Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] THIS is Wild: CIA Says Pres a Security Risk]

1999-03-12 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 3/11/99 3:57:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   TS-SI clearance.  He had many more partners than he led them to believe.

 
  What's that got to do with being a security risk?  You mean when George
Bush
  was having his affair with Ms. Fitzgerald, his clearance should have been
  lifted?  Prudy
 
 Spooks are notoriously paranoid about "illicit" sexual relationships --
 especially homosexual ones, but any sexual liaison outside marriage is
 traditionally viewed with suspicion as a possible cause for blackmail. This
 tends, of course, to apply more at lower organizational levels than among the
 leadership, who always devise special rules for themselves. Thus J. Edgar
 Hoover could compile files on the sexual peccadilloes of numerous
politicians,
 while simultaneously engaging in bizarre homosexual behavior including
 cross-dressing... Please note: I'm not putting down cross-dressing and other
 gay lifestyles as such. My point is simply that when Hoover practiced them,
he
 was being a monumental hypocrite. That kind of hypocrisy is epidemic in the
 intelligence community. IMHO, Clinton's tawdry and rather pedestrian sex life
 is merely a convenient excuse for them to withhold information in direct
 violation of their oaths of office. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, indeed?
The
 answer is, no one. 

I wish you weren't right.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] THIS is Wild: CIA Says Pres a Security Risk]

1999-03-11 Thread Robert Tatman

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 In a message dated 3/11/99 2:10:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:

 
  I had a friend dropped from Military Intel while still in language school.
 The
  DIS had found out how promiscuous in civilian life he was and denied him
his
  TS-SI clearance.  He had many more partners than he led them to believe. 

 What's that got to do with being a security risk?  You mean when George Bush
 was having his affair with Ms. Fitzgerald, his clearance should have been
 lifted?  Prudy

Spooks are notoriously paranoid about "illicit" sexual relationships --
especially homosexual ones, but any sexual liaison outside marriage is
traditionally viewed with suspicion as a possible cause for blackmail. This
tends, of course, to apply more at lower organizational levels than among the
leadership, who always devise special rules for themselves. Thus J. Edgar
Hoover could compile files on the sexual peccadilloes of numerous politicians,
while simultaneously engaging in bizarre homosexual behavior including
cross-dressing... Please note: I'm not putting down cross-dressing and other
gay lifestyles as such. My point is simply that when Hoover practiced them, he
was being a monumental hypocrite. That kind of hypocrisy is epidemic in the
intelligence community. IMHO, Clinton's tawdry and rather pedestrian sex life
is merely a convenient excuse for them to withhold information in direct
violation of their oaths of office. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, indeed? The
answer is, no one.

Bob

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