Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-18 Thread Theodor Parada, MD

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The spore is the bacterium!!!

On 18 Oct 2001, at 10:41, RevCOAL wrote:
> Excuse me if I'm skeptical...seems to me the only thing hot steam from
> a household iron would do would be to steam the spores open, thereby
> releasing their deadly contents, but not be hot enough to kill the
> bacteria
>

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Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-18 Thread thew

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steam is hotter than boiling water, isn't it?
you just have to steam it long enough
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> Excuse me if I'm skeptical...seems to me the only thing hot steam from a
> household iron would do would be to steam the spores open, thereby
> releasing their deadly contents, but not be hot enough to kill the
> bacteria
>
>
> June
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Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-18 Thread RevCOAL

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Excuse me if I'm skeptical...seems to me the only thing hot steam from a
household iron would do would be to steam the spores open, thereby
releasing their deadly contents, but not be hot enough to kill the
bacteria


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Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-17 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 10/18/01 12:06:03 AM Central Daylight Time,
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> Would 'Downy Wrinkle Releaser'  work?

Sounds like it's heat plus moisture that kills the buggers.  A spray wouldn't
provide the heat.

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Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-17 Thread Deborah Zari

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Would 'Downy Wrinkle Releaser'  work?


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>
>http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=humannews&StoryID=297117&fromEm
>
>ail=true
>
>Germ Expert Says Panicky People Can Iron Mail
>Last Updated: October 17, 2001 09:26 AM ET
>  Print This Article
>
>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A leading bioterror expert said on Tuesday people who
>feel panicky about opening their mail amid the anthrax scare can use a hot
>steam iron and a moist layer of fabric to kill germs.
>
>Ken Alibek, a top former Soviet germ warfare scientist who is now a
>U.S.-based author and researcher trying to develop defenses against
>bioterror, told a surprised congressional briefing on nonproliferation that a
>hot, moist steam iron and moist fabric could kill anthrax spores.
>
>Pressed by surprised lawmakers who were not sure if they had heard him right,
>he repeated that several times.
>
>"Iron your letters," he said, adding that a microwave oven was not as good as
>an iron and that including moisture was essential because spores could
>survive dry heat.
>
>For large amounts of mail, in big cities or postal distribution centers, he
>recommended setting up portable gamma radiation units to sterilize letters.
>"This problem could be solved," he said.
>
>Alibek repeated the advice of many other experts that people should not buy
>gas masks. But he said that if his biotech company and two others doing
>similar work got "significant funding," they probably could bring to market
>new antiviral drugs that would work against several potential bioterror
>weapons within two years. "We've had interesting results with animals," he
>said.
>
>Connecticut Republican Christopher Shays, who convened the hearing, noted
>that the chances of anyone getting anthrax-contaminated mail were extremely
>small.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [CTRL] Steam Iron Your Mail

2001-10-17 Thread Samantha L.

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http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=humannews&StoryID=297117&fromEm

ail=true

Germ Expert Says Panicky People Can Iron Mail
Last Updated: October 17, 2001 09:26 AM ET
 Print This Article

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A leading bioterror expert said on Tuesday people who
feel panicky about opening their mail amid the anthrax scare can use a hot
steam iron and a moist layer of fabric to kill germs.

Ken Alibek, a top former Soviet germ warfare scientist who is now a
U.S.-based author and researcher trying to develop defenses against
bioterror, told a surprised congressional briefing on nonproliferation that a
hot, moist steam iron and moist fabric could kill anthrax spores.

Pressed by surprised lawmakers who were not sure if they had heard him right,
he repeated that several times.

"Iron your letters," he said, adding that a microwave oven was not as good as
an iron and that including moisture was essential because spores could
survive dry heat.

For large amounts of mail, in big cities or postal distribution centers, he
recommended setting up portable gamma radiation units to sterilize letters.
"This problem could be solved," he said.

Alibek repeated the advice of many other experts that people should not buy
gas masks. But he said that if his biotech company and two others doing
similar work got "significant funding," they probably could bring to market
new antiviral drugs that would work against several potential bioterror
weapons within two years. "We've had interesting results with animals," he
said.

Connecticut Republican Christopher Shays, who convened the hearing, noted
that the chances of anyone getting anthrax-contaminated mail were extremely
small.





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