayed obviously found that FIAT for the
police.however, there was a dead man inside and the car had been
"set afire".

Remember Dodi Fayed's Chariots of Fire - he produced that movie - right
out of Psalm 46.

Use a little imagination and consider word Chariots - in Ezekial I
believe it is said "neither is there any end to their chariots"  for
even 2,000 years ago, we see too many chariots on the road.

Nobody caught the symbolism of that chariot on fire with the driver of
the alleged FIAT, a tabloid reporter within this automobile...

Unless the guy, who was probably MI6 connected as are many tabloid story
tellers for money - unless they went to the local morgue and picked out
a dead body to get Fayed off his trail.

Avengers of the Blood Royale?   Anyway I wrote a piece on that one and
decided the death of Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed had been
avenged..

So let them prove that one?   What harm had Dodi Fayed ever done to
anyone?   It was the little Princess who was the greatest threat.who
was chased by the hounds from hell...

Only an Arab would see the justice and symbolism involved here.

So much for Chariots (say shibolleth) of fire.

Saba

Might add this is an original thought and I say this, I would not want
Mohammed Big Al Fayed mad at me, for what harm has this man done to
deserve the treatment he has received..as Prince Philip said "son of
a bedoin camel driver"well at least camel drivers don't go 100 mph
down a tunnel with full tank.

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Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-19 Thread T Nohava

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   Are there those on the list who think of Skolnick's info as generally
 reliable?  I believe it was Skolnick who made the dire prediction

Maybe he's just not a good Prophet.

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Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-19 Thread Nessie

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Skolnick is more reliable when he is reporting the past then when he is
predicting the future, but then so is everybody else.

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[CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-18 Thread T Nohava



 http://www.sightings.com/general7/skolj.htm
Skolnick - The Rev.
Jesse Jackson Affair
By Sherman H. Skolnick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.skolnicksreport.com
1-18-01


Some folks because of an apparent lack of wisdom, seem to reject and violate
age-old proverbs. Such as, "PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES".


Being a life-long resident of Chicago and an activist since I was a child, I
became known as someone who was not afraid to speak out. By 1965,
self-educated in law, I brought a series of federal court class actions to
re-apportion Chicago and Illinois's terribly gerry-mandered voting
districts. The "One Man, One Vote" constitutionally-based standards were
being flagrantly violated. These violations resulted in blacks and latinos
not having a fair chance to elect a sufficient number of representatives
such as in the City Council of Chicago, as justified by the minority
population in the Windy City.


Members of minorities understood I was using my legal research and
investigation skills not only to target crooked judges and lawyers, but to
assist the aspirations of the underdogs. I choose not to be a member of the
Bar. The Federal Judges, who hate non-lawyers and me in particular, were
nevertheless forced to permit me to represent myself as a voter and all
voters similarly situated. As a result of my lawsuits, sometimes opposed by
as many as fifty lawyers [my electric mimeograph rapidly cranked out the
court papers], blacks and latinos were able to have more representatives
speaking for their interests elected to the City Council, the Illinois State
Legislature, and the U.S. Congress, and eventually even the County Board.


By 1969, there was a vast movement in Chicago of black would-be home-owners.
By racially-discrminatory practices, banks "red-lined" black districts, so
blacks could not get a home mortgage. Blacks had to buy "on contract",
paying per month on the basis of twice what the house was worth. I became a
volunteer consultant to the 25,000 members of the South Side Contract Buyers
League. In packed church mass meetings, I outlined what needs to be done. I
dared tell them that the judges hearing their cause were real estate
speculators and landlords of sizeable properties, enemies of the common man.
The judges opposed the dreams of the Chicago blacks to one-day own their own
home.


To the Establishment and their banks and mortgage companies, a grassroots
movement, like the Buyers League, is dangerous, like a prairie fire. They
have to stop it. Enter, Rev. Jesse Jackson. A series of well-informed
sources told me plenty about Jesse's rise to prominence and how he was
becoming a multi-millionaire through a series of secret business
arrangements. [I had unraveled the secrets of his ill-gotten wealth.] At a
crucial court hearing, Rev. Jackson arrived with his muscle-men, called
"Black Men Moving", grim enforcers, who overwhelmed the already packed
courtroom. The leaders of the Buyers League, present in Court, were
prepared, representing themselves, to discuss the law and the facts [they
whispered to me that they suspected Jesse's bunch were a set-up,
provocateurs].


