Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) - belated
I live in Central Florida and heard on local talk radio earlier in the week that NCCI has already apologized for and changed their policies regarding the American flag. Let's not badger them unneccessarily. In a message dated 9/17/01 10:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here are email addresses for the NCCI offices in Boca Raton, Fl in an easier to deal with format:
Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) - belated
-Caveat Lector- Well that is nice they changed their policies? Hey, they get US contracts, let them fly US flag - what flag would they prefer be flied - the Jolly Pirate? Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Note. Thanks to the several who forwarded this, see below for email addresses for NCCI, thanks to Chester L McWhorter Sr. - Tony] Monday, September 17 More from TheWire Saturday, September 15 NCCI pulls workers' flags By Phil Galewitz, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Saturday, September 15, 2001 http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/saturday/business_3.html On a day of national mourning and prayer, a Boca Raton company had its managers confiscate some American flags from employees' cubicles, saying other workers might find them offensive. NCCI Holdings Inc., a company that compiles workers compensation insurance data, told its 850 Boca Raton employees that displays of nationalism had no place in the office. Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions and anything else that could be divisive or mean different things to different people are not appropriate in our work environment, Chief Executive Officer Bill Schrempf said Friday in a memo to employees. Several employees complained about the flag prohibition. One employee said she was suspended and told to go home Friday morning when she refused to remove a small flag from her desk. The company refused to confirm whether it had asked any employees to leave. It just boggles my mind that here in America or anywhere in America, one would be restricted from displaying it, one employee wrote in an e-mail to Schrempf that also was sent to The Palm Beach Post. Too many people these days, including yourself, it seems, seem to forget what the flag symbolizes and that many men and women served to defend that flag. I think you should show a little more respect. NCCI spokesman Michael Bullard said the company has a long-standing policy of prohibiting employees from bringing political or religious symbols into the workplace. Fewer than 10 flags were removed from cubicles, Bullard said. It seems to me only a small number of people are upset about this, he said. Palm Beach Gardens human resources consultant Rita Craig said companies need to understand that right now, more than ever, people want to celebrate the fact that they're American. Let's face it, this is the United States. Our flag signifies our freedom, Craig said. It's not saying that other countries are bad. Other large Palm Beach County employers, including Delray Beach-based Office Depot and the Palm Beach County School District, allowed their workers to display the flag at their desks. At FPL Group Inc. in Juno Beach, some employees were given small flags, said Pat Davis, a company spokeswoman. At Office Depot, the company sent an e-mail to employees Thursday encouraging them to wear red, white and blue clothing on Friday, said company spokesman Lauren Garvey. NCCI observed a moment of silence at noon Friday, gathering its workers in the headquarters' atrium. The company also has offered to help businesses affected by the terrorist attacks. The attacks at the World Trade Center and Pentagon will generate thousands of workers compensation claims. NCCI said it was not directly affected by Tuesday's terrorist attack, though some employees lost family and friends, Bullard said. Gov. Jeb Bush this week urged all Floridians with flags to fly them. Radio stations and various groups have urged Americans to display the flag this week as a sign of national strength and unity. NCCI is the only Florida company named in the 2001 Best Workplace for Financial Professionals by CFO magazine in its September issue. It was singled out for its quality of work life. NCCI's company practices enable each employee to create for themselves the proper balance of work and family life, CFO said. NCCI provides on-site amenities, including child care, gym and a Starbucks cafe. It also has an employee-community volunteer program and flexible work scheduling. Staff writers Dan Weil, Amy Martinez and Jeff Ostrowski contributed to this story. Via Chester L McWhorter Sr: NCCI Contacts For those of you interested, here is a list of contacts at NCCI, the organization that is confiscating American flags from its employees. have already expressed my outrage to each of them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender - A.K. Pritchard] -- A.K. Pritchard The Republican Web pages and email list And to the Repbulic for which it stands http://members.ll.net/chiliast/ God, Guns, Government History http://members.ll.net/chiliast/GGGH/index2.html Republic USA http://www.republicusa.org/ To subscribe to The Republican email list - just ask! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annoy a Fascist: Just Say No to Gun Control! Annoy a
Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Here are email addresses for the NCCI offices in Boca Raton, Fl in an easier to deal with format: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, thanks to J.L. Abbott, here is the company toll free number, and snail mail address: Customer Service, 800 NCCI 1-2-3 Fax: 561- 893-1191 To Mail: NCCI Holdings, Inc. 901 Peninsula Corporate Circle Boca Raton, FL 33487 Thanks to list member: J.L. Abbott Combat Air Support Viet Nam 1967 For those who missed it the original article title and URL are as follows: NCCI pulls workers' flags By Phil Galewitz, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Saturday, September 15, 2001 http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/saturday/business_3.html Tony -- A.K. Pritchard The Republican Web pages and email list And to the Repbulic for which it stands http://members.ll.net/chiliast/ God, Guns, Government History http://members.ll.net/chiliast/GGGH/index2.html Republic USA http://www.republicusa.org/ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- From: foxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:12:06 -0400 Organization: self MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_007C_01C13F7A.5A04AB60 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_007C_01C13F7A.5A04AB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From their web site: NCCI Changes Position, Gives Employees American Flags=20 (Boca Raton, FL) NCCI Holdings, Inc., today announced that it has = changed its position on flags in its workplace and offered any employees = who wanted them American flags and red-white-and-blue lapel ribbons as = they entered the workplace this morning. President CEO Bill Schrempf said he was meeting with employees this = morning to explain the company's change and apologize for not permitting = them to display the American flag on Friday during the National Day of = Prayer and Remembrance. In announcing the change, Schrempf indicated that NCCI's senior = management team met over the weekend and decided to reverse the = company's longstanding position, which had been intended to protect = employees.=20 This morning, the company took the following actions concerning the = display of the American flag by its employees: 1. Any interested employee can display an American flag on their = desktop. Flags will be provided for this purpose, if employees would = like to have one to display. 2. Red, white blue lapel remembrance ribbons are being provided for = those who want to wear them. - Original Message - From: foxter Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:35 AM To: Gary O'D; Elaine Subject: THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS AND MUST STOP !!! - Original Message -=20 From: David McDivitt=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 12:46 AM Subject: (fwd) Florida Company Bans Stars Stripes! To: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Florida Company Bans Stars Stripes! From: Matthew Gaylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:13:09 -0400 [Note from Matthew Gaylor: It is the right of a business to set any=20 sort of rules they wish. Conversely it is also a right for other=20 businesses and individuals to boycott any anti-patriotic company. I=20 urge you to take the time and call or write NCCI Holdings, Inc.] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Florida Company Bans Stars Stripes! Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:11:03 -0700 Sunday, September 16, 2001 Florida Company Bans Old Glory From Offices In a shocking example of out-of-control political correctness, a Boca Raton, Florida company ordered managers to confiscate American flags from employees' desks, calling them divisive symbols that might = offend someone's tender sensibilities. At a time when Americans all across the nation were being asked to display Old Glory in honor of the thousands who died in New York and Washington Tuesday, this outrageous assault on the company's = employees' patriotism was justified by a top official of NCCI Holdings, Inc. as a gesture of compassion for those employees who might be offended by the sight of a flag for which tens of thousands of Americans laid down = their lives to defend in past wars. The company which monitors workers compensation insurance data, told = its 850 Boca Raton employees that displays of nationalism had no place in the office. Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions = and anything else that could be divisive or mean different things to different people are not appropriate in our work environment, wrote Chief Executive Officer Bill Schrempf in a memo to employees, = according to the Palm Beach Post. It just boggles my mind that here in America or anywhere in America, one would be restricted from displaying it, one employee wrote in an e-mail to Schrempf a copy of which was sent to The Palm Beach Post. = Too many people these days, including yourself, it seems, seem to forget what the flag symbolizes and that many men and women served to defend that flag. I think you should show a little more respect. Incredibly, one employee told the Post she was suspended and told to = go home Friday morning when she refused to remove a small flag from her desk. The company refused to confirm whether it had asked any = employees to leave, the Post reported. NCCI spokesman Michael Bullard told the Post the company has a long-standing policy of prohibiting employees from bringing political
