Re: [CTRL] The Bible 'not suitable for children'

2001-04-01 Thread Nessie

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>And things really get tough when the sex is outside the framework of
church laws. 

Sexual repression is social control. If you can get people to do
something as totally unnatural as not screw, you can get them to do
anything. They have surrendered their persoal autonomy at the very
deepest level.

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Re: [CTRL] The Bible 'not suitable for children'

2001-04-01 Thread Johannes Schmidt IV

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On Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:58:46 EDT "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try some of the informative bible quizs to be found

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html

Of especial interest are the Role Of Women quiz and the Wrath of God (old testament) 
quiz.

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Re: [CTRL] The Bible 'not suitable for children'

2001-04-01 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 03/30/2001 12:03:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<< Father Maggioini said sex was "the very first thing we read in Genesis – 
we read about Adam and Eve being naked and full of sin and shame". In other 
words, the threat of disorder is always "lurking in the joy of sex". He said 
the Bible assumed a natural attitude to sex but warned of the "terrible 
destructive force which sex can assume outside the framework of God's laws". 
>>

And things really get tough when the sex is outside the framework of church 
laws.  Prudy

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[CTRL] The Bible 'not suitable for children'

2001-03-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt IV

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1847885%5E2703,00.html

The Bible 'not suitable for children'
By Richard Owen
30mar01

THE Bible is an adults-only book that is "so full of eroticism" it should not be given 
to children, according to a Roman Catholic theologian.

Don Bruno Maggioni said he would today tell a conference, titled Eroticism in the Old 
Testament, that scripture was full of sex and violence. He said the keynote of the 
conference was the quotation from The Song of Songs – "Kiss me with the kisses of your 
mouth".
The conference will be held in the northern city of Mantua under the auspices of the 
Italian National Bible Association. Father Maggioni, a noted biblical scholar, told 
Avvenire, the Catholic daily: "The Bible is a work for adults not just because of its 
sexual pages but because of the kind of questions it raises about mankind."

But there was nothing scandalous about biblical sex. "The Bible uses the word to 
'know', as in 'carnal knowledge', which implies a profound relationship of communion 
and knowledge between man and woman, which, in turn, is a reflection of God's knowing 
relationship with mankind." He said the Bible's erotic vocabulary had once been 
suppressed by priests and confessors "when the climate was more chaste, and reading 
rather crude expressions might be thought scandalous".

"But in reality, the Bible uses the language of the people – it is sincere, 
spontaneous, a language for all people, for all times. It only mentions sex when it is 
strictly necessary: when it forms part of a story – like the episode of Noah's 
daughters, or for diffusing information about laws of matters of health and hygiene, 
or to describe the sins of some of its characters like David and Bathsheba," he said.

The Book of Samuel tells how King David had a passionate affair with Bathsheba, wife 
of Uriah, a Hittite mercenary in his army, and then put her husband in the front line 
of battle so he would be killed. They married and their second son was Solomon, author 
of the Song of Songs.

Father Maggioini said sex was "the very first thing we read in Genesis – we read about 
Adam and Eve being naked and full of sin and shame". In other words, the threat of 
disorder is always "lurking in the joy of sex". He said the Bible assumed a natural 
attitude to sex but warned of the "terrible destructive force which sex can assume 
outside the framework of God's laws".

The Times

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