Re: [CTRL] Ukranian newsgroup: Alumina & Russian Mafia & American Politicians (Marc Rich)

2001-02-09 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Bill Cosby's son was alleged to have been murdred by Russian
Mafianote the kid was driving home lane one night, in a green
Mercedes, and had tire trouble...his assassin was virtually waiting
for him and later you see this trashy looking woman with a fur coat up
over her knees who looked like something out of your local cat
house.

So then it comes out Bill Cosby had illegitimate daughter - and Cosby
was oh so silent re the death of his son, whom he stated, was "his hero"
and put in charge a kid named Caputo as head of some kind of a
remembrance committeenow Caputo is an old mob in in Youngstown, Ohio
area - Moosey Caputo

But NBC seems infested with drug dealing and drug users, and as of late
many murders - and then we had Marv Allen.this guy I iked who was
just murdered by his wife, at peak of his career - all drug related
stuffand yet, nobody does anything about from whence these drugs
come?

Was Cosby's kid in on drugs?   Seems as though he had some pretty trashy
friends.and this woman, a white woman - who looked something like
one would expect to find in your local SoHo district - what is giong on?

Clintons brother drug dealer in cocaine and Clinton selling polluted
blood from homosexuals, tc. in prison stricken with HIV to
Canadiansif your kid had gotten some of othat blood what would you
do?

Me, I would form a vigilante group - for as they say in Romans 12 -
vengance is mine?   For aren't we all insruments in God's hand to do his
work?

What is going on here that Jesse Jackson was so desperate Gore get into
office he threatens the American people and George Bush.this thief,
this self ordained preacher - this common criminal - ever wonder who
writes his speeches?Off the cuff, the man is like street person in
his $1,400 suits paid for by the poor.

Or stolen perhaps with money from feds?
How much did Gore pay NAACP and Jesse and Sharpton to support gun laws
and bring in street people to vote for a cigarette pack?

Hope a lot comes from this election - but at least we got the garbage
out of the Oval Officeand I hope the Great Eagle Challenger, the one
who bit Clinton, is okayfor that great bird knew, the enemy was
within.

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[CTRL] Ukranian newsgroup: Alumina & Russian Mafia & American Politicians (Marc Rich)

2001-02-09 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[Another trail to pursue?: "...the Kislins are quite generous
donors to American politicians."]

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From: Stefan Lemieszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alumina & Russian Mafia & American Politicians - Kislin -Chorny -
Public-i -1Dec99
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:22:29 -0800
Organization: Look Communications - http://www.look.ca


Further to Ukraine's privatization of ZAP (Zaporizhia Alumina
Plant) and MAP (Mykolaiv Alumina Plant) and their ties to
organized crime figures, fugitives such as Marc Rich, and
mob-linked businessmen such as Chorny (Chornoi; Chorney;
Chornoy), Knut Royce from the Center for Public Integrity
provides additional links between the Russian mafia and American
politicians.

Readers have previously encountered the Brighton Beach Russian
Mafia Don, Vyacheslav "Yaponchik" Ivankov. Less known is
Ivankov's gang "member/associate" Semyon (Sam) Kislin, an
immigrant from Odesa, Ukraine who is well known among the Russian
Jewish community in South Brooklyn.  According to FBI reports,
Kislin's New York commodities firm laundering millions of dollars
and Kislin himself co-sponsored a U.S. visa for Anton Malevsky (a
contract killer and head of one of the most bloodthirsty Mafiya
familias, Moscow's Izmaylovo gang).

Knut Royce writes:

"A 1996 Interpol report claims that Kislin’s firm, Trans
Commodities, Inc., was used by two reputed mobsters from
Uzbekistan, Lev and Mikhail Chernoy, for fraud and embezzlement.
And a confidential 1994 FBI intelligence report on the Brooklyn,
N.Y., mob organization headed by Vyacheslav Ivankov, the
imprisoned godfather of Russian organized crime in the United
States, lists Kislin as a “member/associate’’ of Ivankov’s gang.

It claims that his company co-sponsored a Russian crime boss and
contract killer for a U.S. visa and asserts that he was a “close
associate” of the late notorious arms smuggler Babeck Seroush,
who later settled in Russia."

[ . . . ]

Because nothing critical of Kislin has appeared in the U.S.
press, New Yorkers, especially politicians and the Russian-Jewish
émigré community in Brooklyn, view him as a prosperous
commodities trader who is a generous supporter of the United
Jewish Appeal and of the state of Israel. He has contributed
hundreds of thousands of dollars to the UJA, according to
published accounts, and donated $1.5 million to build a college
library in Sha’ar Hanegev in Israel.

But in Russia some of the major newspapers, including Rossiyskaya
Gazeta, which is owned by the government, have cast him in a
darker light. Gazeta claims that Semyon Kislin and the Chernoy
brothers formed Trans Commodities in 1990 as an early vehicle for
the takeover of the metals industry as it was being privatized.

[ . . . ]

According to Russian authorities, the Chernoys in the early 1990s
defrauded the Russian Central Bank of more than $100 million
through an elaborate scam involving dozens of fictitious
companies. The brothers then used the funds as seed money as they
and a London-based holding company, Trans World Group, through a
maze of offshore companies and alliances, rapidly gained control
of Russia’s aluminum industry and acquired a large stake in the
processing and distribution of other metals and petroleum
products.

Kislin said Mikhail Chernoy tried to enlist him as “cover” or
“legitimate front” in the plan to grab control of the aluminum
industry, but that he declined. “I said is not for me,’’ Kislin
said. “I cannot do with aluminum because aluminum is a very
dangerous business (in Russia).’’ Indeed, what followed has been
dubbed “The Aluminum Wars’’ by the Russian press, as many
businessmen, most of whom opposed the Chernoy takeover, were
killed.

Kislin said that the brothers obtained licenses “to buy the
aluminum for $10 and sell it for $1,500” by bribing top Russian
officials. “The corruption is unbelievable,’’ he said.


Royce also points out that the Kislins are quite generous donors
to American politicians.

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