Re: [CTRL] [UFOTruth] Bush admits Cheney knows about UFOs
Some good observations vis a vis the UFO business. Of course, it should be assumed that lying would be the only response to expect, whether from Bush Sr. or Jr., and certainly from a National Security sort as Dick Cheney. This issue, when it is addressed at all by politicians only goes s far as titillation and nothing more. As much as anyone is willing to say succeeds at saying nothing at all. On Tue, 01 August 2000, DIG alfred webre wrote: Hi All - I found this correspondence by Dr. Richard Boylan, and its quoting of Dick Cheney very interesting. My own view, for the record, is that it is as probable as not, that Cheney is quoting the "non-attibutable" line. That is, he is functionally lying. I base this on direct experience with DOD decision makers and Stanford Research Institute decision makers on the UFO and ET issue, where "dissimulation" was an accepted culture in the 1970s and 80s. This post illustrates why I am not backing off on Cheney and Bush, Sr. They have taken national security oaths to lie. The more probable model is that the USA national security state, and the Echelon countries are in an information war to deflect an extraterrestrial initiative. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC In a message dated 00-08-01 00:57:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [UFOTruth] Bush admits Cheney knows about UFOs Date: 00-08-01 00:57:31 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D.) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UFOTruth) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (UFOTruth) CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DrRichBoylanReports) UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com From: Tony Craddock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:11 PM Subject: Fwd: G.W.Bush's UFO Statement on CNN (Confirmation) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:30 GMT For what its worth, confirmation of George W. Bush's UFO statement can be taken directly from the CNN Transcripts page for July 29, 2000. The direct link is http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/29/smn.01.html and the news item is entitled ""Bush-Cheney Take Campaign on the Road; Gore Takes a Vacation." the pertinent section of the transcript reads as follows: JONATHAN KARL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Cheney played low key loyalist. Along the way, someone thought Cheney's impressive resume would help Bush tell the truth about UFOs. UNIDENTIFIED CITIZEN: Half the public believes that they are real. Would you finally tell the truth about UFOs. GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH,(R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Sure, I will. This man knows. He was Secretary of Defense and was a great one. KARL: And low key or not, Cheney drew an enthusiastic response from the Republican faithful. (on camera): Cheney's first campaign foray outside his home state was a brief one. He doesn't have another campaign speech scheduled until Wednesday, when he addresses the Republican National Convention. Jonathan Karl, CNN Joplin, Missouri. (END VIDEOTAPE) LEON HARRIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Cheney's no dummy. He was smooth enough to stay away from the UFO question, obviously. Jonathan Karl is on the road with the candidates. He joins us now by telephone from Joplin, Missouri . . . ++ Dr. Richard Boylan's comments: From a reliable source I had learned several years ago that after Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney had completed his term of service, he acknowledged privately to several people that "we should have dealt with the UFO Question [public disclosure] on our watch [President George H.W. Bush's term], but frankly we didn't have the guts." Now it appears that President Bush's son and current Presidential Candidate George W. Bush, is not afraid of the UFO question, and is quite prepared to fob it off onto his Vice-President nominee, the previously-reluctant Dick Cheney. Apparently George W. is not going to dodge the question in his Administration. Richard Boylan, Ph.D. ** Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC, Post Office Box 22310, Sacramento, California 95822, United States of America. Phone: (916) 422-7479 (PDT) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEBSITE: http://www.jps.net/drboylan/ You are invited to join his UFOTruth internet reports-and-communications list; moderated by Dr. Boylan: (subscribe at: http://UFOTruth.listbot.com/ ); or his DrRichBoylanReports (reports-only) list at: http://DrRichBoylanReports.listbot.com/ --- End of forwarded message --- __ EcoNews Service.com - Alternative News: Ecology, Consciousness Universe Politics. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.ecologynews.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK
Re: [CTRL] [UFOTruth] Bush admits Cheney knows about UFOs