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Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd)
That snivelingNCCI Company reneged. They will doubtless be back with other measures in the future, the leopard can't change its spots. * NCCI Changes Position,Gives Employees American Flags (Boca Raton, FL) NCCI Holdings, Inc., today announced that it has changed its position on flags in its workplace and offered any employees who wanted them American flags and red-white-and-blue lapel ribbons as they entered the workplace this morning. President CEO Bill Schrempf said he was meeting with employees this morning to explain the company's change and apologize for not permitting them to display the American flag on Friday during the National Day of Prayer and Remembrance. In announcing the change, Schrempf indicated that NCCI's senior management team met over the weekend and decided to reverse the company's longstanding position, which had been intended to protect employees. This morning, the company took the following actions concerning the display of the American flag by its employees:1. Any interested employee can display an American flag on their desktop. Flags will be provided for this purpose, if employees would like to have one to display.2. Red, white blue lapel remembrance ribbons are being provided for those who want to wear them. - Original Message - - Original Message - From: Yardbird To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) -Caveat Lector-[Note. Thanks to the several who forwarded this, see below for emailaddresses for NCCI, thanks to Chester L McWhorter Sr. - Tony]Monday, September 17More from TheWireSaturday, September 15NCCI pulls workers' flagsBy Phil Galewitz, Palm Beach Post Staff WriterSaturday, September 15, 2001http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost/epaper/editions/saturday/business_3.htmlOn a day of national mourning and prayer, a Boca Raton company had itsmanagers confiscate some American flags from employees' cubicles, sayingother workers might find them offensive.NCCI Holdings Inc., a company that compiles workers compensation insurancedata, told its 850 Boca Raton employees that displays of nationalism had noplace in the office."Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions andanything else that could be divisive or mean different things to differentpeople are not appropriate in our work environment," Chief ExecutiveOfficer Bill Schrempf said Friday in a memo to employees.Several employees complained about the flag prohibition. One employee saidshe was suspended and told to go home Friday morning when she refused toremove a small flag from her desk. The company refused to confirm whetherit had asked any employees to leave."It just boggles my mind that here in America or anywhere in America, onewould be restricted from displaying it," one employee wrote in an e-mail toSchrempf that also was sent to The Palm Beach Post. "Too many people thesedays, including yourself, it seems, seem to forget what the flag symbolizesand that many men and women served to defend that flag. I think you shouldshow a little more respect."NCCI spokesman Michael Bullard said the company has a long-standing policyof prohibiting employees from bringing political or religious symbols intothe workplace.Fewer than 10 flags were removed from cubicles, Bullard said. "It seems tome only a small number of people are upset about this," he said.Palm Beach Gardens human resources consultant Rita Craig said companiesneed to understand that "right now, more than ever, people want tocelebrate the fact that they're American.""Let's face it, this is the United States. Our flag signifies our freedom,"Craig said. "It's not saying that other countries are bad."Other large Palm Beach County employers, including Delray Beach-basedOffice Depot and the Palm Beach County School District, allowed theirworkers to display the flag at their desks.At FPL Group Inc. in Juno Beach, some employees were given small flags,said Pat Davis, a company spokeswoman.At Office Depot, the company sent an e-mail to employees Thursdayencouraging them to wear red, white and blue clothing on Friday, saidcompany spokesman Lauren Garvey.NCCI observed a moment of silence at noon Friday, gathering its workers inthe headquarters' atrium. The company also has offered to help businessesaffected by the terrorist attacks. The attacks at the World Trade Centerand Pentagon will generate thousands of workers compensation claims.NCCI said it was not directly affected by Tuesday's terrorist attack,though some employees lost family and friends, Bullard said.Gov. Jeb Bush this week urged all Floridians with flags to fly them. Radiostations and various groups have urged Am
