Re: [CTRL] Western Fires Continue to Blaze

2001-08-20 Thread Tenorlove

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 ``For once, we got a fire along a road where we can drive a fire
 engine in
 and squirt water on it,'' Thayer said.

This is what happens as a result of Klintoon's land-grabbing policies,
which created vast roadless areas in the Western forests.

I wonder if these fires were deliberately set in order to drive the
people away to create more wilderness?

Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] Western Fires Continue to Blaze

2001-08-20 Thread thew

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Wildfires are important
Forests NEED fires - they clear out dead wood, and open up the forest to
sunlight, for new growth. They also spread ash which fertilizes the soil.
Some trees need fire to crack open their seed pods.

to stop fires, is to kill forests.
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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Western Fires Continue to Blaze

 -Caveat Lector-

 ``For once, we got a fire along a road where we can drive a fire
 engine in
 and squirt water on it,'' Thayer said.

 This is what happens as a result of Klintoon's land-grabbing policies,
 which created vast roadless areas in the Western forests.

 I wonder if these fires were deliberately set in order to drive the
 people away to create more wilderness?

 Tenorlove

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 turns on the set, I go into the other room
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Re: [CTRL] Western Fires Continue to Blaze

2001-08-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Think about this Tenorlove - some of othe trees burned in fires last
year were over 200 years old.

Then consider Iran in drought - and Israel in advance prepared to pipe
in water from Turkey?

See how these people operate but this drought in Iran could only be
caused by Weather War against the innocents.

California has felt this but I say it was in 1986 I discovered, the
reason the scientists, were einvolved in such a program - they were
worried about hurricanes in Florida and this is why one in particular
hovered and was crossed over Cuba four times?   Got to  Save Naples from
weather holocaust and Palm Springs?

Hey as Joshua would say - what about the trailer trash - who cares?

Note in mid west many children and people lost all of their possessions
and the trailer camps were always hit the hardest.

Weather War is now a state of the art weapon.but it is a two edged
sword and as they say it cuts both ways.

Those planned water lines from Turkey to Israel for the Israeli's
swimming pools can be cut off and big snake - into 13 different places.

Note Siberia is still freezing and if California and Florida as
prophesied will fall into the drink - warning to friends get the hell
out now.

For even the world shakers and earth movers, might have taken on a
little more than for which they bargained?

Those that sow the clouds, always reap the whirlwinds.

Saba

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[CTRL] Western Fires Continue to Blaze

2001-08-19 Thread Bill Richer

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Saturday August 18 6:42 PM ET

Western Fires Continue to Blaze
By LINDA ASHTON, Associated Press Writer

LEAVENWORTH, Wash. (AP) - The threat of gusty wind fanned fears of wildfire
Saturday in this Cascade mountain tourist town, where flames have already
gobbled more than 5,000 acres and could threaten nearly 2,000 homes and
businesses.

It was just one of eight major fires in drought-stricken Washington state,
where more than 90,000 acres had been burned across the state's arid east
side in the past week.

Fire engines from around the state converged on the community to protect it
from the so-called Icicle complex of more than 20 fires.

``This is the number one priority fire in the region because of all the
houses,'' said fire information officer Greg Thayer with the Wenatchee
National Forest.

Across the West, 26,000 firefighters were at work Saturday battling 30 major
fires that had blackened 504,044 acres, said the National Interagency Fire
Center in Boise. No serious injuries have been reported so far. Last month,
four Eastern Washington firefighters were killed in a different round of
blazes.

Oregon had 12 major wildfires, two of them new, on 232,000 acres. Homes were
threatened in Monument, Ukiah and Dale.

In northern Nevada, weary firefighters faced a new fire that had burned
13,000 acres by Saturday morning.

Fifty homes had been evacuated in Leavenworth since the middle of the week,
about 30 of them Friday night, when the wind-driven fires raced across an
additional 1,000 to 1,500 acres. Residents of 200 homes were warned that they
might have to leave.

The flames had covered more than 5,000 acres by Saturday, Thayer said.

No homes had been destroyed but fire crews were putting out small fires
around five houses on Eight Mile Road.

``For once, we got a fire along a road where we can drive a fire engine in
and squirt water on it,'' Thayer said.

Three of the five homes had been wet down and brush had been cleared near
them, but no such care was taken with the other two. ``It's a miracle that
they're there,'' Thayer said.

Weather conditions improved somewhat Saturday, with temperatures dropping
from the 90s to the 80s and humidity increasing. Wind blowing at 15 to 20 mph
was forecast, with gusts up to 35 mph.

``Near Leavenworth the winds should be a little weaker than that,'' said
National Weather Service forecaster Jon Fox. However, he cautioned that
``even 10- to 20-mile winds can spread fire pretty rapidly.''

Rain and temperatures in the 70s were expected Tuesday, which will ``help
squash those things,'' Fox said.

The threat didn't slow down Loren Haskins of Northfield, Minn., who continued
helping his daughter and son-in-law build a new home in Leavenworth even
though residents of their area had been told to be prepared for evacuation.

``We're very optimistic. We just keep building,'' he said. ``If it's going to
burn down, it will just be a little more or a little less.''

Fire trucks were stationed outside the HomeFires Bakery just south of town.

``I'm not nervous enough to run away, but I'm nervous enough to be concerned
and grateful for the firefighters,'' said Theresa D-Litzenberger, who has
operated the bakery with husband Richard for 16 years.

``We're just trying to bake bread and carry on,'' Richard D-Litzenberger
said.

They had to evacuate in 1994, Washington's last bad fire season, and were
prepared to leave again quickly with their business records and their cat and
dog.

``The thing is, it happened seven years ago so it doesn't seem as it might to
others,'' he said. ``We're not panicked.''

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