Re: [CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-27 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/27/99 7:25:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with
>  child abuse in the first place!  I do not think that would fall under the
>  jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring.
>  Amelia
>

Of course you are correct.  It was merely further last minute attempts by the
government to throw suspicion off of them and onto the Davidians.  There
would be absolutely no justification for the BATF to be involved in cases of
child molestation, etc.  It was a propaganda device solely to throw the
accusing finger back pointing at the "nefarious" BD's, and off of the saintly
BATF who were just there "to save the children", after all.

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Re: [CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-27 Thread Amelia K Edgeman

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And since when would these agencies be the proper ones to be dealing with
child abuse in the first place!  I do not think that would fall under the
jurisdiction of BATF and Delta Force even IF it had been occurring.
Amelia

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 8:21 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Waco post


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >From alt.conspiracy, WACO and the Child abuse allegations.
> Enjoy, or not.
>
>
> Subject: Post of FINAL evidence against WACO Child Abuse, End of Premise
> From: "James Perkins"  HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 24 September 1999 02:01 PM EDT
> Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Subject: No more crap about child abuse - End of argument for Fed
supporters
> Date: 1999/09/19
> Author: James Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >From the St. Louis "Post Dispatch"
> Full article at:
> 
HREF="http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35
AD
>
A862">http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35
AD
> A862
> 567F1003C8CD7?OpenDocument
>
> "The nation already knows that there was some poor judgment. Officials of
> the FBI and Justice Department have acknowledged as much. The FBI has
> admitted that some of its tactics, like broadcasting loud noises, were
> ill-conceived. It has admitted that it did not have new evidence of child
> abuse at the time it used child-abuse allegations to persuade Attorney
> General Janet Reno to authorize the assault on the compound. And the FBI
has
> belatedly admitted that it fired pyrotechnic tear gas at a bunker on the
> morning of the assault, even though Reno had denied for years that
flammable
> tear gas was used."
>
> So, the next time anyone (especially familyvalues) wants to throw this
> argument up as a shield for the Fed, "Just Say NO".
>
> James Perkins
>
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[CTRL] Waco post

1999-09-24 Thread TenebrousT

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>From alt.conspiracy, WACO and the Child abuse allegations.
Enjoy, or not.


Subject: Post of FINAL evidence against WACO Child Abuse, End of Premise
From: "James Perkins" mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 24 September 1999 02:01 PM EDT
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: No more crap about child abuse - End of argument for Fed supporters
Date: 1999/09/19
Author: James Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>From the St. Louis "Post Dispatch"
Full article at:
http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35AD
A862">http://www.post-dispatch.com/postnet/stories.nsf/ByDocID/2076417F10B35AD
A862
567F1003C8CD7?OpenDocument

"The nation already knows that there was some poor judgment. Officials of
the FBI and Justice Department have acknowledged as much. The FBI has
admitted that some of its tactics, like broadcasting loud noises, were
ill-conceived. It has admitted that it did not have new evidence of child
abuse at the time it used child-abuse allegations to persuade Attorney
General Janet Reno to authorize the assault on the compound. And the FBI has
belatedly admitted that it fired pyrotechnic tear gas at a bunker on the
morning of the assault, even though Reno had denied for years that flammable
tear gas was used."

So, the next time anyone (especially familyvalues) wants to throw this
argument up as a shield for the Fed, "Just Say NO".

James Perkins

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