Re: [CTRL] The New [Pseudo] Patriotism

2001-12-17 Thread eric stewart

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> I've found myself spending time putting my finger on
> what is troublesome about the new patriotism. It is
> superficial. From somewhere I recall hearing a
> sarcastic, 'Instant patriotism. Add water and stir.'
> Real patriotism is not simply worn on your lapel, or
> flown from your car. Real patriotism costs
> something.
>

well said!


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Re: [CTRL] The New [Pseudo] Patriotism

2001-12-16 Thread Saba

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Well Extremist - patriotism for profit.big bucks, expecially when
all those flags they fly come from Red China and look at the markup -
this is how that piece of slime Marc Rich and his father made big bucks
on hostage situations and wars.big bucks.

So cui bono - why that salvage alone at the World Trade Center is making
the bastards rich.

Like my junk man once put anotice on my door MANDATE - you are hereby
ordered to recycle your garbage and trash and wash bottles and cans and
I wrote tht sob and said if he wanted his garbage laundered as they do
his money - have his wife do it..a junk man give me orders?

So is this America talking or is this the Mafia Murder Inc. talking to
us this new voice of patriotismbe sure, it is all for the God
Almight Buck.

they have put a flag over their heads and do it all for Old Glory.

Saba

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[CTRL] The New [Pseudo] Patriotism

2001-12-16 Thread THe eXTReMiST

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The New [Pseudo] Patriotism
By Steven Yates

Patriotism is suddenly in vogue. American flags are everywhere - on clothing, 
automobiles, storefronts, billboard advertisements, and so on. I believe I have seen 
more American flags in the past two months than in the previous two years. The same 
goes for the phrases 'United We Stand' and 'God Bless America.' They are everywhere.

I've found myself spending time putting my finger on what is troublesome about the new 
patriotism. It is superficial. From somewhere I recall hearing a sarcastic, 'Instant 
patriotism. Add water and stir.' Real patriotism is not simply worn on your lapel, or 
flown from your car. Real patriotism costs something.

But that isn't it. Many things in life are superficial. That doesn't necessarily make 
them bad. More to the point is that the new patriots seem to applaud the federal 
powergrab of the past two months. At least, the new patriotism has no serious problems 
with it. After all, we're at war now, it says. It suggests we can no longer afford the 
convenience of a distinction between society and government, or between patriotism 
understood as loyalty to the ideals under which the country was founded and blind 
submission to the yahoos currently running it. So relatively few are complaining that 
the much-touted Patriot Act of 2001 which Bush the Younger just signed has all the 
ingredients for setting up a police state in America in the name of 'homeland 
security.' The entire campaign has the full backing of the dominant media, where you 
will find statements like, "Big government is back, and high time, too." Or: "The time 
has come to end the government-bashing of the past 20 years." [The tru
th, of course, is that the size and scope of the federal government increased over the 
past 20 years - especially during the 1990s.]

So let's revisit real patriotism - that kind that was here all along, but wasn't in 
vogue because it didn't kowtow to whatever came out of Washington, D.C. Real 
patriotism, alluded to already, is loyalty to your country understood as loyalty to 
the set of ideals under which it was founded. In our case, this means loyalty to the 
ideas of God-given rights that inhere in individuals, not in groups. It means 
responsibilities derived from a morality with a transcendent source, not 'values' made 
up by human beings that differ from culture to culture [relativism,] or deduced in 
some mysterious way from human nature. It means commitment to the idea that government 
may be a necessary evil, given sinful man, but as the product of men, government 
should be limited to a few and carefully specified functions. That was the purpose of 
the U.S. Constitution, to describe the structure and functions of the various branches 
of government, and [after the struggle between the so-called federalists and
 so-called anti-federalists] to enumerate rights. And it is important that the portion 
of the Constitution known as the Bill of Rights enumerates rights; it does not create 
them out of thin air. It is one of the more interesting delusions of modernity that it 
is possible for human beings, especially those in government, to create rights. 
Following these provisions consistently means maintaining a society committed to the 
rule of law, not rule by political elites or gangs of criminals [sometimes they are 
the same thing.]

Finally, it should go without saying that no political leader loyal to the 
Constitution is going to embark on an agenda which any thinking person must soon 
realize cannot be accomplished without setting up a global empire. The desire to 
retaliate against the thugs who destroyed the World Trade Center and part of the 
Pentagon is quite understandable. I understand, 'Let's roll.' However, an undeclared 
'war' to eradicate all the bullies, tyrants, sociopaths and misfits out there is not 
the answer. Assuming that the al Qaeda network is responsible for what happened on 
September 11, we are talking about a highly decentralized entity that spans many 
countries, and possibly connects to other such entities not taking marching orders 
from Osama bin Laden. No one, of course, knows for sure. But the limited 'successes' 
in Afghanistan are already being cited as a possible pretext to a new invasion of Iraq 
- even though I am aware of no evidence connecting Saddam Hussein to the September 11 
at
tacks. It could be a pretext to an invasion of still more nations. Talk about a recipe 
for generating still more hatred of the 'Great Satan' in the Muslim world!

The question has been asked before: how would we even know when we defeated this 
network? A cessation of activities might just mean that its remaining leaders have 
gone underground until the heat died down. Bush Jr.'s Marines might get bin Laden 
before the year is out. My guess: they'll 'accidentally' shoot him rather than bring 
him to the U.S. for what would quickly turn into the biggest media circus since the 
O.J. Simps