Re: [CTRL] WT: Library living quarters for Clinton questioned

[Bill Howard]

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<< He needs this much for all the visiting interns


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  Mr. Rutherford said the living

  > space would cover "2,000 square feet, which really isn't that

  > big.

 >>

Correct, Tenorlove. 2,000 sq ft is larger than the average house.

Bill H

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Re: [CTRL] WT: Library living quarters for Clinton questioned

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  space would cover "2,000 square feet, which really isn't that> 
  big.Excuse me???This is more than TWICE the living space I 
  have, and there are twice asmany of us to live in it. I expect many of you 
  are in the samesituation. And I know people in my own neighborhood who 
  have even lessspace per person.Tenorlovesick of whiny rich 
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Re: [CTRL] WT: Library living quarters for Clinton questioned

[Tenorlove]

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Mr. Rutherford said the living
> space would cover "2,000 square feet, which really isn't that
> big.

Excuse me???
This is more than TWICE the living space I have, and there are twice as
many of us to live in it. I expect many of you are in the same
situation. And I know people in my own neighborhood who have even less
space per person.

Tenorlove
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[CTRL] WT: Library living quarters for Clinton questioned

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March 12, 2001

Library living quarters for Clinton questioned

By Joyce Howard Price
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

 Bill and Hillary Clinton have two houses ‹ one in Chappaqua,
N.Y., and the other on Whitehaven Street NW in Washington, but
some of their friends in Arkansas think they need another one in
Little Rock.

 The apartment would be built into the $125 million Clinton
Presidential Library, which the former president wants to build
in a rundown warehouse district called Murky Bottoms, along the
Arkansas River.

 "I think it would be very appropriate to have living
accommodations in the library," former Sen. David Pryor, a
director of the foundation raising money to build the library,
said in a telephone interview.

 But not everyone in Little Rock agrees, and particularly not
Eugene Pfeifer III, a Little Rock landowner and real estate
developer who owns some of the property the library wants. He has
sued to stop the city from condemning it, challenging the
legality of the apartment plans.

 "I'm resisting condemnation, and one of the issues is that
the city can't condemn my land to provide a residence for
someone," Mr. Pfeifer said in a telephone interview. The city
government, which agreed to buy the land, proposed a bond issue
to improve the city parks and only after the bonds were approved
in a referendum said the library qualifies as a "park" and thus
parks money could pay for the land."

 American Spectator magazine last week reported on its
Internet site that some board members of the Clinton library
foundation think the apartment should be removed from the
library's design.

 The report, attributed to "an associate of library
foundation director Skip Rutherford," said the board members "are
so upset about the ongoing pardon scandal ‹ which has drawn
attention to their activities ‹ that they are looking for ways to
give Bill Clinton a little payback. They just think it's over the
top, and that it would become the permanent symbol of the
Clintons' more craven instincts."

 Asked about the report, Mr. Rutherford said, "I haven't
heard anything about it." He said he had not heard complaints
about the apartment from any library foundation board members.

 The directors of the foundation are close friends of the
Clintons, including Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic
National Committee; Ann Jordan, wife of Vernon Jordan, the
Washington lawyer who represented Monica Lewinsky; and Cheryl
Mills, a lawyer who represented Mr. Clinton during the
impeachment proceedings.

 American Spectator quoted its source as saying that fund
raising for the Clinton library has "dwindled to almost nothing"
because of investigations underway into the Clinton pardons.

 "It's really too early to tell," Mr. Rutherford said, and
declined, as he has in the past, to disclose how much has been
raised for the riverfront library.

 Mr. Pryor, a Democrat who is the director of the Institute
of Politics at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard
University, says he thinks fund raising has not been hurt by the
pardon scandals. "But I really can't speak to that with any
authority."

 Tom Carpenter, Little Rock city attorney, said "some
eyebrows were raised" by a story in the daily Arkansas
Democrat-Gazette that the library would include a
"5,000-square-foot penthouse for the Clinton family." He said not
all of that would be living space. Mr. Rutherford said the living
space would cover "2,000 square feet, which really isn't that
big. The other 3,000 square feet of the [penthouse] executive
suite will be for office space, a conference room and security."

 An assistant to Mr. Rutherford cited precedent for providing
living space in presidential libraries. He said both the George
Bush library on the campus of Texas A&M University in College
Station, Texas, and the Jimmy Carter library in Atlanta have such
apartments.

 Officials at the Bush library were unable to describe the
size of the Bush apartment, and officials at the Carter library
said they would not divulge the information. Both libraries are
maintained at public expense.

 Advocates of an apartment for the Clintons also cite the
Lyndon Baines Johnson library in Austin as one with living
quarters for members of the Johnson family. Sandy Cohen, a
spokesman for that library, disputes that. There are dining and
reception areas in the 1,700-square foot suite, he says, but no
beds.

 Gene Pfeifer says there are "two distinct camps" in Little
Rock on whether there should even be a Clinton library there.
"One side says this will mean spending $200 million in our
community, which obviously will have a wonderful impact on the
economy. They point out that Bill Clinton will be holding
seminars at the library, where he will be hosting other world
leaders. But there also are a lot of people in Little Rock who
are sick of Clinton and don