Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-10 11:22:39 EST, you write: Is there ANY crime Clinton has not yet been accused of? Didn't Fred Thompson, R-Tn, chair a committee that examined these allegations? We do have an "innocent until proven guilty" standard..remember that little ol' thing? As I understand it, Dick Thornburgh frustrated Walsh's investigation into the arms for hostages deal by classifying material to keep it out of Walsh's hands. I wasn't on this list during the Walsh investigation (if it even existed then) but I do hope you fine people were squealing and squawking this loudly then! This constant squealing of alarm about all the things Clinton is alleged to have done reminds me of a saying I came across on the internet once .(paraphrased)..."If a reliable source puts forth wild allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth substantiated allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth wild allegations -- watch out!" There are many things I suspect Reagan and Bush got away with. But I would fully expect anyone to challenge me with "Prove it!" if I were to list my suspicions as FACT day after day. So, this is what I have to say to you, "PROVE IT!" Prove it in a court of law! Prove it during in a hearing! Prove it in an impeachment trial! If you can't prove it, stop asserting these allegations as fact. Or better yet, just shaddup already! Samantha Have you been in a coma for the last 6 years? "Prove it" "prove it" has become the mantra of the mindless few who still support Clinton, or try to pass themselves off as objective witnesses who naively, or because it suits their mindset, believe that Janet Reno and the "Justice" Department/FBI will vigilantly pursue the truth in Clinton's many treasonous acts and or criminality. If you had done a modicum of research into Janet Reno's handling of the Waco slaughter, and particularly the enormous cover-up orchestrated in the Oklahoma City bombing by the Justice Department (the inslaw case is a perfect example of the widespread malfeaseance at the Justice Dept)and the FBI you would know that there is no such thing as an honest investigation ever carried out by Reno or the Justice Dept. Reno has been running interfenence for Clinton since she was appointed Attorney General, and that is exactly why she has that position, and the same go's for Freeh. Do you really believe that he didn't use information gleaned from FBI files about his opponents? Do you really believe Vince Foster committed suicide? What about Ron Brown? What about Chinagate, and the book "The Year of the Rat" which documents Clinton selling weapons technology to the nation which holds the status of having murdered more of it's own citizens than any other regime in history, the Chinese government? What about 50/60+ people dead who either knew Bill or were potential enemy's of his? I know, all coincidence, right? There, there, go back to sleep, it's all just unsubstantiated speculation and coincidence. But there are still the graves of 86 men woman and children of Waco which stand in immutable testimony to Janet Reno's and Bill Clinton's ingrained alienation to even a semblance of human decency. The 169 murdered men woman and children of Oklahoma, if you bother to research it, is absolute proof of their willingness to murder Americans in order to implement new far reaching laws which, in their original form, advocated giving the President the right to designate, arbritrarily, any group or organization as '"Terrorist". Michelle Mary Moore's book spells it out on pages 130-143, in her book "Oklahoma City:Day One". Below is paraphrased from her book; In February 1995 The Omnibus Counter-Terrorism bill had been introduced as S. 390 (later S. 735) in the Senate and as H.R. 896 (later H.R. 2703) in the House of Representatives. Joseph R. Biden and Arlen Specter had introduced the bill in the Senate; Charles E. Schuman and Norman D. Dicks had introduced it in the House of Representatives. These Bill's, which became known as "The Anti-terrorism bill" proposed giving unheard of power to law enforcement and the President - for example, the President can arbritrarily declare any lawful organization as "terrorist" and imprison it's members for up to ten years and the organization cannot appeal the Presidnet's decision. Suspension of posse comitatus, allowing the government to use the military to police civilians and use them in any law enforcement capacity the President deams necessary. Once you are accused of a crime, you are asumed guilty and are ineligible for bail and can be held until trial, however long that may be, without appeal. Both bills repeatedly stated that the President could change any law he wanted at any time, so any activity could become illegal at the Presidents whim. Samantha knows best, the facts are what the FBI/Justice Deparment and Bill Clinton tell us, if they
Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-10 07:13:51 EST, you write: But the Republicans have always been skittish about exposing the dirtiest of Mr Clinton's dirty linen, lest their own (lesser) indiscretions come to light. There is a Washington etiquette in these matters, or put another way: they, too, are "mobbed up". That is why, I believe, they backed away from probing whether Mr Clinton knowingly solicited laundered campaign funds from Chinese military intelligence in exchange for restricted missile technology. Is there ANY crime Clinton has not yet been accused of? Didn't Fred Thompson, R-Tn, chair a committee that examined these allegations? We do have an "innocent until proven guilty" standard..remember that little ol' thing? As I understand it, Dick Thornburgh frustrated Walsh's investigation into the arms for hostages deal by classifying material to keep it out of Walsh's hands. I wasn't on this list during the Walsh investigation (if it even existed then) but I do hope you fine people were squealing and squawking this loudly then! This constant squealing of alarm about all the things Clinton is alleged to have done reminds me of a saying I came across on the internet once .(paraphrased)..."If a reliable source puts forth wild allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth substantiated allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth wild allegations -- watch out!" There are many things I suspect Reagan and Bush got away with. But I would fully expect anyone to challenge me with "Prove it!" if I were to list my suspicions as FACT day after day. So, this is what I have to say to you, "PROVE IT!" Prove it in a court of law! Prove it during in a hearing! Prove it in an impeachment trial! If you can't prove it, stop asserting these allegations as fact. Or better yet, just shaddup already! Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: AEP: Republicans let Clinton off the hook
-Caveat Lector- To Samantha: For some reason it doesn't make it to a court of law, potential witnesses seem to kill themselves, or die in homicides, before that can occur.Question: How many people must end up dead before you catch on? Or are you deliberately obtuse?? Just wondering Barley Samatha 'Smith' wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-02-10 07:13:51 EST, you write: But the Republicans have always been skittish about exposing the dirtiest of Mr Clinton's dirty linen, lest their own (lesser) indiscretions come to light. There is a Washington etiquette in these matters, or put another way: they, too, are "mobbed up". That is why, I believe, they backed away from probing whether Mr Clinton knowingly solicited laundered campaign funds from Chinese military intelligence in exchange for restricted missile technology. Is there ANY crime Clinton has not yet been accused of? Didn't Fred Thompson, R-Tn, chair a committee that examined these allegations? We do have an "innocent until proven guilty" standard..remember that little ol' thing? As I understand it, Dick Thornburgh frustrated Walsh's investigation into the arms for hostages deal by classifying material to keep it out of Walsh's hands. I wasn't on this list during the Walsh investigation (if it even existed then) but I do hope you fine people were squealing and squawking this loudly then! This constant squealing of alarm about all the things Clinton is alleged to have done reminds me of a saying I came across on the internet once .(paraphrased)..."If a reliable source puts forth wild allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth substantiated allegations, one may pause to listen. If a wild source puts forth wild allegations -- watch out!" There are many things I suspect Reagan and Bush got away with. But I would fully expect anyone to challenge me with "Prove it!" if I were to list my suspicions as FACT day after day. So, this is what I have to say to you, "PROVE IT!" Prove it in a court of law! Prove it during in a hearing! Prove it in an impeachment trial! If you can't prove it, stop asserting these allegations as fact. Or better yet, just shaddup already! Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