In a message dated 00-08-02 13:17:47 EDT, you write: STEVE - 1. The more probable model is that the USA national security state, and the Echelon countries are in an information war to deflect an extraterrestrial initiative. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC STV:--- could you please elaborate on your thought? Thanks ALW: Many thanks. I will give you the long-winded answer ;-) You can find it at: http://www.universebooks.com/exopolitics.html 2."we should have dealt with the UFO Question [public disclosure] on our watch [President George H.W. Bush's term], but frankly we didn't have the guts." STV:--- The question is what does he mean by "dealt with"? Come clean, tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Or demonize the ET and declare war? Or what other top level brilliance? Maybe its good that they "didnt have the guts". ALW: I beleive the more probable model is that the whole "we should have dealt with" rhetoric may be "plausible deniability" whose function is to cover up an information war by the Echelon national security state against an initiative by Universe society. See above. Thanks! Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [UFOTruth] Bush admits Cheney knows about UFOs
Hi All - I found this correspondence by Dr. Richard Boylan, and its quoting of Dick Cheney very interesting. My own view, for the record, is that it is as probable as not, that Cheney is quoting the "non-attibutable" line. That is, he is functionally lying. I base this on direct experience with DOD decision makers and Stanford Research Institute decision makers on the UFO and ET issue, where "dissimulation" was an accepted culture in the 1970s and 80s. This post illustrates why I am not backing off on Cheney and Bush, Sr. They have taken national security oaths to lie. The more probable model is that the USA national security state, and the Echelon countries are in an information war to deflect an extraterrestrial initiative. Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC In a message dated 00-08-01 00:57:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: [UFOTruth] Bush admits Cheney knows about UFOs Date: 00-08-01 00:57:31 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard J. Boylan, Ph.D.) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UFOTruth) To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (UFOTruth) CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DrRichBoylanReports) UFOTruth - http://UFOTruth.listbot.com From: Tony Craddock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 11:11 PM Subject: Fwd: G.W.Bush's UFO Statement on CNN (Confirmation) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:05:30 GMT For what its worth, confirmation of George W. Bush's UFO statement can be taken directly from the CNN Transcripts page for July 29, 2000. The direct link is http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/29/smn.01.html and the news item is entitled ""Bush-Cheney Take Campaign on the Road; Gore Takes a Vacation." the pertinent section of the transcript reads as follows: JONATHAN KARL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Cheney played low key loyalist. Along the way, someone thought Cheney's impressive resume would help Bush tell the truth about UFOs. UNIDENTIFIED CITIZEN: Half the public believes that they are real. Would you finally tell the truth about UFOs. GOV. GEORGE W. BUSH,(R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Sure, I will. This man knows. He was Secretary of Defense and was a great one. KARL: And low key or not, Cheney drew an enthusiastic response from the Republican faithful. (on camera): Cheney's first campaign foray outside his home state was a brief one. He doesn't have another campaign speech scheduled until Wednesday, when he addresses the Republican National Convention. Jonathan Karl, CNN Joplin, Missouri. (END VIDEOTAPE) LEON HARRIS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Cheney's no dummy. He was smooth enough to stay away from the UFO question, obviously. Jonathan Karl is on the road with the candidates. He joins us now by telephone from Joplin, Missouri . . . ++ Dr. Richard Boylan's comments: From a reliable source I had learned several years ago that after Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney had completed his term of service, he acknowledged privately to several people that "we should have dealt with the UFO Question [public disclosure] on our watch [President George H.W. Bush's term], but frankly we didn't have the guts." Now it appears that President Bush's son and current Presidential Candidate George W. Bush, is not afraid of the UFO question, and is quite prepared to fob it off onto his Vice-President nominee, the previously-reluctant Dick Cheney. Apparently George W. is not going to dodge the question in his Administration. Richard Boylan, Ph.D. ** Richard Boylan, Ph.D., LLC, Post Office Box 22310, Sacramento, California 95822, United States of America. Phone: (916) 422-7479 (PDT) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEBSITE: http://www.jps.net/drboylan/ You are invited to join his UFOTruth internet reports-and-communications list; moderated by Dr. Boylan: (subscribe at: http://UFOTruth.listbot.com/ ); or his DrRichBoylanReports (reports-only) list at: http://DrRichBoylanReports.listbot.com/ --- End of forwarded message --- __ EcoNews Service.com - Alternative News: Ecology, Consciousness Universe Politics. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.ecologynews.com/ CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/ /XMP A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
