-Caveat Lector- The following debates the merits and alleged lack thereof of following a lead regarding the events of September 11, 2001 that has been provided by the Bush administration, THE NINETEEN ARAB HIJACKERS theory.
Quoting Nikos Levis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >I am not following a lead provided by George Bush Jr. > > > >If you wish to, have at it. > > If you can't see this point in the first place it's not a big debate so > I'll try it once more and keep it short (for me). > > The official legend is not George Bush's. (The only stories he ever > produced were "Evildoers hate our freedoms"; "Sept. 11 happened - gotta > git Saddam"; and "I saw the first crash on TV, uuuuh not.") Yeah, I have always said that Buffet was closer to, if not AT the heart of playcalling that day. I mean, the terrorists is supposed to call and take credit and then issue some orders right? So who did he go see immediately but Warren Buffet. Buffet's Baby: Mitre Corporation http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl/message/33863 It is the > product of mostly honest investigators and journalists who first accept > the premises of Qaeda-did-it (since that's the only "thinkable" or > "allowable" alternative) and who then fit available evidence to it, > ignoring anything that doesn't fit as coincidence. Maybe so. Still, I am sure these journalists aren't saying they were so close to the operation that they know who did it (reporters and bin Laden in the control room together ??) so much as they are saying that THEY are taking their information from states sources, or state infiltrated, e.g. Fox News (the state is just a big laundering macine for the corporations anyway). If they were getting their information, however, directly from the terrorists, then this eliminates the question that has been asked for months, namely why was no credit ever TAKEN. If you have an article for this I would love to read it. Am I the only one that has noticed that the media has taken their cues from largely the Bush administration anyway? I mean, in my browsings I have seen at least fifty different articles, in highly read publications, the complaint that the media is doing the dance of Gee-Dub and I think that most investigators of 9-11 would agree. Otherwise, GW would be in jail already or at least facing impeachment. What news stations do you listen to? What TV stations? > > I note that you are willing to consider the supposed video footage of the > Pentagon attack, although it a) was released by someone at the Pentagon > itself, b) is time-stamped Sept. 12, 2001, c) consists only of five > stills that show evidence of manipulation (shadows with borders, > explosion engulfs a control tower that it could not have possibly > reached, etc.), d) was released in direct response to the sudden > popularity of "Hunt the Boeing." So you're taking your lead from what the > Pentagon is willing to release? Given the suppression of other videos and > photos known to exist, I would automatically discount these five stills, > even more so than the words of Bush. I note that you missed my statement, on the 911truthalliance list, that the date of September 12 on the film that is alleged to be film of the Pentagon crash on SEPTEMBER 11 is indicative of one of two things: either a) the date was changed to discredit the IMAGE, which would make the image probably real or b) the image was invented, something totally unnecessary if a BOEING 757 hit the Pentagon. I asked the list for feed back on this matter and got none actually. I would also like to note that I am not taking my lead from these images and I have NEVER stated such. I would be mightily impressed if ANYONE were to produced undoctored statements to the contrary, written by myself, with their technical skills of course. I took my lead from someone in the intelligence community and not until two years later was I able to come to a conclusion as to whether or not he actually worked intelligence. It was when I started looking at Operation Two Towers through Mitre sunglasses. The leads that have popped up are comparable to the leads seen in other veins of 9-11 investigation when one considers that the volume of what is available on the, say, NINETEEN ARAB HIJACKERS theory has been contributed to by thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of researchers. Little old me has come up with an alternative explanation that is rather a sizeable body of research now. It would take months to sort through all of what I have researched so you see that it is compendious. I could use help exploring some connections to NIMA and Booz, Allen, & Hamilton but, alas, everyone that is doing such research is, apparently, not communicating with me. I have to educate nearly everyone that contacts me on the Global Hawk "theory" and this indicates that I am at the head of research in this vein of 9-11 investigations, largely. However, plenty of people are willing attack me (not caring who foams over my mentioning of it) as is indicated by the fact that someone has actually accused me of being CIA on another list today. The funny thing is that this person understands advertising and such manipulation as is evident by his having spoken of a secret (that he's sharing online?) from "extremely covert" sources spoke in English geared to the average five year old, i.e. they were targetting the lowest common denominator, the stupid. I had to laugh. I mean, is this bearer of the scars of teargas and Operation Mind Fuck (the gubment's psy-op war on activists) actually a CIA and doesn't know it? If I am CIA then where in the hell is my paycheck? Shit, I would be able to post from the privacy of my own home if that was the case. 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