Re: [CTRL] Proud to be an American ?

1999-07-27 Thread Bill

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We carry the burden of four generations of ignorance,
complacency, and whining new dealers.

Robert Paul wrote:

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 Tim wrote:

 "Thank You "Workers of Iniquity"!
 Proud to be an American? I don't think so,"

 It's sad, Tim, many on this List will have no idea what you're talking
 about. They can see a Conspiracy but not their responsibility for the
 loss of their Liberty.

 Robert Paul.
 Ohio state

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Re: [CTRL] Proud to be an American?

1999-01-09 Thread J. Dolan

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On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:17:25 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand
by the
president or any public official, save exactly to the degree that he
himself
stands by the country" -Theodore Roosevelt

Great Quote! I'll add that to my list. Too bad I just did a report on
Teddy Roosevelt, that would have been a great addition to my report.

I'll post it on my friend's BBS...

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Re: [CTRL] Proud to be an American?

1999-01-07 Thread Harry Hendrickson

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I also enjoyed the following.

THE PARADOX OF OUR AGE

We have taller buildings, but shorter tempers;
wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints;
we spend more, but have less;
we buy more, but enjoy it less.

We have bigger houses and smaller families;
more conveniences, but less time;
we have more degrees, but less common sense;
more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts,
but more problems; more medicine, but less wellness.

We spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive
too fast, get too angry too quickly, stay up too
late, get up too tired, read too seldom, watch TV
too much, and pray too seldom.

We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.
We talk too much, love too seldom and lie too often.
We've learned how to make a living, but not a life;
we've added years to life, not life to years.
We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have
trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor.

We've conquered outer space, but not inner space;
we've done larger things, but not better things;
we've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul;
we've split the atom, but not our prejudice;
we write more, but learn less;
plan more, but accomplish less.

We've learned to rush, but not to wait; we have
higher incomes; but lower morals; more food but
less appeasement; more acquaintances, but fewer
friends; more effort but less success.

We build more computers to hold more information,
to produce more copies than ever, but have less
communication; we've become long on quantity, but
short on quality.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion;
tall men and short character;
steep profits and shallow relationships.
These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare;
more leisure and less fun; more kinds of food, but less nutrition.

These are days of two incomes, but more divorce;
of fancier houses, but broken homes.
These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers,
throwaway morality, one-night stands, and pills
that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill.
It is a time when there is much in the show window,
and nothing in the stockroom

Author unknown

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 From: Gavin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [CTRL] Proud to be an American?
 Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 1:49 AM

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 fwd. Gavin.

  Save for a rainy day.  One of the better reads to come along in a
while.
 ICE
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James C DeArman)
  Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:02:04 EST
  
  Greetings gentlemen,
  
  I received a call last evening from an editor of a
  patriot publication and he reminded me of an item
  I wrote a couple of months ago.  He said I should
  do more writing.  I dunno.
  
  Anyway here it is for pass on including address:
  *
  "Proud to be an American ?"
  
 I used to be proud that I lived in the world's first
  constitutional republic,
  Now I am told it is a "democracy", the final step before a
dictatorship.
 I used to be proud that this nation was an example of right for
  all to follow,
  Now I am ashamed to call myself an American because of our decline into
  wrong.
 I used to be proud that we had a free nation of law, under GOD,
  Now we are a nation of "public policy", under bankruptcy to
international
  bankers.
 I used to be proud that I was born free and lived in Michigan
  state, a geographical area,
  Now I am told it is a corporate "State of Michigan", and I am subject
to
  its statutes, codes and laws.
 I used to be proud that the citizenry knew their rights and
where
  they came from,
  Now most believe that they only have privileges granted them by the all
  powerful corporate state.
 I used to be proud when I knew juries and grand juries stood
  against bad laws and judges,
  Now they are nothing more than a prosecutorial tool of the prosecutors
  and judges.
 I used to be proud of the education standards of our schools and
  university's,
  Now there are courses taught like 28 ways to shake hands and advanced
  basket weaving.
 I used to be proud of my honorable military service in time of
  war,
  Now I know the people were, and are, constantly lied to about the
causes
  and prisoners of that war.
 I used to be proud when I saw a person in most any uniform on
our
  streets,
  Now I fear for my safety because that person does not have me or my
  nation's security as his goal.
 I used to be proud when I saw the "United States" (No yellow
  fringe) flag flying in our state,
  Now I see it as the symbol of a fearsome, manipulated, foreign
  corporation that is anti-American people.
 I used to be proud to assert my right to vote for the statesman
  of choice,
  Now it matters not for whom or even if I vote, as politicians, mostly
  lawyers, are bought and paid for.
 

Re: [CTRL] Proud to be an American?

1999-01-07 Thread Jesse M Dolan

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 "Proud to be an American ?"
 
I used to be proud that I lived in the world's first
 constitutional republic,
 Now I am told it is a "democracy", the final step before a
dictatorship.

Great essay! After doing research on the real history of the US I am
fearful of what will happen to my generation 15-20 and the generations to
come.
I've seen another post called "I'm tired of living in a Police State"
with the same type of thing.
THis is more detailed but both are good views of "real" history. Not the
news the media spin-doctors want us to see. I am still patriotic of this
country but I am scared of a coming draft or forced enlistment into the
Armed Forces for people my age.

I had lots of respect for the Armed Forces (the higher levels) untill
after World War 2. Since then all i've seen or heard is tales of
government or military coverup or premeditated killings of innocent
civilians or killing of armed forces soldiers. I still have respect for
the soldiers but I don't have much respect for the high up military
generals or the "Military Machine" that feeds the fuel to the fire.


Jesse Dolan
Insane Hippie
www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/8954/index.htm

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