The court scene became extreme and tense, with Jesse's people, instead of
discussing law and facts, hollaring slogans and threats. The County Sheriff
himself, not a deputy, entered the Courtroom and stood next to the Judge on
the bench. The deputies swept into the courtroom. Guess who they arrested?
Not Jesse Jackson or his military-style team, but rather the President and
Vice-President of the Buyers League who had been mostly polite and silent.
They were taken to the Sheriff's lock-up in the Court basement. At that
point, Jesse went from the courthouse to the Mayor's Office across the
street. I told a number of the Buyers League members to hurry up and push me
in my wheelchair to follow Jesse.


As I rolled up, Jesse was sitting in the Mayor's outer office. He growled at
me, "What are you doing here white face?" I responded, "Look, I am not some
white cracker bigot that you are trying to scare. I am helping the Buyers
League. YOUR southside office is just a few feet away from THEIR office.
Yet, you repeatedly refused to help them." As he entered the Mayor's inner
office he kept several women members of the Buyers League from following him
in. They began pounding on the closed door, "Jesse, come out of there! You
do not speak for us." Jeese exited the inner office as a TV crew was setting
up their lights. As he approached their microphone he glared at me, "I'm
going to get you for this!" Like some over six foot high pest-control
expert, somehow giving me advance warning, looking down at me sitting in my
wheelchair like I was some kind of helpless bug.


Sweet victory! The confrontation and commotions I caused resulted in the two
leaders of the Buyers League being released from the court basement lock-up.
After other incidents, my strategies worked. Rev. Jesse Jackson did not
succeed in taking over and snuffing out 

[CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Wingate

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   Skolnick - The Rev.
   Jesse Jackson Affair
By Sherman H. Skolnick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.skolnicksreport.com
  1-18-01


 Some folks because of an apparent lack of wisdom,
 seem to reject and violate age-old proverbs. Such
 as, "PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT
 THROW STONES".


 Being a life-long resident of Chicago and an activist
 since I was a child, I became known as someone
 who was not afraid to speak out. By 1965,
 self-educated in law, I brought a series of federal
 court class actions to re-apportion Chicago and
 Illinois's terribly gerry-mandered voting districts. The
 "One Man, One Vote" constitutionally-based
 standards were being flagrantly violated. These
 violations resulted in blacks and latinos not having a
 fair chance to elect a sufficient number of
 representatives such as in the City Council of
 Chicago, as justified by the minority population in
 the Windy City.


 Members of minorities understood I was using my
 legal research and investigation skills not only to
 target crooked judges and lawyers, but to assist the
 aspirations of the underdogs. I choose not to be a
 member of the Bar. The Federal Judges, who hate
 non-lawyers and me in particular, were nevertheless
 forced to permit me to represent myself as a voter
 and all voters similarly situated. As a result of my
 lawsuits, sometimes opposed by as many as fifty
 lawyers [my electric mimeograph rapidly cranked
 out the court papers], blacks and latinos were able
 to have more representatives speaking for their
 interests elected to the City Council, the Illinois
 State Legislature, and the U.S. Congress, and
 eventually even the County Board.


 By 1969, there was a vast movement in Chicago of
 black would-be home-owners. By
 racially-discrminatory practices, banks "red-lined"
 black districts, so blacks could not get a home
 mortgage. Blacks had to buy "on contract", paying
 per month on the basis of twice what the house was
 worth. I became a volunteer consultant to the
 25,000 members of the South Side Contract Buyers
 League. In packed church mass meetings, I outlined
 what needs to be done. I dared tell them that the
 judges hearing their cause were real estate
 speculators and landlords of sizeable properties,
 enemies of the common man. The judges opposed
 the dreams of the Chicago blacks to one-day own
 their own home.


 To the Establishment and their banks and mortgage
 companies, a grassroots movement, like the Buyers
 League, is dangerous, like a prairie fire. They have
 to stop it. Enter, Rev. Jesse Jackson. A series of
 well-informed sources told me plenty about Jesse's
 rise to prominence and how he was becoming a
 multi-millionaire through a series of secret business
 arrangements. [I had unraveled the secrets of his
 ill-gotten wealth.] At a crucial court hearing, Rev.
 Jackson arrived with his muscle-men, called "Black
 Men Moving", grim enforcers, who overwhelmed the
 already packed courtroom. The leaders of the
 Buyers League, present in Court, were prepared,
 representing 

Re: [CTRL] Skolnick - The Rev. Jesse Jackson Affair

2001-01-18 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 1/18/01 9:46:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Skolnick - The Rev.
  Jesse Jackson Affair
  By Sherman H. Skolnick

  Are there those on the list who think of Skolnick's info as generally
reliable?  I believe it was Skolnick who made the dire prediction about three
years ago that by a certain date, Clinton would completely dismantle the
Social Security system.  I waited until that date to see if the prediction
came true and it didn't.  I never paid much attention to him after that.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Skolnick makes dire predictions
and is even specific, and then nothing happens.

Samantha

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