Re: [CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq

1998-12-18 Thread Hilary Thomas

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From: Gerald Harp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq


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In a message dated 12/17/98 1:38:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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 The peoples of Iraq face the same dilemma that Americans do - removing a
  unfit leader (some believe his is unfit) from office.  Each of our
peoples
  are presented with problems in doing just that.  Though considering the
  growing number of corpses surrounding the Clinton Administration I
suspect
  that these problems that one could encounter are very similar indeed.

It's really inconvenient when the facts get in the way, as Reagan would
say.

HmmI'm not sure what you are referring to in my post here as you
later suggest that the corpse concept is an urban legend.  Please clarify.

Most Americans are not confronted with the problem of removing their
democratically elected leader.  Most Americans are confronted with a
radical
right-wing cabal and a compliant press who are attempting to remove the
President on a trivial legalism.

Indeed.  It is a dilemma.  Does one boot out a President on a "trivial
legalism" because the supposed greater offenses have not been proven?  Is
this the only way the House and Senate can get rid of him without dragging
out all the dirty laundry which would implicate numerous people or is all of
this "dirty laundry" a bunch of conspiracy nonsense?

Re: trivial legalism.  Most people would lie about a sexually indiscretion.
It doesn't make it right but, it is understandable.  However, I will
maintain my position that Clinton is the President of the United States and
therefore must abide by a higher standard of conduct for in not doing so he
directly affects the lives of countless millions of people adversely.  It
may not seem fair but, it is necessary IMHO and it's a position that I
continue to maintain.  If Clinton does not want to abide by these strict
"rules" then he needs to step down from office.

As for the corpses, i suggest that you visit the urban legends site.

I have.  I have also done considerable research in the area.

Thanks for the feedback.

Hilary

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Re: [CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq

1998-12-17 Thread Gerald Harp

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In a message dated 12/17/98 1:38:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The peoples of Iraq face the same dilemma that Americans do - removing a
  unfit leader (some believe his is unfit) from office.  Each of our peoples
  are presented with problems in doing just that.  Though considering the
  growing number of corpses surrounding the Clinton Administration I suspect
  that these problems that one could encounter are very similar indeed.

It's really inconvenient when the facts get in the way, as Reagan would say.

Most Americans are not confronted with the problem of removing their
democratically elected leader.  Most Americans are confronted with a radical
right-wing cabal and a compliant press who are attempting to remove the
President on a trivial legalism.

As for the corpses, i suggest that you visit the urban legends site.

Jerry harp

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[CTRL] Some Thought on Iraq

1998-12-17 Thread Hilary Thomas

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Some thoughts on Iraq:

1)  Because Saddam has a tendency to lop off weapons at anyone including his
own citizens his "toys" need to be taken away from him.  He's been a very
bad boy.  Therefore, intervention is needed.  However, bombing installations
is probably not the best approach.  If containment of these weapons is truly
the goal then bombing them is not very wise.  "Clean up" of biological and
chemical weapons and their components is a  painstaking procedure and one
where certain control mechanisms need to be in place for safety.  Unless the
dropped bombs and resulting fires completely incinerate these items there
could be contamination problems galore - not to mention digging through tons
of debris to get to the components.

2)  During Desert Storm there was little or no talk about "eliminating"
Saddam.  There is an international agreement that one leader does not design
plans, at least overtly, to assassinate another leader.  Yet, in the CNN
coverage last night there was amble chatting about doing preciously this.  I
found this turn-about rather interesting.  Saddam has been such a pain in
the butt over the past years that somehow it is now acceptable for world
leaders to opening discuss "taking him out" and dismantling his "evil
regime."

3)  The peoples of Iraq face the same dilemma that Americans do - removing a
unfit leader (some believe his is unfit) from office.  Each of our peoples
are presented with problems in doing just that.  Though considering the
growing number of corpses surrounding the Clinton Administration I suspect
that these problems that one could encounter are very similar indeed.

Hilary


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